# Why no hate speech allowed here?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-hate-speech-allowed-here/386250>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 31, 2006, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-hate-speech-allowed-here/386250 "2006-12-31T22:50:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2007, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-hate-speech-allowed-here/386250/61 "2007-01-01T23:02:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Lute Skywatcher]  
When the only one who publicly agrees with you is [David Duke](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke%5B/url), it’s time to rethink your position.  
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Cite that he is the only one to agree publicly with me?

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2007, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-hate-speech-allowed-here/386250/62 "2007-01-01T23:03:56Z")

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[QUOTE=lissener]  
Um, I hear \*white \*people use the term “white trash” far more than I hear black people use it. And it is \*solely \*a denigration of class, not of race.  
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Is your experience the test? If it only refers to white people, how can it not be about race?

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2007, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-hate-speech-allowed-here/386250/63 "2007-01-01T23:27:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]  
Is your experience the test? If it only refers to white people, how can it not be about race?  
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I’m not gonna repeat myself for you, Cont. You obviously have an agenda that drives your argument.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2007, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-hate-speech-allowed-here/386250/64 "2007-01-01T23:28:35Z")

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[QUOTE=lissener]  
I’m not gonna repeat myself for you, Cont. You obviously have an agenda that drives your argument.  
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Correct. The truth.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2007, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-hate-speech-allowed-here/386250/65 "2007-01-01T23:32:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]  
Cite that he is the only one to agree publicly with me?  
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When that long Pit thread of yours was active, I did an extensive search trying to find someone other than you claiming that “white trash” should be considered to be the equivalent of “nigger” and he’s the only one who came up. If there is anyone else who publicly agrees with you, I say with confidence that neither they nor any of their friends are on the internet. That’s a mighty small precentage of the population.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2007, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-hate-speech-allowed-here/386250/66 "2007-01-01T23:37:07Z")

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I have “stooges”? Why didn’t anyone inform me?

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2007, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-hate-speech-allowed-here/386250/67 "2007-01-01T23:39:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Lute Skywatcher]  
When that long Pit thread of yours was active, I did an extensive search trying to find someone other than you claiming that “white trash” should be considered to be the equivalent of “nigger” and he’s the only one who came up. If there is anyone else who publicly agrees with you, I say with confidence that neither they nor any of their friends are on the internet. That’s a mighty small precentage of the population.  
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I have several responses.

You cannot find it, so it does not exist? Seriously?

I never said that it was the eqivalent of “nigger,” so just maybe your search parameters need adjusting.

Several posters _in that very thread_ agreed with me. Publicly.

Finally, Hi **Lute**! Where ya been? Can I take your long absence as tacit approval of my postings?

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2007, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-hate-speech-allowed-here/386250/68 "2007-01-01T23:48:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Dr. Rieux]  
I have “stooges”? Why didn’t anyone inform me?  
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You’re a doctor - can’t you self-diagnose?  
😃

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-hate-speech-allowed-here/386250/69 "2007-01-02T00:10:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Lute Skywatcher]  
That’s a mighty small precentage of the population.  
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But still, greater than _one_, eh?

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-hate-speech-allowed-here/386250/70 "2007-01-02T08:28:54Z")

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[QUOTE=Lust4Life]  
Anywhere in the world ,using any medium you can use hate speech at will without any sanctions…as long as it is directed at white ,middle class males.

Then its freedom of speech.  
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Those poor, poor white middle class males. Being maligned and treated shabbily without any recourse…It is enough to make the proverbial Baby Jesus cry. Luckily for us, **Lust4Life** is there to remind us that what really matters is that we white males are being oppressed.(I had no idea! Here, I thought I was just unpopular!) Because that truly is our most pressing issue.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-hate-speech-allowed-here/386250/71 "2007-01-02T20:09:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]  
Finally, Hi **Lute**! Where ya been?  
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I lost track of this board while on vacation for Thanksgiving and still keep my posting to a minium.

> [@](#):
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> Can I take your long absence as tacit approval of my postings?

No, you cannot. I still think you’re tilting at verbal windmills.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-hate-speech-allowed-here/386250/72 "2007-01-02T20:24:15Z")

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Hmm…I should’ve put more thought into that. “Participation” fits better than “posting”.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2007, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-hate-speech-allowed-here/386250/73 "2007-01-02T20:25:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Lute Skywatcher]  
No, you cannot. I still think you’re tilting at verbal windmills.  
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I don’t mean about ‘white trash.’ We’re never going to agree on that. I mean in general. You know, since you revealed it was your mission to make sure that I did not spread ignorance and stuff, I kind of wondered how I was doing.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-hate-speech-allowed-here/386250/74 "2007-01-03T05:23:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Dr. Rieux]  
I have “stooges”? Why didn’t anyone inform me?  
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Well, I told your stooges to pass the word but, being stooges and none too bright, they forgot.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-hate-speech-allowed-here/386250/75 "2007-01-03T11:27:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
Well, I told your stooges to pass the word but, being stooges and none too bright, they forgot.  
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Doctors Howard, Fine, and Howard were never all that reliable.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-hate-speech-allowed-here/386250/76 "2007-01-03T16:38:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]  
I don’t mean about ‘white trash.’ We’re never going to agree on that. I mean in general. You know, since you revealed it was your mission to make sure that I did not spread ignorance and stuff, I kind of wondered how I was doing.  
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First you need to stop being so paranoid. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-hate-speech-allowed-here/386250/77 "2007-01-03T16:49:41Z")

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To make sure there is no misunderstanding:

1. I am not nor have ever been stalking you, nor do I appreciate the accusation, and have made this quite clear to TPTB.

2. I make it a point to not try to _prove_ anyone wrong but rather try to get them to acknolwedge the possibility that they aren’t as right as they think they are.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-hate-speech-allowed-here/386250/78 "2007-01-03T17:14:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Lute Skywatcher]  
To make sure there is no misunderstanding:

1. I am not nor have ever been stalking you, nor do I appreciate the accusation, and have made this quite clear to TPTB.

2. I make it a point to not try to _prove_ anyone wrong but rather try to get them to acknolwedge the possibility that they aren’t as right as they think they are.  
[/QUOTE]  
No accusation of stalking intended, nor mention of proof. I was just looking for a status check. I’ve disappointed a lot of folks, **Lute** , but I could not bear to disappoint you.

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**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-hate-speech-allowed-here/386250/79 "2007-01-03T17:26:07Z")

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[QUOTE=Lute Skywatcher]  
To make sure there is no misunderstanding:

1. I am not nor have ever been stalking you, nor do I appreciate the accusation, and have made this quite clear to TPTB.

2. I make it a point to not try to _prove_ anyone wrong but rather try to get them to acknolwedge the possibility that they aren’t as right as they think they are.  
[/QUOTE]

> [@Contrapuntal](#):
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> No accusation of stalking intended, nor mention of proof. I was just looking for a status check. I’ve disappointed a lot of folks, Lute, but I could not bear to disappoint you.

Maybe **Lute** should stop being so paranoid. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-hate-speech-allowed-here/386250/80 "2007-01-03T17:40:53Z")

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[QUOTE=rayh]  
Maybe **Lute** should stop being so paranoid. 🙂  
[/QUOTE]  
No, **Contra** directly accused me of stalking a few months ago.

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