# Why must we suffer the "lesser" Kardashians? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 15, 2013, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-must-we-suffer-the-lesser-kardashians/666283 "2013-08-15T04:52:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-must-we-suffer-the-lesser-kardashians/666283/21 "2013-08-15T21:49:27Z")
> [@llcoolbj77](#): > > Courtney is the small one. Her life partner, Scott Disick, is quite likely the most awful human being (just in terms of self-absorption and lack of awareness) on the planet. Watching her deal with him is some what entertaining. But mostly I just feel sorry for her. In terms of mass appeal, I think it makes people feel good knowing that even the rich, pretty girl has a shit-heel life partner who wouldn’t know a vaccum cleaner from a hole in the ground. Yeah, being aware of it (mainly from _The Soup_) but never watching it, it took me a while to ‘get’ whether that guy Scott was really her boyfriend or some planted actor/wannabe. The guy looks, talks & acts like he’s auditioning for ‘Serial Killer no. 2’ in some B-movie! I hope the Jenner girls turn out ok. They seem a little smarter & more likable. Not to mention ten times cuter! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-must-we-suffer-the-lesser-kardashians/666283/22 "2013-08-15T21:58:35Z")
Garak is the only Kardashian worth a damn. Otherwise OJ Simpson’s Dead Lawyer’s Family holds no interest for me. ---
**Author:** ![bobkitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c67d28/32.png) [@bobkitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobkitty)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-must-we-suffer-the-lesser-kardashians/666283/23 "2013-08-16T00:23:37Z")
> [@llcoolbj77](#): > > I have not watched the show, minus some snippets. But I’m pretty up on my pop culture, and am known to indulge in the occassional OK Magazine article. Excellent summary, but you missed one thing: every female member of the family’s name begins with K. So it’s Kris, Kim, Kourtney, Khloe, Kendall, and… ummmmm… Kylie. One of the reasons why the tabloids were exploiting the story of Kim’s baby being named North was because allegedly Kris was all kinds of pissed off that the name didn’t begin with a K, which would have been extra perfect because… well, _K_anye. I know WAY too much about this situation. Clearly I need to scale back my TMZ reading. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-must-we-suffer-the-lesser-kardashians/666283/24 "2013-08-16T00:46:27Z")
> [@gwendee](#): > > Were Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey famous for anything before their show? Yes, both were singers long before the show started and remained singers long after it ended. Oh, and Paris Hilton was famous as a model long before her infamous sex tape and Fox execs were furious when it was released because the pilot for her show had already been filmed. ---
**Author:** ![Sudden\_Kestrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@Sudden\_Kestrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sudden_Kestrel)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-must-we-suffer-the-lesser-kardashians/666283/25 "2013-08-16T01:28:57Z")
> [@bobkitty](#): > > Excellent summary, but you missed one thing: every female member of the family’s name begins with K. So it’s Kris, Kim, Kourtney, Khloe, Kendall, and… ummmmm… Kylie. One of the reasons why the tabloids were exploiting the story of Kim’s baby being named North was because allegedly Kris was all kinds of pissed off that the name didn’t begin with a K, which would have been extra perfect because… well, _K_anye. > > I know WAY too much about this situation. Clearly I need to scale back my TMZ reading. They should have named the kid Knorth. ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-must-we-suffer-the-lesser-kardashians/666283/26 "2013-08-16T15:58:18Z")
> [@tullsterx](#): > > The Lesser Kardashians. . . that’s a cool band name. I was thinking it would be a good name for the smaller of two mountain chains, what with the peaks and all… ---
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-must-we-suffer-the-lesser-kardashians/666283/27 "2013-08-16T16:07:02Z")
I watch the show on and off (currently off, but was on back when she had her sham wedding, and the shamminess was televised) and I don’t feel like I’m suffering it. I’ve never watched honey boo boo and if it wasn’t for the ancillary comments on it (the Soup, Colbert, the internet) I would be blissfully unaware as I pass her face on the checkout-aisle mags. I guess I’m just dulled like that. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-must-we-suffer-the-lesser-kardashians/666283/28 "2013-08-16T16:20:27Z")
Okay, now whenever I see this thread OP, I’m thinking “Suffer the little Kardashians to come unto me…” But not me specifically, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Jim\_s\_Son](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@Jim\_s\_Son](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jim_s_Son)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-must-we-suffer-the-lesser-kardashians/666283/29 "2013-08-16T22:41:31Z")
We have to endure them because we aren’t ruled by the Windsors family idiots. Blame the minutemen at Lexington. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-must-we-suffer-the-lesser-kardashians/666283/30 "2013-08-17T00:45:52Z")
The youngest ones is actually by far the hottest of the bunch, she’s an actual model i think. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-must-we-suffer-the-lesser-kardashians/666283/31 "2013-08-17T18:15:30Z")
