# Why no one cares about global warming.

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [April 23, 2015, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337 "2015-04-23T04:05:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/201 "2015-04-30T17:23:39Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> It’s not just that most wealthy people create way more carbon than everyone else, live in large houses, fly all over, live wonderful lives based on carbon fuels, while telling us it’s wrong, that it’s killing the earth. it’s so much more than that.
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> It’s that they don’t actually act like there is a problem.

Tell you what, look at the link of the plug-in cars that was helpfully linked early and realize that more and more are putting their money were their mouth is. And many of the ones getting hybrid cars are also helping.

But once again, we already know that you did agree \*\*that that is not the main way to make a big change. \*\*

For the umpteenth time, what you are complaining about is as silly as telling a member of the old British Parliament that they were hypocrites because they were still dirtying the river Thames.

Their real worth was by working for new laws, regulations, funding and planning for systems that all had to be paid at the beginning and maintained later. (\*\* And that includes those members of parliament \*\*. That they were also going to be affected was a given to them.

It is really silly to demand all to be pure before a big change, many do understand that the sacrifice will come right at the time of the change and later, and they are not afraid to face the consequences of that change.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/202 "2015-04-30T18:54:05Z")

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Well, I read on tah Bookface that my niece and many others sez that the CA drought was preventable and man made, there is no such thing as overpopulation of the world, and and vaccines are the devil.  
They must be right since they are so vocal.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/203 "2015-04-30T23:39:58Z")

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Setting aside the ignorance being promulgated and fought in this thread, there’s a free online 7 week course on climate denialism being offered at the University of Queensland, Australia. It makes use of inoculation theory, a method of communicating science when the underlying topic is socially contentious. I think the course is self paced, but I haven’t signed up for it yet. The course started on April 28th. I hope to attend it.

Introductory You tube vid, which I haven’t viewed:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ujulBodWI3I/hqdefault.jpg "UQx DENIAL101x 0.1.1.1 Welcome to the course") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujulBodWI3I)

Think progress article:  
[http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/04/30/3652549/climate-denial-debunking-101/](http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/04/30/3652549/climate-denial-debunking-101/)

Recommendation by Dr. Phil Plait, aka The Bad Astronomer, an active poster here before he was a professional blogger:

> **[Making Sense of Nonsense: A MOOC About Climate Change Denial](https://slate.com/technology/2015/04/climate-change-an-online-course-to-teach-reality.html)**
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> The Earth is warming up. The climate is changing. Human activity is responsible.

Course website:

> **[Making Sense of Climate Science Denial](https://www.edx.org/course/making-sense-of-climate-science-denial)**
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> Climate change is real, so why the controversy and debate? Learn to make sense of the science and to respond to climate change denial.

I’d like to take the time to attend this course mostly because the topic of persuasion fascinates me.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/204 "2015-04-30T23:45:04Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> Setting aside the ignorance being promulgated and fought in this thread, there’s a free online 7 week course on climate denialism being offered at the University of Queensland, Australia.

You need a course to learn how to deny climate? No wonder them climate deniers are so bad at their denial of climate.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/205 "2015-05-01T05:24:34Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> I’d like to take the time to attend this course mostly because the topic of persuasion fascinates me.

I’ve finished most of week 1. The short videos were entertaining. The interface is a little clunky, though I’ve seen a lot worse. But vids are time consuming relative to the written word. Maybe I should poke around the lead professor’s website. [Link: Skeptical Science](http://www.skepticalscience.com/).  
97% of all climate scientists accept the consensus on global warming, while about 70% of TV presentations show both sides of the issue. It’s sort of like inviting a moon hoaxer to comment on a NASA launch for balance, or maybe inviting a flat earther every time there’s a plane crash or discussion of shipping.  
To be fair, the prestige media does a better job of informing their readers, at least since 2006.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/206 "2015-05-01T05:41:11Z")

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“the lead professor’s website”

Hahahahaha! Now that was funny.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/207 "2015-05-01T05:45:56Z")

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> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#):
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> Since you don’t understand my position it is complete logical that you find it nonsense.

On this, we agree.

> [@](#):
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> Of course ONE SINGLE PERSON cannot fight AGW, no matter what they do.  
> However, if you tell me that AGW is the most important problem of humanity and you tell me that we all need to our part because if all of us get together we can do a lot to help AND THEN you buy 4 Hummers to take your kids to the park two blocks away it detracts from your moral position.

This sounds like what I was describing. You think because someone doesn’t bike to work, they don’t think global warming is serious. If you have a big family, you may need a large car. That doesn’t mean you don’t want to fight climate change, it means electric vans aren’t there yet.

