# Why Obama Will Probably Lose
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [May 28, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352 "2012-05-28T15:50:16Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/1 "2012-05-28T15:50:16Z")
Ladies and gentlemen, the Republican base:
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUXDKnL4xGE)
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### Author:  [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2012, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/2 "2012-05-28T16:02:16Z")
:eek:
Holy guacamole, I couldn’t watch more than halfway through before my brain started melting and running out my ears.
And the scariest thing is that her name is legion.
ETA: Wouldn’t this thread be better suited to the Pit? It cries out for creative vituperation.
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2012, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/3 "2012-05-28T16:04:14Z")
This seems more like a Pitting than a debate topic. Moved to the BBQ Pit from Elections.
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### Author:  [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2012, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/4 "2012-05-28T16:07:41Z")
What a twit. And for the record, she does not represent the views of Christians everywhere. Only the idiots that make lots of noise about gay people.
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### Author:  [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/5 "2012-05-28T16:18:18Z")
So, are you suggesting Obama will lose because all the gays and lesbians will be locked up behind an electric fence and won’t make it to the polls?
Or what do you mean exactly?
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### Author:  [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2012, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/6 "2012-05-28T16:22:41Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> So, are you suggesting Obama will lose because all the gays and lesbians will be locked up behind an electric fence and won’t make it to the polls?
That, too.
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### Author:  [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2012, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/7 "2012-05-28T16:22:55Z")
I don’t understand. Just curious **Happy Lendervedder** do you go to church? How do you interpret the bible? Do you believe homosexuality is a sin? If not, why? Isn’t God pretty clear on it being a sin?
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### Author:  [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2012, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/8 "2012-05-28T16:24:19Z")
That creature is a extremist who does not represent the Repub base.
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### Author:  [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2012, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/9 "2012-05-28T16:29:09Z")
1. OP, what’s your evidence that that person represents the Republican base?
2. I don’t really care why people vote for Republicans as long as they do. So, put me down for a “meh” here.
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### Author:  [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2012, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/10 "2012-05-28T16:34:51Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> 1. I don’t really care why people vote for Republicans as long as they do. So, put me down for a “meh” here.
Would you lie to someone to make them vote Republican?
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### Author:  [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2012, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/11 "2012-05-28T16:37:51Z")
> [@Congressman attacks student for daring to ask him a question](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/congressman-attacks-student-for-daring-to-ask-him-a-question/543227/255):
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> Please demonstrate how I am a partisan hack. You can’t do it.
> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> 1. I don’t really care why people vote for Republicans as long as they do.
Done and done.
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### Author:  [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2012, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/12 "2012-05-28T16:41:27Z")
> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#):
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> Would you lie to someone to make them vote Republican?
**The Lie** is what is used to get people to vote _any_ party or issue. Why single out republicans?
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### Author:  [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/13 "2012-05-28T16:46:29Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Done and done.
BOOYAH! Slam dunk!
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### Author:  [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2012, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/14 "2012-05-28T17:04:41Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#):
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> I don’t understand. Just curious **Happy Lendervedder** do you go to church? How do you interpret the bible? Do you believe homosexuality is a sin? If not, why? Isn’t God pretty clear on it being a sin?
God (assuming there is one and the Bible represents his views) is also pretty clear on how to deal with fellow humans that sin: MYOB. Sins that harm only the sinner are between the sinner and God; in this case, I guess, the sinners come in pairs, but it’s still not something that the community at large needs to police.
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### Author:  [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2012, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/15 "2012-05-28T17:05:01Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Done and done.
Effective, but please tell me you’ve done this more than once since [2010](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12580999&postcount=255). I usually don’t read his posts, but the reasons I started glossing over his attempts at reason strongly suggest it should be an almost daily occurrence.
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### Author:  [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/16 "2012-05-28T17:06:04Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> 1. I don’t really care why people vote for Republicans as long as they do. So, put me down for a “meh” here.
Eventually, though, those chickens can come home to roost. If Republicans deliberately set out to woo the extremist rightwing Christian vote, then they end up having to defend the platform the extremist rightwing Christians want, in order not to lose those votes.
At this point, the Republican Party’s commitment to things like marriage laws discrimination, anti-science views on creationism and climate change, and other causes dear to the hearts of the religious right is losing them the votes of moderates, and the support of religious-right voters isn’t making up for that.
As a loyal apparatchik of your chosen party, you may not care why people vote for Republicans, but you should probably be concerned to know why people **stop** voting for Republicans.
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### Author:  [@SnakesCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakesCatLady)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2012, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/17 "2012-05-28T17:09:24Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#):
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> I don’t understand. Just curious **Happy Lendervedder** do you go to church? How do you interpret the bible? Do you believe homosexuality is a sin? If not, why? Isn’t God pretty clear on it being a sin?
The Bible is pretty specific about who is supposed to do the judging. Or did you miss that part?
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### Author:  [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2012, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/18 "2012-05-28T17:13:35Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> God (assuming there is one and the Bible represents his views) is also pretty clear on how to deal with fellow humans that sin: MYOB. Sins that harm only the sinner are between the sinner and God; in this case, I guess, the sinners come in pairs, but it’s still not something that the community at large needs to police.
Interesting answer, but I’m curious about how **Happy Lendervedder** answers my questions.
I’m not trying to be confrontational. If **Happy Lendervedder** does attend church, and puts money in the collection plate… isn’t that supporting those who don’t ‘mind their own business’ in the end?
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### Author:  [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2012, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/19 "2012-05-28T17:32:47Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Done and done.
How long have you been waiting for that? Pretty sad really.
In any even, you are wrong. A partisan hack makes up all sorts of stupid arguments just to favor their side and is blind to arguments that favor the other side. I don’t do that. You never see me on the boards defending something a Republican does just because a Republican does it.
At the same time, I think that Republicans in office would be better for this country than would Democrats in office, so I favor people voting for Republicans even if they do so for stupid reasons.
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### Author:  [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)
#### Post date: [May 28, 2012, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/20 "2012-05-28T17:33:51Z")
> [@](#):
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> Interesting answer, but I’m curious about how Happy Lendervedder answers my questions.
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> I’m not trying to be confrontational. If Happy Lendervedder does attend church, and puts money in the collection plate… isn’t that supporting those who don’t ‘mind their own business’ in the end?
I’m unsure of the ostensibly rhetorical question’s direction. Say I support the Democratic party, donate to local and national races, and volunteer some of my time. Does that mean I \*necessarily \*support keeping Guantanamo open or crackdowns on medical marijuana facilities?
> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> In any even, you are wrong. A partisan hack makes up all sorts of stupid arguments just to favor their side and is blind to arguments that favor the other side. I don’t do that. You never see me on the boards defending something a Republican does just because a Republican does it.
I gotta stop skipping over your posts. That’s comedy gold right there.
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