# Why it is wrong to have sex with your pets. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 9, 2002, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-it-is-wrong-to-have-sex-with-your-pets/108001 "2002-05-09T01:43:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-it-is-wrong-to-have-sex-with-your-pets/108001/61 "2002-05-10T01:09:33Z")
So…um, what if it’s a guy having sex with a female dog, who’s, essentially, the bitch? Is she a menace to society now or what? (I’m generally curious! :)) ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-it-is-wrong-to-have-sex-with-your-pets/108001/62 "2002-05-10T01:22:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Waverly \* > **If I can avoid the event horizon of your density for just a moment longer:** HA! Good one! So Mermaid, why do you think that a dog that has sex with a human will automatically feel dominant over humans? ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-it-is-wrong-to-have-sex-with-your-pets/108001/63 "2002-05-10T01:48:10Z")
I’ve been surprised by Ashtar post. It never occured to me that a zoophile could feel love for his pets. I always assumed it was all about sex. One learn something everyday… That said I’m not convinced by the OP argument. I don’t allow a dog to mess with my legs precisely because I assume it takes a dominant role in this instance. So, I would tend to think she’s somewhat right. But i’m no evidence of it. She gave the example of wolves pack, but what about _dog’s_ pack? Also, I don’t think it would be the only occurence where a dog would “think” it’s in a dominant role. Actually, i think these occurences are pretty common with some dog’s owners. Finally it says nothing about other species (sheep, horses, whatever), as a poster already pointed out, nor about female dogs being boinked (assuming it’s possible). ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-it-is-wrong-to-have-sex-with-your-pets/108001/64 "2002-05-10T01:54:14Z")
I’ve been surprised by Ashtar post. It never occured to me that a zoophile could feel love for his pets. I always assumed it was all about sex. One learn something everyday… That said I’m not convinced by the OP argument. I don’t allow a dog to mess with my legs precisely because I assume it takes a dominant role in this instance. So, I would tend to think she’s somewhat right. But i’m no evidence of it. She gave the example of wolves pack, but what about _dog’s_ pack? Also, I don’t think it would be the only occurence where a dog would “think” it’s in a dominant role. Actually, i think these occurences are pretty common with some dog’s owners. Finally it says nothing about other species (sheep, horses, whatever), as a poster already pointed out, nor about female dogs being boinked (assuming it’s possible). ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-it-is-wrong-to-have-sex-with-your-pets/108001/65 "2002-05-10T02:03:07Z")
I’ve been surprised by Ashtar post. It never occured to me that a zoophile could feel love for his pets. I always assumed it was all about sex. One learn something everyday… That said I’m not convinced by the OP argument. I don’t allow a dog to mess with my legs precisely because I assume it takes a dominant role in this instance. So, I would tend to think she’s somewhat right. But i’m no evidence of it. She gave the example of wolves pack, but what about _dog’s_ pack? Also, I don’t think it would be the only occurence where a dog would “think” it’s in a dominant role. Actually, i think these occurences are pretty common with some dog’s owners. Finally it says nothing about other species (sheep, horses, whatever), as a poster already pointed out, nor about female dogs being boinked (assuming it’s possible). ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-it-is-wrong-to-have-sex-with-your-pets/108001/66 "2002-05-10T02:07:08Z")
I am not reading this thread. I am not reading this thread. I am not reading this thread. Why does it keep going on, and on. It’s very simple. If you have to ask the question procede immediately to psychiatric evaluation. Period. Do not fuck the dog. I repeat. Do not fuck the dog. Don’t as “Why can’t I fuck the dog?” It’s not the kind of thing open to debate. Just don’t do it. OK? ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-it-is-wrong-to-have-sex-with-your-pets/108001/67 "2002-05-10T02:25:40Z")
That’s really not the question we’re asking though. Mermaid THINKS it is…but what we really want to know is…if the dog has already BEEN FUCKED is it NECESSARY to euthanise it? J ---
**Author:** ![Barking\_Spider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@Barking\_Spider](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barking_Spider)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-it-is-wrong-to-have-sex-with-your-pets/108001/68 "2002-05-10T02:26:43Z")
Hey **Mermaid** , I’ve followed that California case pretty closely. In reading the news reports about it, if you read between the lines, one of the owners, Marjorie Knoller,probably was having sex with the dog. Knoller even told the police afterwards that Bane, the attacking dog, had stuck his nose in the victims crotch. When the victim tried to fend the dog off, she was attacked. Also, I used to have a girlfriend who told me that her dog was trained to eat her pussy(I know, I know, but she was a real hot piece of ass). Anyway, she told me that she would stick hamburger up her twat, and let the dog eat and lick it out. In the short time we went out, whenever I was at her house having sex with her, the damn dog would be acting agitated and growling outside the bedroom door, as if he were pissed off that I was having sex with her instead of HIM. ---
**Author:** ![Barking\_Spider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@Barking\_Spider](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barking_Spider)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-it-is-wrong-to-have-sex-with-your-pets/108001/69 "2002-05-10T02:34:12Z")
To clarify that, the dog was acting agitated seemingly because I was screwing my girlfriend, instead of him screwing her.:o ---