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> It doesn’t of course, negate the scientific and/or aconomic merits of your position. It’s like those “family values” politicians that get caught with prostitutes. In itself it doesn’t affect family values or whether they matter or not, but you need a new face.

Why, because Al Gore travels via jet instead of hitchiking? That’s a nonsense objection. Who in particular are you castigating here? Anyone that takes a jet? That’s just silly, because 1. No one in any power wants to outlaw jets. 2. The modern world requires important people to fly places.

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> I haven’t mentioned Al Gore, but anyone who thinks “Al Gore taking a flight on a jet aircraft is proof that climate change isn’t real” is ignorant and stupid.

Agreed. Then why bring up:

> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#):
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> Of course, the real question posited in the OP and that many are trying to skirt is why people who fully beleive in AGW and fully believe very bad things will happen and fully believe that we can do something about it end up doing very little in their personal lifestyles to mitigate AGW.

It’s nothing but a nonsense objection. And it’s based on a shallow imagining of what someone who wants action of climate change does in his own life. It’s not a profound point, it’s a distraction based on incomplete information.

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> The (in)validity of AGW does not in any way depend on the personal/mora/economic/polluting actions of anyone in the discussion (BTW if the owner of [www.superclimatedenier-CO2rules.com](http://www.superclimatedenier-CO2rules.com) buys solar panesl it doesn’t change the (in)validity of any point he makes)

Agreed. So why bring it up?

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/208 "2015-05-01T07:00:13Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> I’d like to take the time to attend this course mostly because the topic of persuasion fascinates me.

Thanks for the links, I’ll have a look. If you have access to the _New Scientist_ online archives, you might be interested in checking out the issue of the week of October 29 - November 4, 2011. It’s a special report called “Unscientific America”, subtitle “A dangerous retreat from reason”. One article especially relevant in the context of climate change denial is called “Selling the Truth”. Its premise is that “opponents of science are experts at winning the battle for hearts and minds”, but there’s a lot of other discussion about why there is so much denial in American society of established scientific facts, AGW being certainly the foremost.

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**Author:** ![jezzaOZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a9a28c/32.png) [@jezzaOZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jezzaOZ)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/209 "2015-05-01T08:27:42Z")

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[Philomena Cunk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EZMkNSWdxo) cares about global warning, and that’s good enough for me!

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**Author:** ![Chief\_Pedant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@Chief\_Pedant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chief_Pedant)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/210 "2015-05-01T11:42:38Z")

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No future public crisis rises to the level of extracting current personal sacrifice.

This is the tragedy of the commons.

Nearly everyone cares about global warming. They care about unclothed, unfed, brutalized children as well.

All of the Great Causes have general support because our human nature includes altruism along with narcissism.

To assuage the hypocrisy that we will personally continue to live richly despite the putative longer-term AGW consequence, we choose a variety of approaches.

1. Live richly; suggest broad sweeping ameliorations which, until implemented, leave us living richly. (Al Gore; )
2. Live richly; ridicule the idea that humans are very good at predictions (Chief Pedant; Fox News?)
3. Live richly; earnestly pursue and promote the Science (your\_name\_here)
4. Live richly; Preach it Brother! about the coming crisis and the stupidity of the ostriches
5. Live richly; purchase indulgences such as carbon credits

…etc

It is way too intoxicating to not get caught up in a Great Cause, either by promoting it or fighting it.

We are just not going to personally sacrifice our for a putative greater good for humanity down the road. The personal consequence of current sacrifice is not proximate enough.

We have borrowed trillions from our children in support of living richly. We are chewing up the earth in a thousand ways beyond carbon output. The unborn billions coming online will do the same.

Not because we do not care enough to sacrifice, but because we do not trust everyone else to sacrifice to the same extent.

This is the tragedy of the commons.

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**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/211 "2015-05-01T14:58:35Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> 97% of all climate scientists accept the consensus on global warming, while about 70% of TV presentations show both sides of the issue.

Two things.

1. Most sceptics (aka deniers) would also have agreed with the two (yes, only two) questions from which the fable 97% comes.

2. The 97% comes from 75 positive answers out of 77 scientists. Not quite a representative sample.

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> This sounds like what I was describing. You think because someone doesn’t bike to work, they don’t think global warming is serious. If you have a big family, you may need a large car. That doesn’t mean you don’t want to fight climate change, it means electric vans aren’t there yet.

