# Why no calls for 'civility' from liberals in wake of "tastes like hate" anti-Chick-Fil-A campaign?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [August 16, 2012, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-calls-for-civility-from-liberals-in-wake-of-tastes-like-hate-anti-chick-fil-a-campaign/631656 "2012-08-16T08:55:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![lycopersiyum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9fc29f/32.png) [@lycopersiyum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lycopersiyum)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-calls-for-civility-from-liberals-in-wake-of-tastes-like-hate-anti-chick-fil-a-campaign/631656/161 "2012-08-24T11:36:11Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> When someone is asking a question about a well known fact that could be answered by just googling it if they cared to make the effort themselves, yes.

Yep, this is how your type answers questions they consider to be “well known facts.” Let me disabuse you of the notion that your ideas are well-known facts.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-calls-for-civility-from-liberals-in-wake-of-tastes-like-hate-anti-chick-fil-a-campaign/631656/162 "2012-08-24T12:04:05Z")

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> [@lycopersiyum](#):
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> Yep, this is how your type answers questions they consider to be “well known facts.” Let me disabuse you of the notion that your ideas are well-known facts.

Are we to take you at your word, or do _you_ have a counter-cite that shows his to be wrong?

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**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-calls-for-civility-from-liberals-in-wake-of-tastes-like-hate-anti-chick-fil-a-campaign/631656/163 "2012-08-24T12:09:16Z")

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> [@lycopersiyum](#):
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> Yep, this is how your type answers questions they consider to be “well known facts.” Let me disabuse you of the notion that your ideas are well-known facts.

They’re well known to everyone I know. Some of the more right wing of my acquaintances applaud them for it.

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**Author:** ![lycopersiyum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9fc29f/32.png) [@lycopersiyum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lycopersiyum)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-calls-for-civility-from-liberals-in-wake-of-tastes-like-hate-anti-chick-fil-a-campaign/631656/164 "2012-08-24T12:12:04Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Are we to take you at your word, or do _you_ have a counter-cite that shows his to be wrong?

Hey, just do a google search and pluck one of the first listings. That would satisfy  
your criteria for truth, as far as we know.

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**Author:** ![lycopersiyum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9fc29f/32.png) [@lycopersiyum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lycopersiyum)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-calls-for-civility-from-liberals-in-wake-of-tastes-like-hate-anti-chick-fil-a-campaign/631656/165 "2012-08-24T12:18:33Z")

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> [@Who\_me\_1](#):
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> They’re well known to everyone I know. Some of the more right wing of my acquaintances applaud them for it.

Wait, so you’re claiming that because your personal friends agree with you, you are right?

My personal friends agree that liberals like to fuck pigs. Am I right to say that liberals like you like to fuck pigs?

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-calls-for-civility-from-liberals-in-wake-of-tastes-like-hate-anti-chick-fil-a-campaign/631656/166 "2012-08-24T12:19:28Z")

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> [@lycopersiyum](#):
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> Hey, just do a google search and pluck one of the first listings. That would satisfy  
> your criteria for truth, as far as we know.

[It was posted in detail in this very thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15396336&postcount=101). Why are you fixating on a quick cite that Der gave you to be nice?

Are you just trying to deflect that you were wrong by shouting about trivialities?

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-calls-for-civility-from-liberals-in-wake-of-tastes-like-hate-anti-chick-fil-a-campaign/631656/167 "2012-08-24T12:21:14Z")

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> [@lycopersiyum](#):
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> Wait, so you’re claiming that because your personal friends agree with you, you are right?
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> My personal friends agree that liberals like to fuck pigs. Am I right to say that liberals like you like to fuck pigs?

Oh, my bad. I thought you were actually interested in an intelligent debate.

Feel free to keep on screaming at the clouds.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-calls-for-civility-from-liberals-in-wake-of-tastes-like-hate-anti-chick-fil-a-campaign/631656/168 "2012-08-24T12:21:16Z")

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> [@lycopersiyum](#):
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> Hey, just do a google search and pluck one of the first listings. That would satisfy  
> your criteria for truth, as far as we know.

In other words; no you don’t, and you don’t have any actual arguments for your side, or even any arguments against ours that you’ve been willing to present.

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**Author:** ![lycopersiyum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9fc29f/32.png) [@lycopersiyum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lycopersiyum)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-calls-for-civility-from-liberals-in-wake-of-tastes-like-hate-anti-chick-fil-a-campaign/631656/169 "2012-08-24T12:29:10Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> [It was posted in detail in this very thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15396336&postcount=101). Why are you fixating on a quick cite that Der gave you to be nice?
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> Are you just trying to deflect that you were wrong by shouting about trivialities?

Honestly, trying to combat an accusation of biased news sources by offering additional biased news sources? Look, most people can see that.

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**Author:** ![lycopersiyum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9fc29f/32.png) [@lycopersiyum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lycopersiyum)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-calls-for-civility-from-liberals-in-wake-of-tastes-like-hate-anti-chick-fil-a-campaign/631656/170 "2012-08-24T12:30:54Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Oh, my bad. I thought you were actually interested in an intelligent debate.
> 
> Feel free to keep on screaming at the clouds.

Meaning of your post seems to equal zero.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-calls-for-civility-from-liberals-in-wake-of-tastes-like-hate-anti-chick-fil-a-campaign/631656/171 "2012-08-24T12:35:15Z")

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> [@lycopersiyum](#):
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> Honestly, trying to combat an accusation of biased news sources by offering additional biased news sources? Look, most people can see that.

You either have an alternate cite, or you don’t. If you do, we’ll look at it.  
It you don’t, you have nothing worth listening to.

