# Why Isn't the IRS Investigating the Clinton Foundation?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 28, 2016, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894 "2016-10-28T00:00:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![UberArchetype](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/2bfe46/32.png) [@UberArchetype](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UberArchetype)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/161 "2016-10-31T00:45:17Z")

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How’s my “Fact Check” status doing? 😉

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/162 "2016-10-31T00:49:17Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> . . . Get back in your bucket.

??? What has happened to you, Miller?

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/163 "2016-10-31T00:50:30Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> No one got offended at being called Democrats. But the “Democrat” party was meant as an insult - being a claim that the party was not democratic. Plus it sounds worse.

Agreed. It was invented specifically to be offensive.

You know, Miller used to be a pretty cool guy around here. Something has changed, and I can’t even begin to guess what.

(Also, it was tactically foolish. It led to the highjacking of the thread, as he must have known it would, and it led to an escalation of ugliness here. It was pouring gasoline on a fire. Miller used to have more class than that.)

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/164 "2016-10-31T00:50:55Z")

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> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> How’s my “Fact Check” status doing? 😉

I wouldn’t know. I just assume you’re wrong about everything, and this has served me well so far.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/165 "2016-10-31T01:59:44Z")

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> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> Give it up T&D. Your sophomoric attempt to apply the hand-waving flavor in re-characterizing the scenario is at best, amusing.

I have not “re-characterized” anything. My statements have been accurate depictions of the actual opinion piece to which you linked. On the other hand, you started out with a whiny claim that the IRS needed to investigate the Clinton Foundation, about which no actual evidence of wrongdoing has emerged, and continue to flail about avoiding the fact that you cannot even provide evidence for your own claims.

> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> You should join Mr. Eakers in savoring some of the factual flavor of this one of many not-so-big Clinton email surprise fat throbbing phallus’s presently being stuck up the country’s butt.

When all else fails, talk dirty. I am truly impressed at your inability to carry on a genuine conversation based on facts.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/166 "2016-10-31T02:09:27Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> The Democrat/Democratic distinction is a big one.

It’s not a “big” anything.

All that use of the term “Democrat Party” does for me is confirm that the user is a troll, and a lame one at that.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/167 "2016-10-31T04:32:23Z")

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> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> Since it appears to be lost on some posters, let me just reiterate: The only “fact” in question here is the fact that I am pitting assholes like the majority of responders here, who seem to have an issue with the WSJ piece. There are a couple other less important, less debateable “facts” in the WSJ article itself. Tomndeb made good run at it. There were a few other more-or-less cogent responses.
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> Is that all you got? Random off-topic-inspired insults from Budget Player Cadoofus? :smack:

I am still confused. I did as you asked and read the WSJ piece and I am still confused what law she was supposed to have broken and what evidence there is. Can you explain it like I am five? What should the IRS be looking for when they investigate the Clinton Foundation? Should they investigate just because somebody said so, or is their evidence of wrongdoing? If it was just some guy making statements, can I get the IRS to investigate you if I send tomndebb an email about it? If this whole thing is just based on hearsay, is that enough to stand up in a court of law? If it is not hearsay, but actual testimony, was the testimony given under oath?

I would really like to understand this whole thing; I keep hearing that Hillary needs to go to prison, but if she is guilty of a crime, why has she not been prosecuted? Don’t tell me there is a vast left wing conspiracy, because others have tried that and it was laughable then just as it is laughable now, right?

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/168 "2016-10-31T06:11:24Z")

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> [@UberArchetype](#):
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> You do of course understand how the IRS operates as part the Treasury arm of the executive branch, losing literally hundreds of billions every year in un-collected taxes, right?

So let me get you straight, you are directly saying that the IRS is corrupt, which is why they are auditing Trump, but not investigating the Clinton Foundation? Is that your argument? Let’s be clear here. Please spell it out.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/169 "2016-10-31T13:35:51Z")

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Why isn’t the US government [investigating Trump for his missing emails](http://www.newsweek.com/2016/11/11/donald-trump-companies-destroyed-emails-documents-515120.html)?

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/170 "2016-10-31T13:37:28Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> So let me get you straight, you are directly saying that the IRS is corrupt, which is why they are auditing Trump, but not investigating the Clinton Foundation? Is that your argument? Let’s be clear here. Please spell it out.

Won’t happen. Uberarchshite throws out statements while refusing to own or defend them. He’s a coward and a troll.

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/171 "2016-10-31T13:39:33Z")

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Another good question, if the IRS is corrupt and is being ordered by the executive (eg Obama) to not investigate the Clintons, then tell me this:

In the eight years that GWB was in power, why did the IRS then not investigate the Clintons and the Clinton Foundation? Surely that would have been the perfect time to take them down if as you say the IRS really does what the executive wants in order to achieve political goals? So Uber, got an explanation?

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/172 "2016-10-31T16:24:14Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> It’s not a “big” anything.
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> All that use of the term “Democrat Party” does for me is confirm that the user is a troll, and a lame one at that.

Right, not much different than using ‘Libtard’ or ‘Repubelican’. It’s just silly, and makes the person writing it look silly.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/173 "2016-10-31T16:27:05Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> If the IRS investigated and found nothing amiss, would you then claim that the investigation was rigged?

Yes, obviously! 😃😃😃😃😃

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/174 "2016-10-31T16:35:15Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> It’s not a “big” anything.
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> All that use of the term “Democrat Party” does for me is confirm that the user is a troll, and a lame one at that.

Yep, that’s me. A hard core right wing troll.

You people are idiots.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-the-irs-investigating-the-clinton-foundation/769894/175 "2016-10-31T16:46:53Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Yep, that’s me. A hard core right wing troll.
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> You people are idiots.

I wouldn’t go so far as troll, but “Democrat party” is usually used as an epithet, and I think it’s reasonable to call it out as such. I find it obnoxious and rude to use epithets, and I’ll continue to tell people that when they use them. It doesn’t matter to me if a particular usage of “Redskin” is meant as a term of endearment, or meant to honor someone’s heritage – it has a history as a slur and epithet, and I think it’s rude to use slurs and epithets.

Not a big deal. And not a big deal to call it out.

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