Not quite. It’s more of the excess rather than the lack of action. You got 5 kids? Get a van, sure. (Mitsubishi has an Outlander PHEV that looks great, and, of course the Audi Q7 e-tron PHEV is sick). I’m more against getting a V8 F150 to go to Starbucks alone. But, at least get some CFLs, turn off some lights; show me that you care even if it’s in the small stuff.

> [@](#):
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> Why, because Al Gore travels via jet instead of hitchiking? That’s a nonsense objection. Who in particular are you castigating here? Anyone that takes a jet? That’s just silly, because 1. No one in any power wants to outlaw jets. 2. The modern world requires important people to fly places.

Again, I haven’t mentioned Al Gore. Evidently, AG has to take a private plane to some places and it may even be the most sensible solution. But, say, sending the plane back home to bring his lucky USB would be wrong. Taking a private jet to fly alone from NYC to DC in a non-emergency would be wrong. Like Bono having a hat sent by plane.

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> Agreed. Then why bring up:

more like, “show me that you care” than anthing else. At least go through the motions. It’s really a minor thing, though.

> [@](#):
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> It’s nothing but a nonsense objection. And it’s based on a shallow imagining of what someone who wants action of climate change does in his own life. It’s not a profound point, it’s a distraction based on incomplete information.
> 
> Agreed. So why bring it up?

I’ll retract any statrement that distract from my bigger point: At least do something.

> [@Chief\_Pedant](#):
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> No future public crisis rises to the level of extracting current personal sacrifice.
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> This is the tragedy of the commons.

Amen

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/212 "2015-05-01T15:07:31Z")

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> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#):
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> Two things.
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> 1. Most sceptics (aka deniers) would also have agreed with the two (yes, only two) questions from which the fable 97% comes.
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> 2. The 97% comes from 75 positive answers out of 77 scientists. Not quite a representative sample.

As usual it is important for contrarians to ignore other past and recent research to confuse an issue like that.

> **[The 97% consensus on global warming](https://skepticalscience.com/global-warming-scientific-consensus-advanced.htm)**
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> \<p\>That humans are causing global warming is the position of the Academies of Science from 19 countries plus many scientific organizations that study climate science. More specifically, around 95% of active climate researchers actively publishing...

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> Our approach was also similar to that taken by James Powell, as illustrated in the popular graphic below. Powell examined nearly 14,000 abstracts, searching for explicit rejections of human-caused global warming, finding only 24. We took this approach further, also looking at implicit rejections, no opinions, and implicit/explicit endorsements.

> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#):
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> Amen

[George Carlin]And aWoman [/GC]

O course, like effort like this shows the issue remains, Jefferson was right by warning us that ignorance would undermine a nation. And in this case, not just the USA.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/213 "2015-05-01T15:32:46Z")

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I care, and act to counter warming. Global warming, regional climate change, erosion, water pollution, and many other “causes”, I do shit about it, and before I logged on today I quickly painted part of my black roof white. (pics if you don’t believe it) Part of it, because I am an old fuck, and also money. It cost a lot of money. But mostly because I’m old. And the sun got above the trees, and I had to stop for now. Hence the quickly part.

This is absolute shit work, a hot dirty roof, back breaking shit, up and down the ladder, in a hurry before the sun gets to the area, cleaning, painting, then clean up, and now online. This will make my life under the roof cooler, keep my yard and house cooler, and as the energy secretary said,

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> NEW YORK ([CNNMoney.com](http://CNNMoney.com)) – America should attack global warming by … painting rooftops and road surfaces white.

Seriously. No kidding.

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> Among those promoting the idea is Energy Secretary Steven Chu, a big-thinking physicist who has a bully pulpit and influence over billions in research and stimulus funds.
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> Chu spoke about the idea at a London conference last month while Congress was busy hashing out a complex, 1,400-page bill to cut greenhouse gases.
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> **Whitening the world’s roofs and roads would have the same effect on global warming as removing all the world’s cars for 11 years** , he said.

> **[Chu says white roofs save energy, address global warming - Jul. 13, 2009](https://money.cnn.com/2009/07/13/news/economy/white_roofs/?postversion=2009071313)**
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> A novel idea to lighten up the country's roads and roofs from Obama's top energy advisor could actually save lots of money, and highlights an increasingly proactive post.

I painted my last roof white in 2010 after I first heard about it. Yeah, white tiles would be nicer, but it’s really expensive to re-tile just to get it white. [But I actually like the look](https://www.google.com/maps/@26.121393,-80.11063,3a,37.5y,348.48h,86.58t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sYazxPPam2sy5PrwOMfZwoA!2e0).

You know how many other people painted their roofs in my area? None. I know because google shows it.

