# Why no one cares about global warming. **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 23, 2015, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337 "2015-04-23T04:05:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2015, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/101 "2015-04-26T16:22:42Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > I still want to know how one can get wealthy by being a denier that climate changes. Or by saying fossil fuels can’t change anything. Or even if they do, it will be good for the planet. > > How does that turn into piles of money? What is the mechanism for it? First you become a scientist, you also completely let your ideology triumph the evidence you find and what other scientists are finding, you also get into an important position in an institution. Then thanks to your doubts they contact or you contact the [del]stink[/del] think thanks like the Marshall, Heartland and other right wing institutions funded in large part by fossil fuel groups or individuals. See the money flow to your account. For the think thanks and fossil fuel interests Doubt is their product and as Willie Soon showed (before and still we have Pat Michaels, Roy Spencer and a few others that are always trotted with their “evidence” when discussions like this one happen) > **[Right-Wing Media Rush To Defend Industry-Funded Climate Denier Willie Soon](https://www.mediamatters.org/breitbart-news/right-wing-media-rush-defend-industry-funded-climate-denier-willie-soon)** > [@](#): > > Documents obtained by Greenpeace and the Climate Investigations Center detail the extensive and problematic relationship between the fossil fuel industry and Soon, one of the contrarian scientists often cited by prominent climate science deniers like Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK). The documents reveal that Soon described many of his scientific papers, which largely focus on the claim that the sun is primarily responsible for recent global warming, as “deliverables” produced in exchange for money from fossil fuel interests. The revelations, which were recently covered by several media outlets, reveal a potentially serious breach of scientific ethics in at least eight of the papers Soon has published since 2008, and the Smithsonian Institution has directed the organization’s Inspector General to investigate Soon’s ethical conduct. > [@](#): > > While Breitbart would have readers believe that Soon has produced “impeccable science,” Soon’s research has been thoroughly panned by climate scientists for its flaws. His argument that solar activities are primarily responsible for climate change is widely rejected and conflicts with the overwhelming scientific consensus than human activities are to blame. As the head of the Goddard Institute for Space Studies Gavin Schmidt noted, the sun likely accounts for at most 10 percent of recent global warming, meaning that “[t]he science that Willie Soon does is almost pointless.” > > It has become increasingly clear that the only point of Soon’s research is to “deliver” on climate science denial for his fossil fuel benefactors. > **[Leak exposes how Heartland Institute works to undermine climate science](https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2012/feb/15/leak-exposes-heartland-institute-climate)** > > Libertarian thinktank keeps prominent sceptics on its payroll and relies on millions in funding from carbon industry, papers suggest > [@](#): > > The documents posted on Desmog’s website include confidential memos of Heartland’s climate science denial strategy, its 2012 budget and fundraising plan, and minutes from a recent board meeting. > > The fundraising plan suggests Heartland is hoping for a banner year, projecting it will raise $7.7m in 2012, up 70% from last year. > > The papers indicate that discrediting established climate science remains a core mission of the organisation, which has received support from a network of wealthy individuals – including the Koch oil billionaires as well as corporations such as Microsoft and RJR Tobacco. > > The documents confirm what environmental groups such as Greenpeace have long suspected: that Heartland itself is a major source of funding to a network of experts and bloggers who have been prominent in the campaign to discredit established science. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2015, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/102 "2015-04-26T16:28:26Z")
If Al Gore is a total hypocrite, does that lower the temperature any? All those scientists who sign on to global warming concern, if you show them that Al Gore is a hypocrite, do they suddenly change their minds? And money? Ask yourself, suppose a middlingly respected scientist announces a new wrinkle in climate research, one that very well might prove AGW is the bunk, if only he had enough money for his research…how many seconds after he puts the phone down will his check arrive? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2015, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/103 "2015-04-26T16:34:04Z")
> [@Grotonian](#): > > I already did my bit for the environment when I was a little kid in the 70’s and Jimmy Carter made my parents put me in a sweater and turn our thermostat down to 68. That is nice, have you ever heard about the idea of “eternal vigilance”? The fact is that many organizations and powerful groups that are seeding doubt appeared recently and are poisoning the debate. [snip] > [@Grotonian](#): > > If global warming isn’t pressing enough for Obama to fly commercial, or Al Gore to turn off his A/C and open a window, do you really expect me to let a giant fountain pop sweat all over my car interior? That shit’s messy! And you only ignore the most important point, most of the change will have to come from regulations from government and industry (the industrialists that do worry about the issue, it is clear that the majority are not willing to drive into the abyss as the fossil fuel money men) so then it will be the small increase in cost that will be shared by all. As the example of how the modern cities got their sewage system shows, it is really ridiculous to expect that the ones proposing the changes should be shamed when they are still contaminating the river or to claim that that is a reason to ignore what needs to be done. What did happen is that after the changes were done the wealthy and the elite people did pay more than the poor people to get clean water and sewage to almost all the people. > [@Grotonian](#): > > Global warming doesn’t concern anyone, except for the Roseanne Roseannadannas for whom “it’s always something.” Nonsense, the “it’s always something” crowd are the ones that always come with silly excuses to continue voting for the ones that are allied with the fossil fuel interests that do not care if we drive off the cliff. