# Why no more young Sherlock Holmes young Indiana Jones

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**Created:** [June 26, 2008, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-more-young-sherlock-holmes-young-indiana-jones/454349 "2008-06-26T19:49:01Z")\
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Seems like a great idea-take a famous character and make a story about them growing up. So why no more after young Sherlock Holmes and Indiana Jones ?

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-more-young-sherlock-holmes-young-indiana-jones/454349/2 "2008-06-26T19:59:25Z")

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> Why no more young Sherlock Holmes young Indiana Jones
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> Seems like a great idea-take a famous character and make a story about them growing up. So why no more after young Sherlock Holmes and Indiana Jones ?

Well, Young Sherlock Holmes was a one-fer movie, which I thought was a bit dumb (The plot was sort of Sherlock Holmes and the Temple of Doom, but with anachronistic Holmes and Watson teaming up as kids.  
Young Indiana Jones was different. Sort of realistic, with Indy meeting the important and interesting figures of the time. I never watched it, so I can’t say more.  
If you’re looking for something kinda sorta like that, look up the collected **Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck** by Don Rosa, and its companion volume **The life and Times of Scrooge mcDuck Companion** :

> **[The Life And Times Of Scrooge McDuck: Rosa, Don, Clark, John, Rosa, Don:...](https://www.amazon.com/Life-Times-Scrooge-McDuck/dp/0911903968)**
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> The Life And Times Of Scrooge McDuck \[Rosa, Don, Clark, John, Rosa, Don\] on Amazon.com. \*FREE\* shipping on qualifying offers. The Life And Times Of Scrooge McDuck

> **[The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck Companion (Walt Disney's the Life and Times...](https://www.amazon.com/Scrooge-McDuck-Companion-Disneys-Mcduck/dp/1888472405)**
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> The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck Companion (Walt Disney's the Life and Times of Scrooge Mcduck) \[Rosa, Don, Clark, John, Rosa, Don\] on Amazon.com. \*FREE\* shipping on qualifying offers. The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck Companion (Walt Disney's...

> **[The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Life_and_Times_of_Scrooge_McDuck)**
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> The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck (often stylized as The Life and Times of $CROOGE MꟲDUCK; sometimes abbreviated as Life of $crooge or Lo$) is a 12-part comic book storyline written and drawn by Don Rosa, lettered by Todd Klein (American editions), first published by the Danish publisher Egmont in the magazine Anders And & Co. from 1992 to 1994 and later in English in Uncle Scrooge #285 through #296 (1994–96). It follows the life of Scrooge McDuck from 1877 to 1947, the year of his re Rosa e...

I kid you not – in the style of the master Carl Barks, and well-researched. Scrooge McDuck meets Teddy Roosevelt and other historical figures as he seeks his fortune. Faithful to the Barks stories (as far as it can be) and an offbeat history lesson.

And Better than Young Sherlock Holmes.

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-more-young-sherlock-holmes-young-indiana-jones/454349/3 "2008-06-26T20:15:20Z")

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[QUOTE=CalMeacham]  
Well, Young Sherlock Holmes was a one-fer movie, which I thought was a bit dumb (The plot was sort of Sherlock Holmes and the Temple of Doom, but with anachronistic Holmes and Watson teaming up as kids.  
Young Indiana Jones was different. Sort of realistic, with Indy meeting the important and interesting figures of the time. I never watched it, so I can’t say more.  
If you’re looking for something kinda sorta like that, look up the collected **Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck** by Don Rosa, and its companion volume **The life and Times of Scrooge mcDuck Companion** :

> **[The Life And Times Of Scrooge McDuck: Rosa, Don, Clark, John, Rosa, Don:...](https://www.amazon.com/Life-Times-Scrooge-McDuck/dp/0911903968)**
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> The Life And Times Of Scrooge McDuck \[Rosa, Don, Clark, John, Rosa, Don\] on Amazon.com. \*FREE\* shipping on qualifying offers. The Life And Times Of Scrooge McDuck

> **[The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck Companion (Walt Disney's the Life and Times...](https://www.amazon.com/Scrooge-McDuck-Companion-Disneys-Mcduck/dp/1888472405)**
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> The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck Companion (Walt Disney's the Life and Times of Scrooge Mcduck) \[Rosa, Don, Clark, John, Rosa, Don\] on Amazon.com. \*FREE\* shipping on qualifying offers. The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck Companion (Walt Disney's...

> **[The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Life_and_Times_of_Scrooge_McDuck)**
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> The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck (often stylized as The Life and Times of $CROOGE MꟲDUCK; sometimes abbreviated as Life of $crooge or Lo$) is a 12-part comic book storyline written and drawn by Don Rosa, lettered by Todd Klein (American editions), first published by the Danish publisher Egmont in the magazine Anders And & Co. from 1992 to 1994 and later in English in Uncle Scrooge #285 through #296 (1994–96). It follows the life of Scrooge McDuck from 1877 to 1947, the year of his re Rosa e...

I kid you not – in the style of the master Carl Barks, and well-researched. Scrooge McDuck meets Teddy Roosevelt and other historical figures as he seeks his fortune. Faithful to the Barks stories (as far as it can be) and an offbeat history lesson.

And Better than Young Sherlock Holmes.  
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Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck by Don Rosa is another good example. I read the original 12 when they first came out. They are now all in storage.

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-more-young-sherlock-holmes-young-indiana-jones/454349/4 "2008-06-26T20:33:42Z")

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[QUOTE=blinkingblinking]  
Seems like a great idea-take a famous character and make a story about them growing up. So why no more after young Sherlock Holmes and Indiana Jones ?  
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Well, the YIJ series lasted just long enough that he wasn’t really all that young anymore by the time the show was cancelled.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-more-young-sherlock-holmes-young-indiana-jones/454349/5 "2008-06-26T20:41:36Z")

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> Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck by Don Rosa is another good example. I read the original 12 when they first came out. They are now all in storage.