How about the new neighborhood? None. People won’t even pick white shingles when paying for a new roof. They “don’t like the way it looks”. I’m not kidding. The hundreds of dollars in savings on AC each year does not matter to them.

People just do not care

They don’t want trees, they don’t want white roofs, they are idiots. Tell em it will help cool the area? They could give two fucks.  
It’s maddening. For added irony, a lot of people think I am a denier of science, because I am skeptical of the claims made about climate change. And yet I am the one up on the roof this morning painting my new roof white.

Hilarious.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/214 "2015-05-01T15:37:52Z")

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“New” meaning new to me. The roof is not “new”. An added bonus of painting it, besides the energy saving and cooling of the entire yard, is it will last about ten years longer, by blocking the sun and rain damage to the shingles.

But try and get somebody to do it? Good luck. Roofs should be white, or better yet, covered with solar panels. The only black part of a roof should be the solar water heating area.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/215 "2015-05-01T16:15:36Z")

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So, of course there are people that do care, but repeated attempts to undermine science and the efforts that are made to make a very significant change, points actually to those efforts of undermining as having a mostly political reason. As we have seen, huge bones of doubt (debunked to dead many times) are constantly tossed to the mostly rank and file Republicans that do think that nothing is going to happen.

Too many of the contrarian peers and friends need to be supported about the unfounded scepticism they have, it is troublesome for the social life of many loud contrarians that do claim to have an understanding of the problem to suddenly despair and wonder why they have to help support those contrarian friends.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/216 "2015-05-01T16:41:54Z")

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If the people talking about doing something, actually did what they want everybody else to do, it would certainly help. Like making that hot roof white. Like the [White House roof](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Washington,+DC/@38.897517,-77.0365204,89m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x89b7c6de5af6e45b:0xc2524522d4885d2a). But the people preaching don’t seem to actually do anything, which makes people not care.

Of course some people [actually do change things](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Washington,+DC/@38.8863098,-77.0259626,178m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x89b7c6de5af6e45b:0xc2524522d4885d2a). Of everybody in the world actually did something, like whitening the artificial heat trapping surfaces we create, it would be huge. Simply huge.

But if it costs a dime, or they have to actually lift a finger, forget about it.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/217 "2015-05-01T16:53:55Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> If the people talking about doing something, actually did what they want everybody else to do, it would certainly help. Like making that hot roof white. Like the [White House roof](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Washington,+DC/@38.897517,-77.0365204,89m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x89b7c6de5af6e45b:0xc2524522d4885d2a). But the people preaching don’t seem to actually do anything, which makes people not care.

Obama has put solar panels, exactly the other option you mentioned. (Not the whole roof, as there are security concerns about covering all the roof with them, and it is very likely that that is also one reason why white paint is not used also).

> **[The Roof of the White House](https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2014/05/09/roof-white-house)**
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> Take a behind-the-scenes look at the solar panels on the White House roof, and learn more about the new public- and private-sector commitments that organizations have made to advance solar deployment and invest in energy efficiency.

> [@](#):
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> But it’s not just the White House that’s going solar.
> 
> Earlier today, President Obama announced that more than 300 organizations in the public and private sector have made commitments to advance the deployment of solar power and invest in energy efficiency.
> 
> These new commitments mean thousands of homes will go solar in the next few years, and electricity bills will be lower for more than 1 billion square feet of buildings.
> 
> Simply put, solar panels mean less carbon pollution, and more jobs for Americans – jobs that can’t be outsourced. They’re good for our energy future, and they’re good for our economy.
> 
> Last year, jobs in the solar industry increased by 20 percent. And a new American home or business goes solar every four minutes.

But as always what people do will not stop you from ignoring what you yourself claimed too.

But this demonstrates that once again the opposition to the changes come mostly from political reasons.

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**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/218 "2015-05-01T17:00:43Z")

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When you see the government actually doing what they want everyone else to do, then people might believe them.

But considering politicians in general, it’s doubtful most people will ever trust them.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/219 "2015-05-01T17:05:15Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> When you see the government actually doing what they want everyone else to do, then people might believe them.
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> But considering politicians in general, it’s doubtful most people will ever trust them.

:rolleyes:

Sure, not even a link to video of the solar panels being added to the WH roof will do it.

And one of the big problems now is that there is a good chunk of the people that **are trusting** the Republicans (that had their campaigns financed in large part by the fossil fuel industry) on the denial that is being made.

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**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2015, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/220 "2015-05-01T18:07:28Z")

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> [@FXMastermind](#):
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> If “fixing it” means “everybody in the entire world has to stop or reduce producing CO2”, there is no fixing it.  
> Plant trees.

Drought.

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