**Author:** ![Kyomara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8edcca/32.png) [@Kyomara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyomara)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-it-is-wrong-to-have-sex-with-your-pets/108001/70 "2002-05-10T02:35:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wikkit \* > **What? pravnik said that this was “the dogfucking thread”, I corrected to “a” (there are a lot of bestiality threads recently, this is a relatively small one). I then asked if it was s/h/its SOP to post a pointless comment to every thread they encountered. What about that is confusing?** Um…the fact that he didn’t do anything nearly annoying enough for you to jump up his ass like that. But whatever. It’s not really important. There’s enough anger in this thread already without starting new fights. Truce. 🙂 **Waverly** and **The Mermaid** , you’re both being ridiculous now. I don’t support **The Mermaid’s** view, but I read her posts and nowhere does she appear to suggest that I have sex with my pets. I think that in the heat of the moment she was referring to the original pet fucker back in the thread that spawned this one. Whatever. I’m going to go have a hot dog. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-it-is-wrong-to-have-sex-with-your-pets/108001/71 "2002-05-10T02:36:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \* > \*\*That’s really not the question we’re asking though. Mermaid THINKS it is…but what we really want to know is…if the dog has already BEEN FUCKED is it NECESSARY to euthanise it? > > J \*\* I guess you could make the argument that the dog should be euthanized if you also want to make the argument that rape victims should be executed. Doesn’t seem much more complicated then “don’t fuck dogs,” does it? ---
**Author:** ![Kaotic\_Newtral](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71e660/32.png) [@Kaotic\_Newtral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaotic_Newtral)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-it-is-wrong-to-have-sex-with-your-pets/108001/72 "2002-05-10T03:41:33Z")
K, this might be just for me…but “Don’t fuck dogs” seems to have promise as a band name. Although I dig the ‘Sex Pistols’…‘Don’t fuck dogs’ has promise. If not as a band name, at least an album. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-it-is-wrong-to-have-sex-with-your-pets/108001/73 "2002-05-10T04:20:24Z")
Y’know, I work for a humane society, and people do some fucked-up shit to animals every day. I could tell you stories that would make your hair curl. But we don’t euth every animal that’s been abused. Nor do we euth every animal that’s been allowed to take a dominant position. Far too many people abuse their animals, and plenty of them can be rehabilitated. And a huge number of people have no idea how to socialize their animals properly. While we’ve never (that I know of) dealt with animals involved in a zoophilic relationship, I don’t think we’d euth them immediately. Quite the contrary: their case would likely be so sensational that someone would volunteer to rehabilitate them. Our decision to place an animal for adoption or to euth an animal is complicated. Certainly we won’t place animals that are aggressive – but we base that on the animal’s actual or reported behavior, not based on theoretical concerns. I suspect people pay attention to bestiality because it’s sensational. Cute puppies are newsworthy. Sex is newsworthy. Cute puppies plus sex? Stop the presses. I think there’s much worse abuse that happens out there every day that flies under folks’ radar because it’s just dreary and awful. I’d much rather see folks focus on the more common abuse: dogs left out in the yard 24 hours a day, animals being hit because they’re not housetrained, animals abandoned by the road because the owner is moving to a new apartment that doesn’t allow pets, litters of animals abandoned because the owner can’t be bothered to get the parents sterilized. As for the Presario case: y’know, the owners also had books on raising fighting dogs, and had adopted a guy that was heavily involved in dogfighting. I think Occam’s razor would suggest that it was the fact that the dogs were fighting dogs that caused the problem. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-it-is-wrong-to-have-sex-with-your-pets/108001/74 "2002-05-10T04:37:15Z")
**Kyomara** , **pravnik** , I apologise. I’d been reading too many overly agressive threads and pravnik’s comment just annoyed me. Sorry for not ignoring it and moving on. Ben ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-it-is-wrong-to-have-sex-with-your-pets/108001/75 "2002-05-10T04:47:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wikkit \* > \*\ ***Kyomara** , **pravnik** , I apologise. I’d been reading too many overly agressive threads and pravnik’s comment just annoyed me. Sorry for not ignoring it and moving on. > > Ben \*\* No problem or worries. Everybody has days like that. I appreciate the sentiment, brother- -p ---
**Author:** ![Kyomara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8edcca/32.png) [@Kyomara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyomara)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-it-is-wrong-to-have-sex-with-your-pets/108001/76 "2002-05-10T04:56:18Z")
Look at the love we’ve brought here! You guys are my dawgs. [sub]snicker snicker[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-it-is-wrong-to-have-sex-with-your-pets/108001/77 "2002-05-10T14:05:48Z")
Scylla, I love you, but are you reading this thread? Mermaid is suggesting that sexualized dogs be euthanized not because they’ve been abused, but because they will take on a dominant position in the household once they’ve had sex with their master. So your rape victim analogy makes NO sense. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-it-is-wrong-to-have-sex-with-your-pets/108001/78 "2002-05-10T15:17:02Z")
When we find someone having sex with an animal, we should euthanize the animal _and_ the (sicko) person who engaged in the activity. Put that in your pipe and smoke it… ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-it-is-wrong-to-have-sex-with-your-pets/108001/79 "2002-05-10T16:08:09Z")
Why? Because it disgusts us? Or because the level of harm it does to society, or a member thereof, is so great that no lesser punishment will suffice? IOW, **Crafter\_Man** , are you taking a position you’re willing to defend, or are you saying that just to get a rise out of people? ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-it-is-wrong-to-have-sex-with-your-pets/108001/80 "2002-05-10T16:17:13Z")
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