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2015, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/104 "2015-04-26T16:40:13Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > If Al Gore is a total hypocrite, does that lower the temperature any? All those scientists who sign on to global warming concern, if you show them that Al Gore is a hypocrite, do they suddenly change their minds? > > And money? Ask yourself, suppose a middlingly respected scientist announces a new wrinkle in climate research, one that very well might prove AGW is the bunk, if only he had enough money for his research…how many seconds after he puts the phone down will his check arrive? As I noticed, it is not necessary that the scientist goes that far, I have seen many times that just by claiming that the effects of humans using the atmosphere as a sewer will be minimal your bank account gets better. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2015, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/105 "2015-04-26T17:46:05Z")
> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#): > > There’s at least 10 times more money being made by talking (and exagerating) about AGW tan by denying it. I see. No doubt you have an authoritative cite for that. [This peer-reviewed study](http://phys.org/news/2013-12-koch-brothers-reveals-funders-climate.html) traced 140 foundations making 5,299 grants totaling $558 million to 91 political advocacy organizations from 2003 to 2010 for the express purpose of climate change denial. I’d be very interested in seeing the credible data on which you base your claim, which I presume must show at least $5.58 billion being spent on political advocacy organizations that “exaggerate” AGW. Also let us know on which planet or alternate universe this is happening. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2015, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/106 "2015-04-26T17:57:27Z")
> [@](#): > > Last summer, a minority staff report from the U.S. Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works gave details on a “Billionaire’s Club” — a shadowy network of charitable foundations that distribute billions to advance climate alarmism. Shadowy nonprofits such as the Energy Foundation and Tides Foundation distributed billions to far-left green groups such as the Natural Resources Defense Council, which in turn send staff to the EPA who then direct federal grants back to the same green groups. It is incestuous. It is opaque. Major media ignored the report. [http://www.nationalreview.com/article/414359/global-warming-follow-money-henry-payne](http://www.nationalreview.com/article/414359/global-warming-follow-money-henry-payne) And yep, there is an actual report. > **[U.S. Senate: Request not Accepted - Security Risk Detected](https://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/general/one_item_and_teasers/waf.htm)** > > Request not Accepted - Security Risk Detected So the US Senate says billions are being spent on the global warming alarmism side. Who would have ever thought? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2015, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/107 "2015-04-26T18:35:47Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > [http://www.nationalreview.com/article/414359/global-warming-follow-money-henry-payne](http://www.nationalreview.com/article/414359/global-warming-follow-money-henry-payne) > > And yep, there is an actual report. > [http://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&FileStore\_id=8af3d005-1337-4bc3-bcd6-be947c523439](http://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&FileStore_id=8af3d005-1337-4bc3-bcd6-be947c523439) > > So the US Senate says billions are being spent on the global warming alarmism side. Who would have ever thought? That was the minority report, (in other words, the Republican shrills) but thank you for confirming my suspicions of where you are coming from. And when National Review calls Willie Soon a “top climate scientist” they lose any credibility. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2015, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/108 "2015-04-26T18:43:51Z")
Among the ones that worked for that minority report was David Vitter: > [@](#): > > [Senate Report Alleges 'Billionaire's Club' Conspiring to Help The Environment | HuffPost Impact](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-coleman/senate-report-alleges-bil_b_5656554.html) > Despite a lack of good grammar, the Vitter’s “Billionaire’s club” report represents a significant amount of government time and energy. It tracks donations from major environmental foundations to various non-profits, like the Natural Resources Defense Council and the Environmental Defense Fund. It has tables and graphs. But as Lee Fang points out, it is missing some important context: > > > [@](#): > > > > ``` > > "Though the report scolds the nonprofits as untrustworthy and elite, there's virtually no information in the report that details anything they have done wrong. Rather, Vitter and his staff appear to disagree with the shared policy goals of these nonprofits, which include combating global warming as well as reducing cancer-causing pollutants from the air and water." > > > > ``` > > Rather than a tool for open government, Vitter’s Billionaire’s Club report seems more