# Why isn't "trekkie" hate speech?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-trekkie-hate-speech/247891>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 31, 2004, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-trekkie-hate-speech/247891 "2004-05-31T05:07:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2004, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-trekkie-hate-speech/247891/41 "2004-05-31T20:16:13Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Does Artoo know about this?

I think he’s a happy cuckold. He’s over in the corner, all quiet-like, secretly taping it. That way, the _next_ time old Ben asks for a video, he’s going to get his money’s worth!

[sub]By the way, does everyone get the sheer brilliance of the “star-crossed” pun? I mean, really, even I need my props every once and a while. 😃 [/sub]

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2004, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-trekkie-hate-speech/247891/42 "2004-05-31T20:48:17Z")

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FBI Agent: Name.

Chekov: My name?

FBI Agent: [sarcastically] No, my name.

Chekov: I do not know your name.

FBI Agent: You play games with me mister, and you’re through.

## Chekov: I am? Can I go now?

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So I eschew you!

And I say “SCREW YOU”!

And I hope you’re blue too!  
\*

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**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2004, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-trekkie-hate-speech/247891/43 "2004-05-31T21:20:32Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> No one ever types Shatner right. It’s not just… the pauses… or the RANDOM emphasis… oncertainwords. You’ve got to KNOW… when to… runthewordstogether… or the whole… EFFECT… isruined!
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> Unfortunetly, there’s no “Stagey, affected hand gesture” smiley to make the impersonation complete.

I love you, Miller.

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2004, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-trekkie-hate-speech/247891/44 "2004-05-31T21:30:23Z")

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> [@Lilairen](#):
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> ## Quote: Originally Posted by blowero The definition of a trekkie is anyone who calls himself a trekker.
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> So where does that leave those of us who call ourselves trekkies?

Error. Faulty. Must…sterilize…

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**Author:** ![Lilairen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lilairen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lilairen)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2004, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-trekkie-hate-speech/247891/45 "2004-05-31T21:35:58Z")

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> [@blowero](#):
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> Error. Faulty. Must…sterilize…

Goodness, I didn’t expect to flush out a Dalek.

Could we get a nicely shrieked “Exterminaaaate!” for the sake of the old days?

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**Author:** ![blowero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/41988e/32.png) [@blowero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blowero)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2004, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-trekkie-hate-speech/247891/46 "2004-05-31T21:53:27Z")

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> [@Lilairen](#):
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> Goodness, I didn’t expect to flush out a Dalek.
> 
> Could we get a nicely shrieked “Exterminaaaate!” for the sake of the old days?

What’s a Dalek? Seems to be a Dr. Who reference when I google it. I was referring to Nomad’s self-destruction in the face of a logical conundrum. Did they steal that bit from another show?

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**Author:** ![Lilairen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lilairen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lilairen)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2004, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-trekkie-hate-speech/247891/47 "2004-05-31T22:22:57Z")

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> [@blowero](#):
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> What’s a Dalek? Seems to be a Dr. Who reference when I google it. I was referring to Nomad’s self-destruction in the face of a logical conundrum. Did they steal that bit from another show?

Daleks are animated nubby upside-down alien trash cans with bits sticking out that wobble around in a sort of frenetic way. They had an unfortunate tendency to invade London, usually with homicidal intent. They could be foiled with occasional logical conundrums or by hanging a jacket over the bit sticking out that had their eye in, and, in early appearances, by going up a flight of stairs. (Dr. Who was critically important to my childhood. Dad and I would sit in the living room with Jiffy-Pop and Dr. Pepper and shout “Cheap special effects!” at the screen. Classic Trek not so much – I’m a young’n – though I did try to give DeForest Kelley a cookie once. Succeeded in giving the cookie to Brent Spiner at the next talk. 😃 )

I think breaking AIs or partially computer-based aliens with logical conundrums is a staple in certain species of pulp. It probably comes from the Ur-Consciousness back in the forties or something.

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2004, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-trekkie-hate-speech/247891/48 "2004-05-31T22:50:52Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Does Artoo know about this?

