# Why not Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand for President in the 2020 Democratic Primary? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 14, 2018, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-not-sen-kirsten-gillibrand-for-president-in-the-2020-democratic-primary/824508 "2018-11-14T15:21:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-not-sen-kirsten-gillibrand-for-president-in-the-2020-democratic-primary/824508/121 "2019-01-22T17:12:14Z")
not sure I get Al Franken as some sort of saint but seems he is to a lot of people. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-not-sen-kirsten-gillibrand-for-president-in-the-2020-democratic-primary/824508/122 "2019-01-22T17:16:36Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > not sure I get Al Franken as some sort of saint but seems he is to a lot of people. It’s very disappointing to me, but it’s still not terribly surprising that so many still find themselves unable to blame a man for misbehavior, if they like that man, but rather must blame those women who are critical of them. It’s entirely Franken’s fault that Franken is no longer a Senator (and he was my favorite Senator for many years). No one else’s fault but him. His own bad behavior; not anyone else’s. ---
**Author:** ![Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/aca169/32.png) [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inbred_Mm_domesticus)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-not-sen-kirsten-gillibrand-for-president-in-the-2020-democratic-primary/824508/123 "2019-01-22T17:26:56Z")
It’s pretty simple, I don’t think Franken did anything worth having the will of Minnesota’s voters overturned without some sort of trial or hearing. We can all have differences of opinion, and it doesn’t mean I think he’s a saint if I write in his name as a criticism of what I perceive is Gillibrand’s opportunism. Anyway, her support for s720 Anti Israel Boycott Act is just as troublesome. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-not-sen-kirsten-gillibrand-for-president-in-the-2020-democratic-primary/824508/124 "2019-01-22T17:43:38Z")
Franken chose to quit on his own before any hearing. Or did I miss some process where he was forced out at the point of a gun? ---
**Author:** ![Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/aca169/32.png) [@Inbred\_Mm\_domesticus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inbred_Mm_domesticus)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-not-sen-kirsten-gillibrand-for-president-in-the-2020-democratic-primary/824508/125 "2019-01-22T18:26:13Z")
If you require that it be at the point of a gun I am sure there is no chance of us having a productive conversation. Her poor explanation for supporting s720 and then removing her name is problematic. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-not-sen-kirsten-gillibrand-for-president-in-the-2020-democratic-primary/824508.md?page=6)