like a distraction from the real billionaires in politics, major corporations and industrialists, with whose agenda David Vitter is strongly aligned. > [@](#): > > Interestingly, Vitter has ties to his own billionaires club, specifically the billionaire Koch Brothers. Sen. Vitter has vociferously supported the Billionaires, and was caught on camera saying: > > “I think the Koch Brothers are two of the most patriotic Americans in the history of the Earth… I’ll be honest with you, God bless the Koch brothers.” > > According to ThinkProgress, the Koch brothers have blessed Senator Vitter right back. A review of campaign contributions finds that he and his leadership PAC have received at least $57,500 from the Koch brothers’ corporate political action committee - the same PAC that has been repeatedly accused of breaking elections laws surrounding money contributions. Besides the Koch brothers, Senator Vitter’s largest political contributors are billionaire oil and gas interests. > [@](#): > > If the Senate was interested in uncovering secretive funding apparatus bent on twisting government policy to the detriment of people and their future, perhaps a look into climate change denial organizations would be a better use of tax dollars. A report by Drexel University’s Robert Brulle found that 140 foundations funneled $558 million to almost 100 climate denial organizations from 2003 to 2010. This dwarfs most of the numbers used in Vitter’s Billionaire’s club report. However, Vitter has called climate change science “ridiculous pseudo-science garbage.” Perhaps Vitter and his staff should read Greenpeace’s report on Koch funding of climate change denial, if he is so interested in secretive manipulations of politics. It could also give them some pointers on style. > > See the PolluterWatch page on David Vitter’s Billionaire’s Club report on environmental funding for more information. It is a nice racket, the ones in the pockets of the fossil fuel men seek evidence form the fossil fuel paid scientists and think thanks. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2015, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/109 "2015-04-26T18:51:08Z")
So the story about making tons of money by denial is only true for a few scientists. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2015, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/110 "2015-04-26T19:19:16Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > So the story about making tons of money by denial is only true for a few scientists. Basically, but I would think that there are scientists that do become popular and get more funding, but as it is clear to me (and my basic training is in social studies and history with a slice of technology and computers) history has shown already examples of how scientists that do break bad are not really unprecedented, there are several that benefited from supporting creationism and tobacco causing cancer denial for example. Some like Dr Seitz and Roy Spencer did like it so much that they worked for one of those 2 of those denial groups in the past and present, besides the current flavor of denial. The point that should not be missed is that there can be a benefit for the side that is proposing change, but as pointed before the ones that proposed that we should not have clean water or a sewage system (some of those were literally working to push shit) had their own interests to protect but they were on the wrong side of history, back then even “hypocrite” politicians that had also dirty ways of dealing with the refuse found that they had to ignore the naysayers and do the right thing. That there are groups that will benefit by the change should be welcomed news for proponents of free enterprise, but somehow many conservatives seem to forget that, and it really has to be blamed on ideology and partisanship. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2015, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/111 "2015-04-26T19:39:28Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > So the US Senate says billions are being spent on the global warming alarmism side. Who would have ever thought? The “US Senate”? 😃 For those who may not know the obvious backstory here, it would be instructive to look up who the chairman of the Senate Committee on Environment & Public Works is. Why, goodness gracious, it’s none other than James Inhofe, the Senator from Oklahoma who has been called the most incredible imbecile to ever infest the halls of Congress, author of such quotable gems as “manmade global warming is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people” and “only Jesus can change the climate”. Inhofe has been a dominant influence in E&PW for many years and has managed to turn it into a discreditable and embarrassing cesspool of climate change denialism for ages solely because of his zealous activism. So what we have is the National Review – a right-wing rag in its own right – offering its hilariously lunatic interpretation of an Inhofe propaganda piece that somehow tries to equate **funding scientific research** with “lying about climate change”. I cited a _ **peer-reviewed study** _ that traced hundreds of millions of dollars directly to climate change denialism funding, which pays [shills like these](http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/11/28/meet-the-climate-denial-machine/191545). I asked the other poster for equivalent _ **credible** _ data that there is funding for “exaggerating” the other side. What we got was a steaming pile of such utter nonsense that it seems to prove the old adage that some people have no shame at all. ---
