# Why let a shitshow continue?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-let-a-shitshow-continue/819125>\
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**Created:** [August 5, 2018, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-let-a-shitshow-continue/819125 "2018-08-05T13:02:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-let-a-shitshow-continue/819125/1 "2018-08-05T13:02:50Z")

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> [@I don't believe man has ventured beyond low earth orbit. Change my mind.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-dont-believe-man-has-ventured-beyond-low-earth-orbit-change-my-mind/819114/109):
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> Now, to EVERYONE.
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> This thread has a high ‘go off the rails’ factor. I want everyone on their best behavior. I hope that’s clear.

Oh _please_. [The thread in question](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=859920) was a shitshow from post one. The OP clearly had no intent to debate earnestly; this seemed pretty apparent from post 1, but [by post 17](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21128244&postcount=17) it should have been clear to even the most optimistic observer that **Lord Foul** had zero intention of honest debate:

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> There has been a half century of indoctrination and a concerted effort by the liars to perpetuate the lie. If a thing cannot be then it isn’t. Every shred of post Apollo data is proof that a lunar transit cannot be accomplished at the reported exposure levels. Either the reported levels are erroneous or they never left LEO. You pick the one that eases you cognitive dissonance.

Then, **Johnathan Chance** shows up, passes out a few (well-deserved) warnings, and… leaves it open, with a warning that it has the chance to go off the rails.

Why? It’s _already_ gone off the rails. To be more accurate to the metaphor, there never were rails; this is an abandoned boxcar rusting in a field. There’s exactly one person in the thread arguing anything other than the mainstream position, and that person, as is well-established, is either uninterested in or incapable of rational debate. They’re not even making a whole lot of claims that really need to be addressed or refuted - just one, which was refuted almost immediately. I guess I just don’t get the decision to keep it open.

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-let-a-shitshow-continue/819125/2 "2018-08-05T13:34:01Z")

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I think he missed the boat here, but usually don’t mind his moderation.

He chastising the board users like children, in quite a condescending fashion, for snarking on a obvious troll.

Instead of talking to us like he’s our Sunday school teacher he should moderate the troll. Thread was clearly trolling and destined to be a shitshow, BY DESIGN.

Not JC’s best moderation, in my opinion.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-let-a-shitshow-continue/819125/3 "2018-08-05T13:35:15Z")

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So let me get this straight.

You want us to pre-judge threads, take to ourselves an arbitrary power to close threads and intervene on poster’s behavior based solely on whether in our opinion, a thread has some sort of value?

If we did that I’d pre-emptively close a lot of threads.

Far better to allow them to go on and have us intervene when rules are broken. Your ‘not debating fair’ is another person’s ‘back and forth’. Just because you don’t like their style doesn’t mean they should be shut down. If we were to sanction people based on style each of the three of us would issue 20 warnings or more per day and Great Debates would be a ghost town.

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**Author:** ![Twoflower](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/twoflower/32/22_2.png) [@Twoflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Twoflower)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-let-a-shitshow-continue/819125/4 "2018-08-05T14:04:35Z")

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I thought that OP reeked of old footwear, and I see it’s now in the cornfield

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**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2018, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-let-a-shitshow-continue/819125/5 "2018-08-05T14:30:17Z")

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I sent it to the cornfield. PM me if you want to know why.

Since the thread in question is no longer continuing, there’s not much point in keeping this open.

Thread closed.
