Why NOT to Marry

I get we’re into splitting hairs here but I thought it was I could happily marry any one of 10 women, but only one of them will be my “soul mate” & those other 9 will be good or even great but not the ‘bestest’.

No indeed, Shakespeare invented basically nothing. He rewrote good, though.

Shut up dude! I’m waiting to find out if she’s going to marry the broke but annoyingly charming rogue she’s been bickering with half the film (who probably has some hidden artistic ability or business plan he’s almost ready to share) or if she’ll stay with the conventionally handsome and successful guy she’s been with for years.

When I was younger and insecure, I dated a woman who spent a lot of time telling me about losing her “soul mate” with the implication that I would be “good enough” but never a replacement.

Why the fuck I stuck around with her for even a few months is something I look back and shake my head.

Shrug, I get it. I even agree with you that I don’t particularly like romcoms unless there is more comedy than romance. I will even say Hitch is one of my all time hated movies because it has the male lead apologising and making the big romantic gesture at the end of the movie, despite the fact that it is the female lead who as a journalist relied on only a single bad source to then use her job to try to destroy the male lead’s life and career as well as screwup many other people’s lives.

But, (and I am sure you knew this was coming), I think most genres are predictable. I think Romcoms, Family Films, Westerns, and Action films are all fairly formulaic. I even say that as someone who loves the other genres in that list.

I actually liked itch as far as rom-coms go.

I mean sure, like all rom coms, Hitch does fall into the trap where love excuses all manner of felonies, antisocial behavior, and destruction of private property, so long as you have that all-important heart to heart talk at the end to express your feelings.

But that sort of misses the point of the movie. To find true happiness with Sara, Hitch had to open up and show his true self as opposed to “managing” the relationship in the same sort of technical marketing campaign manner he runs with his clients. A point driven home by the fact that Allegra Cole fell in love with Alberts naturally doofyness and none of Hitch’s guidance worked at all.

I presume because you were having sex with her?

Wild, crazy sex because she was nuts, but Eventually the sex wasn’t worth the craziness.

Now I’m older, I would have less tolerance for the crazy.

Was that the Cockney remake?

LOL..I think that would be “Leap Year” with Amy Adams

Honestly, I think anyone who gets married for any reason other than wanting to put in the hard work of raising a family for the next 20+ years may be a bit delusional. Because unless one or both of you has so much money you don’t really need to worry about stuff and both of you have no plans to have kids, marriage is a lot of fucking work.

And whatever frustrating flaws or issues my wife has, at least they tend to manifest themselves as mostly positive outcomes (ie workaholism and micromanaging the kids, or constant anxiety about finances isn’t great but at least it results in kids doing homework, not spending as much on junk, and making more money). I think the worst has to be married with kids and having a spouse who is a lazy fuckup or a drunk / drug addict, spendthrift, or just an obnoxious psycho.

And often the other person’s traits can sort of gradually manifest over time themselves like a slowly boiling frog.

When did you meet my ex?

Some years ago, Virginia passed a law that essentially banned all attempts to simulate the benefits of marriage by setting up such contracts. I don’t think the law was ever appealed (may have been a constitutional amendment, even).

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the two women across the street from us sold their place and moved within a year. Moot now that same sex marriage is legal everywhere, of course - they could have just gotten married.

It amuses me that of the three sets of owners that house has had, two of the three could not have been legally married in our state just a few decades ago: 2 women, a white couple, and a black/white couple.

For us (hetero), we did pretty much all the things wrong. Met and committed very young (freshman year of college). Different religions. Married at 23. Never lived together before marrying. I think what saves us, nearly 43 years in, is that every day, we remind ourselves how profoundly lucky we are that the other person is in our lives. It didn’t hurt, early on, that my parents were opposed to the marriage and I was DAMNED if I’d let them be proven right :slight_smile:

Hm. I agree that having kids is a lot. A LOT. of work. Some of which can be interesting, and some of which is definitely drudgery. But I’ve never thought that marriage is that much work… Well, maybe it is sometimes, but it’s sort of like one of my hobbies? I might sink a lot of time/effort into it sometimes, but it’s usually fun effort, or in service of something else that will be fun (retirement planning: not fun, but presumably retirement will be), or else at least it’s more fun than doing it by myself.

On the other hand, I feel like we have a very relaxed marriage with rather low expectations of each other in a lot of ways, and people with more high-effort marriages seem to get a lot more done in their lives. We are basically the opposite of what I would describe as a power couple. On the third hand… I think for various reasons I would have had a very hard time with a marriage where there were more expectations placed on me.