I wish I could take away money from the Bank of England, and no one would be the wiser. I wish I could take away all the reality television, and everyone would be the wiser. (archaic: I wish I could reform the Ottoman Imperial bureaucracy, and no one would be the vizier.) ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-must-we-suffer-the-lesser-kardashians/666283/32 "2013-08-17T18:47:45Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Is it any worse than watching completely fictional people? Well, yeah. Scripted TV generally has better dialog, plotting, acting, direction and cinematography. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-must-we-suffer-the-lesser-kardashians/666283/33 "2013-08-17T19:37:08Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Well, yeah. Scripted TV generally has better dialog, plotting, acting, direction and cinematography. Not to mention characters. motivation, plot resolution and commercials. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-must-we-suffer-the-lesser-kardashians/666283/34 "2013-08-17T21:27:05Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Yes, both were singers long before the show started and remained singers long after it ended. Oh, and Paris Hilton was famous as a model long before her infamous sex tape and Fox execs were furious when it was released because the pilot for her show had already been filmed. Nick Lachey was more or less Justin Timberlake’s competition back in the days when NSync and 98 Degrees were competing boy bands (late 1990s). Jessica Simpson IIRC was a successful Christian singer, and crossed over sometime around the same time to have a few pop hits (not coincidentally about the time she sexed up her image to be more similar to Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera). Nobody had really heard of Paris Hilton though; I think maybe she and her sister had cracked one of the Maxim or FHM hot chick lists, but mostly as being good looking women worth a ridiculous amount of cash. ---
**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-must-we-suffer-the-lesser-kardashians/666283/35 "2013-08-17T23:26:00Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > The youngest ones is actually by far the hottest of the bunch, she’s an actual model i think. I think you mean the second to youngest, Kendall. She’s been a model for a year or two now. The youngest, Kylie, is mighty cute too though. > [@bump](#): > > Nobody had really heard of Paris Hilton though; I think maybe she and her sister had cracked one of the Maxim or FHM hot chick lists, but mostly as being good looking women worth a ridiculous amount of cash. Yeah, when somebody said she was a model first I had to look it up. I guess she did some phoney-baloney modeling for Trump’s agency. But yeah, she was a nobody before her sex tape. At least no more than a D-list socialite (which is a fancy word for rich, young slut). She’s not pretty enough to be a model, nose is too tall and got a wonky eye. Tall, leggy blond though so that, everyone in the world seeing her run around buck naked (and suck a mean dick) plus millions of dollars makes her a household name these days! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2013, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-must-we-suffer-the-lesser-kardashians/666283/36 "2013-08-17T23:57:51Z")
I can only conclude that the Kardashian clan is brilliant. How else to explain that they can make a living as entertainers despite having no more noticeable talent than tens of millions of others? ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2013, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-must-we-suffer-the-lesser-kardashians/666283/37 "2013-08-18T00:11:56Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Is it any worse than watching completely fictional people? Yes. Because when I willingly watch “completely fictional” people, I’m watching people practice an art or craft which tells me a story I find entertaining. People like Paris Hilton or the kardashians are worthless trash. They’ve exploited our culture’s worship of celebrities to become famous for no reason whatsoever. They’re neither actors or musicians. They do nothing of note other than have PR machines constantly slamming them in everyone’s faces as though we’re supposed to admire them for some goddamn reason. ---
**Author:** ![Zago](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecccb3/32.png) [@Zago](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zago)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2013, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-must-we-suffer-the-lesser-kardashians/666283/38 "2013-08-18T00:26:02Z")
They’re all in the spotlight because Mama Kardashian (Kris/Chris?) has made it her life’s work to promote her kids with the aim that they will always be financially well-off. She’s one of the executive producers of the show and the kids’ agent. Like any good agent she is relentless in working any angle to promote her clients. She’s also a fame whore herself. ---
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2013, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-must-we-suffer-the-lesser-kardashians/666283/39 "2013-08-18T00:48:22Z")
Paris’s sister is much prettier. Paris was maybe vaguely known as an party-girl heiress before her sex tape but only among those who were super-plugged into the paparazzi circuit. She didn’t ping on anyone’s radar on a national scale until the sex tape. Well, the sex tape and her reality show with Nicole Richey. The two kind of came out concurrently so it’s fuzzy as to which was the chicken and which was the egg. ---
**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2013, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-must-we-suffer-the-lesser-kardashians/666283/40 "2013-08-18T08:38:40Z")
> [@Zago](#): > > They’re all in the spotlight because Mama Kardashian (Kris/Chris?) has made it her life’s work to promote her kids with the aim that they will always be financially well-off. She’s one of the executive producers of the show and the kids’ agent. Like any good agent she is relentless in working any angle to promote her clients. She’s also a fame whore herself. Although it did all start with Kim’s sex tape, once that happened the mom Kris Jenner took it and ran with it. Ryan Seacrest is to blame too, he produced their E! show. Kris Jenner is definitely an evil genius, as I have little doubt that Kim’s wedding of the century to that retarded football player was completely the mom’s doing. She pushed her daughter into it, knowingly or unknowingly, because she knew they were right at that tipping point of fame where exploiting, I mean having, a huge, lavish, fairy tale wedding could net the family 30+ million dollars! And when push came to shove I can picture her telling Kim ‘Look, if it doesn’t work out get a divorce or annulment’. And she was right. Probably _The Soup_’s Joel McHale’s greatest moment was predicting that the marriage wouldn’t least 72 days, the legal limit for an annulment. He was only off by \*\*\*one \*\*\*day! I love how recently the mom wanted to go back to her previous name, Kris Kardashian, cause it works better fame-whore wise. Bruce Jenner must have loved that! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-must-we-suffer-the-lesser-kardashians/666283.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-must-we-suffer-the-lesser-kardashians/666283.md?page=3)