# Why Obama Will Probably Lose **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 28, 2012, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352 "2012-05-28T15:50:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/121 "2012-07-13T13:22:16Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > Do you think any of the party affiliated folks on this MB would discourage anyone from voting for his favored party? Depends, can you identify them? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2012, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/122 "2012-07-13T13:31:54Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Not really. A partisan hack is someone who will never criticize his own party. Usually, it also means he will never say anything good about the other party, and constantly tries to paint that party in the worst light possible. Given two possible explanations for something, he will accept, uncritically, the “good” one when it comes to his own party and the “bad” one when it comes to the other party. That’s a pretty high bar. To prove **Rand Rover** is a partisan hack by your definition, one would need to review all of his posts to ensure he never once said anything positive about a Democrat nor anything critical of a Republican. Even one statement to the contrary would exempt him from hackery. And that’s assuming we limit the comments only to this message board; he could theoretically be singing the praises of Obama and trash-talking those greedy, amoral Republicans on other message boards or in meatspace. That said, I’m pretty sure he’d qualify under even those strict terms, but obviously nobody has the time to do that kind of in-depth research. For practical purposes, the looser, “I know it when I see it” working definition of a partisan hack is perfectly useful. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/123 "2012-07-18T21:25:14Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > What a twit. And for the record, she does not represent the views of Christians everywhere. Only the idiots that make lots of noise about gay people. I want to agree, but after SO many years of christian this and christian that, I really really want to invoke the “No True Scotsman”. It has just gotten so damn old, all this Gawd this and christian that. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/124 "2012-07-18T21:30:05Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > … people can interpret their religious texts however they like. But **they should at least be honest about what it actually says and doesn’t say**. That will NEVER happen. Cherry picking, distortion and lying is the rule of the day ---
**Author:** ![dngnb8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/977dab/32.png) [@dngnb8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dngnb8)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2012, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/125 "2012-07-18T21:31:26Z")
Another election which can be defined as Vote for me because Im not him. ---
**Author:** ![BlinkingDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BlinkingDuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlinkingDuck)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/126 "2012-07-19T18:31:35Z")
> [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > I don’t understand. Just curious **Happy Lendervedder** do you go to church? How do you interpret the bible? Do you believe homosexuality is a sin? If not, why? Isn’t God pretty clear on it being a sin? I am not religious…but I used to be. Short answer: Most Christians do not believe in the literal interpretation of the bible. They do not believe that it is the word of God handed down directly and unchanged. They believe that much of the bible is true but that the recording and the rewriting thoughout history could have distorted it. Hell, I was brought up VERY Catholic, had priest/nun friends and none that I know of believed in literal truth of the bible. I took a Theology class taught by a nun (I was toying with becoming a priest) and she spent the first couple of days documenting the bible and various translations and that some were better than others…even comparing the same passages translated from different sources and times. Why is homosexuality thought of so negatively by some Christians? My thoughts are that it has not much to do with Christianity but a hate for them that those then went into the bible to look for support for their views and grabbed onto anything they found. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352/127 "2012-07-19T20:10:44Z")
Just read what the Epsicopalians just did at their recent convention. 1. Approved provisional rites for blessing same-sex unions 2. Added “gender expression and identity” to their non-discrimination canons, including access to discernment for ordination 3. Endorsed the repeal of DOMA 4. Supported civil rights for same-sex partners including the residency rights for immigrant partners of citizens. So being anti-gay is not a “Christian” thing. Christians are on both sides (much like civil rights, women’s sufferage, slavery, and most other social issues). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-obama-will-probably-lose/623352.md?page=6)