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**Author:** ![lycopersiyum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9fc29f/32.png) [@lycopersiyum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lycopersiyum)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-calls-for-civility-from-liberals-in-wake-of-tastes-like-hate-anti-chick-fil-a-campaign/631656/172 "2012-08-24T12:36:00Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> In other words; no you don’t, and you don’t have any actual arguments for your side, or even any arguments against ours that you’ve been willing to present.

What? The whole point of my post was to encourage your side to create a believable argument. As in not one manufactured by various partisan blogs. Predictably, they can’t. Yet they just love to slither onto any forum they can to denounce the intelligence of their opposition. It’s pretty easy for an idiot to say that everybody’s an idiot.

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**Author:** ![lycopersiyum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9fc29f/32.png) [@lycopersiyum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lycopersiyum)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-calls-for-civility-from-liberals-in-wake-of-tastes-like-hate-anti-chick-fil-a-campaign/631656/173 "2012-08-24T12:39:31Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> You either have an alternate cite, or you don’t. If you do, we’ll look at it.  
> It you don’t, you have nothing worth listening to.

You won’t look at it. You’ve been conditioned by your hate sites to regard any dissenting opinion as ignorant. So you are stuck in your own little echo chamber of like beliefs that hate all dissenting beliefs.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-calls-for-civility-from-liberals-in-wake-of-tastes-like-hate-anti-chick-fil-a-campaign/631656/174 "2012-08-24T12:43:20Z")

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> [@lycopersiyum](#):
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> You won’t look at it. You’ve been conditioned by your hate sites to regard any dissenting opinion as ignorant. So you are stuck in your own little echo chamber of like beliefs that hate all dissenting beliefs.

You’ve got nothing but mouth, otherwise you would provide that supposed cite.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-calls-for-civility-from-liberals-in-wake-of-tastes-like-hate-anti-chick-fil-a-campaign/631656/175 "2012-08-24T12:49:47Z")

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> [@lycopersiyum](#):
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> You won’t look at it. You’ve been conditioned by your hate sites to regard any dissenting opinion as ignorant. So you are stuck in your own little echo chamber of like beliefs that hate all dissenting beliefs.

Yes, that’s why you’ve been banned faster than a Nader voter on FreeRepublic oh wait…

We’ve presented actual facts and an actual argument. You’ve presented nothing and ignored everything we’ve presented. Which leads us to the conclusion that you’ve _got_ nothing.

Meanwhile, you’re busily dismissing all views that dissent from yours as ignorant. Funny about that…

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-calls-for-civility-from-liberals-in-wake-of-tastes-like-hate-anti-chick-fil-a-campaign/631656/176 "2012-08-24T12:50:08Z")

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> [@lycopersiyum](#):
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> You won’t look at it. You’ve been conditioned by your hate sites to regard any dissenting opinion as ignorant. So you are stuck in your own little echo chamber of like beliefs that hate all dissenting beliefs.

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> You’ve got nothing but mouth, otherwise you would provide that supposed cite.

Stop, both of you. **lycopersiyum** , personal comments are not welcome in this part of the site, so your tone is becoming inappropriate for this forum. And I have to add that you are demanding cites for no particular purpose. If you Googled this yourself, you’d see that Chick-Fil-A’s donations are a very well established fact. The company does not dispute what its WinShape foundation does with its money. It would argue that it’s not hateful, but it’s known that the company gives money to the Family Research Council and other groups. All of this hostility was unnecessary.

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**Author:** ![lycopersiyum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9fc29f/32.png) [@lycopersiyum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lycopersiyum)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-calls-for-civility-from-liberals-in-wake-of-tastes-like-hate-anti-chick-fil-a-campaign/631656/177 "2012-08-24T12:59:21Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Stop, both of you. **lycopersiyum** , personal comments are not welcome in this part of the site, so your tone is becoming inappropriate for this forum. And I have to add that you are demanding cites for no particular purpose. If you Googled this yourself, you’d see that Chick-Fil-A’s donations are a very well established fact. The company does not dispute what its WinShape foundation does with its money. It would argue that it’s not hateful, but it’s known that the company gives money to the Family Research Council and other groups. All of this hostility was unnecessary.

lol, moderation on the side of the liberals posting. What a shock.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-calls-for-civility-from-liberals-in-wake-of-tastes-like-hate-anti-chick-fil-a-campaign/631656/178 "2012-08-24T13:01:01Z")

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> [@lycopersiyum](#):
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> lol, moderation on the side of the liberals posting. What a shock.

I instructed both of you to stop. And you do need to stop. Personal insults are allowed in the BBQ Pit, but not in Great Debates.

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**Author:** ![lycopersiyum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9fc29f/32.png) [@lycopersiyum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lycopersiyum)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-calls-for-civility-from-liberals-in-wake-of-tastes-like-hate-anti-chick-fil-a-campaign/631656/179 "2012-08-24T13:15:54Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I instructed both of you to stop. And you do need to stop. Personal insults are allowed in the BBQ Pit, but not in Great Debates.

Hey Marley,  
Maybe you should quote the exact words that resulted in censorship, for both sides of the aisle. I believe you can do this.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2012, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-calls-for-civility-from-liberals-in-wake-of-tastes-like-hate-anti-chick-fil-a-campaign/631656/180 "2012-08-24T13:17:33Z")

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You’re right that I can do it. In fact I already did it. I could quote more of your posts, but I don’t think that’s necessary. You are new here and I think you’d be well served to figure out what the rules and the arguing style are instead of jumping in with guns blazing. Now: if you have further questions about the moderating, please start a thread in the About This Message Board section or ask me by private message. Stop posting these comments in this thread.

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