He´s on it too… have you seen that thingy Artoo uses to hack computers?, well, it serves other purposes which, though obviously don´t involve fluids exchange, are still too gross to explain in detail.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2004, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-trekkie-hate-speech/247891/49 "2004-06-01T01:49:19Z")

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A question, my good medico:

If one wanted a pet, but not bushelfuls, how would one go about spaying a [Tribble](http://community.webshots.com/photo/782975/783008)?

Oh, wait – you’re a doctor, not a xenoveterinarian.

Never mind.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2004, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-trekkie-hate-speech/247891/50 "2004-06-01T02:32:33Z")

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Duh!

Remember what McCoy said: “AS far as I can tell, they’re _born_ pregnant!”

Ask a Trekker and ye shall receive.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2004, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-trekkie-hate-speech/247891/51 "2004-06-01T04:44:00Z")

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“Which seems to be quite a timesaver.”

Trekkies even finish each other’s sentences.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2004, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-trekkie-hate-speech/247891/52 "2004-06-01T04:51:11Z")

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I was doing 5 to 10 for assault with a battery.

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**Author:** ![AngelicGemma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/439d5e/32.png) [@AngelicGemma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelicGemma)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2004, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-trekkie-hate-speech/247891/53 "2004-06-01T11:08:54Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> I must be the only person in the world who liked Janeway best. (Yes, I even liked her voice. Okay, I’ll sit down now…)

Not quite. There’s 2 of us.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2004, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-trekkie-hate-speech/247891/54 "2004-06-01T11:26:02Z")

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[quote=AngelicGemma]  
Not quite. There’s 2 of us[./quote]  
But note that they’ve never been seen in together. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Eleusis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Eleusis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleusis)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2004, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-trekkie-hate-speech/247891/55 "2004-06-01T11:54:17Z")

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> [@Road Rash](#):
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> pokeable nerd

I don’t think I’ve ever done this before, and likely never will again, but…

BAND NAME!!!

… sorry …

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2004, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-trekkie-hate-speech/247891/56 "2004-06-01T16:39:54Z")

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\*A TV watchin’ Trekkie queen she barely understands  
She dreams of Borg assimilation with a certain fascination  
Symbolic of change, but the thing that’s strange  
is that the change has occurred

And now she’s just a pokable nerd, yeah, yeah, yeah  
Man I thought that you’d heard, yeah, yeah, yeah  
The change has occurred, yeah, yeah, yeah  
She’s just a pokable nerd, yeah, yeah, yeah\*

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2004, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-trekkie-hate-speech/247891/57 "2004-06-01T18:39:56Z")

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[Proof positive](http://picard.ytmnd.com/) that Trekkies are Hellbound!

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**Author:** ![AuGratin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e95f7d/32.png) [@AuGratin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuGratin)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2004, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-trekkie-hate-speech/247891/58 "2004-06-01T19:51:26Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> I must be the only person in the world who liked Janeway best. (Yes, I even liked her voice. Okay, I’ll sit down now…)

\<shudder\>

I can’t hear her voice without thinking of Jane Curtin as Prymaat Conehead:

“Bellllldarrrrr! Get the Sense-O-Rings!”

\</shudder\>

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**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2004, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-trekkie-hate-speech/247891/59 "2004-06-01T23:58:24Z")

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I must admit to likeing Janeway, she was less hammy than Picard, and had more balls than Kirk. Still evil Janeway and evil voyager were the best, especially with the Borged away team headed by 7 of 69 (sp?).

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**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2004, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-isnt-trekkie-hate-speech/247891/60 "2004-06-02T04:56:21Z")

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> [@Blalron](#):
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> As a fan of Star Trek, I prefer to call myself a Trekker.
> 
> Yet some hatefull people scoff at me and call me a “trekkie” just because I dress up in Starfleet uniform everyday and have redesigned my living room to look like the bridge of the Enterprise. When I say that the invasion of Iraq violated the Prime Directive because it interfered with the affairs of a culture that wasn’t a threat to us, the only response I get is to be called a stupid “trekkie” who has no idea what the modern day world is like. I’m tired of being mocked because of my beliefs! Why is this hate speech allowed to continue?\*
> 
> \*This thread is a parody of Liberal’s thread: [Why isn’t “fundie” hate speech?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=258817)
> 
> 😃

Dennis?  
Is that you?

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