One of us is being whooshed. Please read my post again.

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-more-young-sherlock-holmes-young-indiana-jones/454349/6 "2008-06-26T20:41:49Z")

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I think “Young Darth Vader with Young Obi-Wan Kenobi With A Special Appearance By Young Boba Fett”, aka the Star Wars Episodes 1-3 might have killed that concept.

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-more-young-sherlock-holmes-young-indiana-jones/454349/7 "2008-06-26T20:46:03Z")

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[QUOTE=CalMeacham]  
One of us is being whooshed. Please read my post again.  
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You lost me completely. Sherlock Holmes and Indy Jones were my two examples. I was just saying Scrooge McDuck is another example of the ‘Young famous character’. What were you saying?

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> You lost me completely. Sherlock Holmes and Indy Jones were my two examples. I was just saying Scrooge McDuck is another example of the ‘Young famous character’. What were you saying?

Sorry – I misunderstood your post. Instead of seeing it as acknowledging my suggestion, I thought you were suggesting it, not noticing that I had just done so (or thinking the Don Rosa 12 issues were perhaps different from the collection)

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-more-young-sherlock-holmes-young-indiana-jones/454349/9 "2008-06-26T21:47:27Z")

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Muppet Babies.

_Dumb and Dumberer_.

The bit from _Goldmember_ with a young Austin Powers and Dr. Evil.

The apocryphal gospels purporting to show scenes from Jesus’s childhood.

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-more-young-sherlock-holmes-young-indiana-jones/454349/10 "2008-06-26T22:12:08Z")

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Haven’t they been writing Teenage James Bond books or something?

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-more-young-sherlock-holmes-young-indiana-jones/454349/11 "2008-06-26T22:32:44Z")

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Smallville, with Superman and Co as teenagers. (also I really recommend young Indiana Jones to folks that haven’t seen it. I believe its available on DVD now.)

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-more-young-sherlock-holmes-young-indiana-jones/454349/12 "2008-06-26T22:43:54Z")

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[QUOTE=Zsofia]  
Haven’t they been writing Teenage James Bond books or something?  
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I remember a “James Bond Junior” Tv-comic 15-20 years ago. But that might not be what you’re thinking about.

And that one doesn’t match the OP since it’s about Bonds relative.

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-more-young-sherlock-holmes-young-indiana-jones/454349/13 "2008-06-26T22:59:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Zsofia]  
Haven’t they been writing Teenage James Bond books or something?  
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Yes - Silverfin is one of them - written by Charlie Higson (A British actor known better for his comedy acting and writing for _The Fast Show_). I picked up a copy of it in a charity shop - it was kind of.. meh. But:  
-I’ve never read any of Fleming’s James Bond books  
-Silverfin is targeted at a younger readership.

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-more-young-sherlock-holmes-young-indiana-jones/454349/14 "2008-06-26T23:00:02Z")

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> **[SilverFin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SilverFin)**
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> SilverFin is the first novel in the Young Bond series that depicts Ian Fleming's superspy James Bond as a teenager in the 1930s. It was written by Charlie Higson and released in the United Kingdom on March 3, 2005 by Puffin Books in conjunction with a large marketing campaign; a Canadian release of the same edition occurred in late March. The United States edition, which was slightly edited for content, was released on April 27, 2005 by Miramax Books.
> SilverFin's success spawned a mobile game ...

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-more-young-sherlock-holmes-young-indiana-jones/454349/15 "2008-06-26T23:31:10Z")

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Well, Doyle already did some young Sherlock Holmes: “The Musgrave Ritual” and “The Gloria Scott” (I believe) are cases of Holmes’s when he was a lad.

The problem with young Holmes is that he wasn’t _raised_ to be a detective, like Indy was raised by an archaeologist father. The problem with young _anybody_ is you more or less cripple your ability to generate tension or alternate romantic interests; the reader already knows where the hero ends up.

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[QUOTE=WormTheRed]  
I remember a “James Bond Junior” Tv-comic 15-20 years ago. But that might not be what you’re thinking about.

And that one doesn’t match the OP since it’s about Bonds relative.  
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[singing] He learned the game from his Uncle James… now he’s heir… to the name: James Bond!

James Bond Jr. chases S.C.U.M… (James Bond Jr chases SCUM…) around the world!

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-more-young-sherlock-holmes-young-indiana-jones/454349/17 "2008-06-27T00:11:59Z")

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Noooooooooooooooooooooo. I did not need that song in my head now… please go away :mad:

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-more-young-sherlock-holmes-young-indiana-jones/454349/18 "2008-06-27T02:15:23Z")

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Wasn’t there a young MacGuyver series around some eons ago?

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-more-young-sherlock-holmes-young-indiana-jones/454349/19 "2008-06-27T02:27:23Z")

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Arguably, Cecil DeMille’s THE TEN COMMANDMENTS (at least the first two hours or so) is about young Moses. And full of in-jokes (wink, wink at the audience who knows what’s going to happen, although Charleton Heston’s Moses doesn’t.)

There’s also [YOUNG MR LINCOLN](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032155/) (1939) by John Ford with Henry Fonda in the title role. Does that count?

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2008, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-more-young-sherlock-holmes-young-indiana-jones/454349/20 "2008-06-27T02:43:09Z")

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There is Wicked, currently on brodway showing what happend in OZ when the witches were in college.  
Actually, I generally don’t like people who do this, especially if it is someone else’s story. Young Sherlock Holmes offends me much more than Young Indy.

Although I do like the opening sequence in Indy III.

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