# Why no DINOs?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-dinos/617948>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [April 5, 2012, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-dinos/617948 "2012-04-05T22:30:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-dinos/617948/21 "2012-04-07T20:04:28Z")

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The classic answer to OP:  
[QUOTE=Will Rogers]  
I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat.  
[/QUOTE]

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2012, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-dinos/617948/22 "2012-04-08T03:57:28Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> I can fucking tell you why. Sense and reason.
> 
> Take yourself back to Dec 2009. I had determined that I wished to run for County Commission. Simple enough.
> 
> Problem: I had no party affiliation. I knew people of both parties who I thought highly of and could identify with closely.
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> So I called the county chairs of both parties and asked to meet with them.
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> I met with the chair of the local Democratic party and outlined my positions. These included my pro-business stances and such. Free marketeer, minimal regulation, open opportunities and such. She told me there was room for that in her party and that she’d be glad to have me and the party would support me if I could to be a democrat.
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> I met with the chair of the local Republican party. He told me that his committee had discussed my potential candidacy and that if I would agree to sign a pledge supporting these 20-odd items they would consider me. He even said I didn’t have to actually support them but I would have to SAY that I did and act as if I did to gain their support.
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> That, my friends, is why you have a lot of talk of RINOS and little of DINOS.

The Democratic Party is a coalition of liberals, moderates and conservatives. Jonathan Chance appears to be a conservative, or so I perceive. I’m an ultra-liberal Democrat. Do I consider J.C. to be a DINO?

Hardly. In fact, let me extend to him a belated welcome to the team. Basically, if you oppose bigotry and dictatorship and embrace empiricism, you are ok with me.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2012, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-dinos/617948/23 "2012-04-15T04:01:03Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> The classic answer to OP: Quote:  
> Originally Posted by Will Rogers  
> I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat.

Yep. The party of the Big Tent.

There’s something nicely chaotic about the Democratic Party that is missing from the nice neat orderly Republicans.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2012, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-dinos/617948/24 "2012-04-15T19:08:18Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> Yep. The party of the Big Tent.
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> There’s something nicely chaotic about the Democratic Party that is missing from the nice neat orderly Republicans.

When you already know all the answers, there’s no need to debate.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2012, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-dinos/617948/25 "2012-04-15T23:53:47Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> When you already know all the answers, there’s no need to debate.

What have you contributed to a debate other than a 75-year-old joke?

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-dinos/617948/26 "2012-04-16T08:26:30Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> What have you contributed to a debate other than a 75-year-old joke?

I’m curious how you interpreted my 2nd comment, and also whether you think Rogers’ comment applies to today’s party.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-dinos/617948/27 "2012-04-16T15:19:42Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> What have you contributed to a debate other than a 75-year-old joke?

Mr. Mapcase didn’t answer my follow-on query, so I’m not sure where his confusion lies.

I think my short Rogers quip addressed OP’s question perfectly. Sorry if it was humorous. **BigAppleBucky** connected the dots. **Exapno Mapcase** couldn’t. Others?

Or perhaps Mr. Mapcase thought my one-sentence but snarky description of modern Republicans was snark somehow directed at **BigAppleBucky**. Apologies if anyone else was confused.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-dinos/617948/28 "2012-04-16T16:21:13Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Mr. Mapcase didn’t answer my follow-on query, so I’m not sure where his confusion lies. …
> 
> Or perhaps Mr. Mapcase thought my one-sentence but snarky description of modern Republicans was snark somehow directed at **BigAppleBucky**. Apologies if anyone else was confused.

Sorry that I didn’t wake up in the middle of the night to reply to this urgent post. Had I but known.

In my state of confusion I somehow leaped to the conclusion that a snarky comment made when quoting BigAppleBucky was aimed at BigAppleBucky. And missed the obvious fact that a comment made with no reference to Republicans must necessarily refer to Republicans.

What foolishness.

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-dinos/617948/29 "2012-04-16T18:09:22Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> You hear about RINOs (Republicans In Name Only) alot, but never the Democratic equivalent. Why is that?

In Canada, you hear more about Red Tories than Blue Grits as well. In my experience, anyways.

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