**Author:** ![FXMastermind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fxmastermind/32/7289_2.png) [@FXMastermind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FXMastermind)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2015, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/112 "2015-04-26T20:00:51Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I cited a _ **peer-reviewed study** _ Doesn’t it just suck that nobody cares? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2015, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/113 "2015-04-26T20:32:54Z")
> [@FXMastermind](#): > > Doesn’t it just suck that nobody cares? It was shown already that that is not the case and even just about the majority of Republicans think that government should be doing more. What I do think is that eventually, once the powers that be can not follow just the tune of the fossil fuel men, that then the corporate media will be unleashed and make this issue like the Republicans encountered in 2012 about being the “rape” party. The Republican field is full of contrarian misinformation and eventually they will sound like the fools they are. It may not happen even in this coming election cycle, but just like what happened with prohibition the Republicans will eventually fall hard thanks to this and several other issues that deal with science and human welfare. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2015, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/114 "2015-04-27T01:06:19Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > It was shown already that that is not the case and even just about the majority of Republicans think that government should be doing more. No you have not shown that. I on the other hand have shown the purchase decisions made by the public are the exact opposite. Sales are in decline for the environmentally superior cars. But again, it doesn’t matter. When battery technology catches up people will switch over for the savings automatically. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2015, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/115 "2015-04-27T01:38:18Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > No you have not shown that. I on the other hand have shown the purchase decisions made by the public are the exact opposite. Sales are in decline for the environmentally superior cars. 😕 You are really doubling down on that? Please look carefully, the number of sales from the first months of 2015 are larger than the numbers of the respective months of 2014 > [@Magiver](#): > > But again, it doesn’t matter. Actually it does because it shows to all that you do not pay attention, as you usually do. > [@Magiver](#): > > When battery technology catches up people will switch over for the savings automatically. Again, for mistaken practical reasons you are then seeking to delay a concerted efforts to control emissions by assigning a price to carbon emissions and accelerating that change. The only thing you are doing is to make more likely that other bad effects. And this is besides the observed ocean rise and changes in the mid latitude weather that will get worse thanks to the CO2 that will be realized until then. No, it is still asking to be penny wise, and pound foolish. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2015, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/116 "2015-04-27T02:36:36Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > I have to also comment here, care to look at those plug-in car numbers again? Not surprising to say, but you are also wrong there. last time I checked 16,827 was less than 20,887 -------------------------2015 2014 Tesla Model S----------4700 5184 Nissan LEAF------------4085 3606 Toyota Prius PHV------ 1271 3296 Chevy Volt-------------1874 3606 Ford Fusion Energi-----1866 2211 Ford C-Max Energi------1608 1633 Ford Focus Electric-----370 397 Chevrolet Spark EV------356 272 Smart ED----------------326 405 Cadillac ELR -----------311 180 Honda Accord PHV---------45 69 Mitsubishi I MiEV--------15 28 TOTALS--------------16827 20887 ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2015, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/117 "2015-04-27T02:42:00Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Again, for mistaken practical reasons you are then seeking to delay a concerted efforts to control emissions by assigning a price to carbon emissions and accelerating that change. I’m doing nothing of the sort. I’m saying nobody cares. The natural course of technology is going to achieve your goal in spite of your efforts. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2015, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/118 "2015-04-27T02:44:09Z")
:smack: So you are **indeed** looking at just 3 months of this year and comparing it with the total of 2014… What year is this again? To be fair with the data one has to compare the first 3 months of 2014 with the 3 months of 2015, the only thing you are showing is classic climate change denier math. Oh well, I guess you are indeed happy of showing all that time lines are a big blind spot for many conservatives. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2015, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/119 "2015-04-27T02:51:15Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > I’m doing nothing of the sort. I’m saying nobody cares. The natural course of technology is going to achieve your goal in spite of your efforts. And where do I complain about it? The point stands, even if that is so and many times it was my point too in the past, there are a lot of costs that will come just by the ocean rise that will be seen by following a low emissions scenario, what I see as usual is that there is a lot of effort in protecting the ones that should pay more for the change and the adaptations that will be needed to be made. And you really have troubles at looking at data, but that is what many misinformers out there are counting that many conservatives will fall for. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2015, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337/120 "2015-04-27T03:01:04Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > :smack: > > So you are **indeed** looking at just 3 months of this year and comparing it with the total of 2014… > . yes, that’s how it work when you compare sales trends. And they’re down. Given the miniscule sales of these cars that’s a bad thing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-no-one-cares-about-global-warming/718337.md?page=7)