Why Predator 2 pisses me off.

The comparison to Bruce Campbell might not be perfectly accurate, but there does seem to be an inordinate amount of Paxton-love on fanboy movie review sites.

For instance, someone will be writing about the punk who got kacked for his clothes at the beginning of Terminator, and in describing the scene will invariably bust out a “Bill Paxton!” thing, like they do with Campbell.

I think his performance in Aliens is largely responsible.

I just thought I’d mention a silly joke someone made when I was watching “Predator 2” with a bunch of other people. This person quipped that one interesting difference between the two Predator movies was that, at the end of “Predator”, a white guy turns black (ie Arnie gets covered in soot and shit as a result of the first Predator blowing itself up and incinerating most of the surrounding rainforest when it does so), while at the end of “Predator 2”, a black guy turns white (ie Danny Glover gets covered in ash after the Predators’ spaceship takes off)!

“DEELANN! You son of a bitch!”

I watch Predator about once every 3 months, but for a time a few years back they showed it, 11.30pm or thereabouts every Thursday on Sky Movies Gold for about 4 months. And i’d watch it everytime. Predator 2’s alright though. King Willy! and that gold sedan that Danny Glover takes a ride in.

“He was a good soldier.”
“He was my…friend.”

Bill Duke should be in more films, because he fucking rules. Now, i’m off into the Jungle in my MTV t-shirt.
Bullshit! You ain’t afraid o no man!"

Feh. Watch Highlander 2 and then get back to me with a pit rant…

What are you talking about? Highlander never had any sequels. Any evidence to the contrary is a hoax.

A half-kiloton is still pretty impressive. As for Arnie’s survival… well, c’mon, he’s Arnold.

Lame reason? It’s consistency. The first movie solidly established that these things hunt for sport. Y’know what? Human hunters only go for trophy bucks.

Actually, scientists predict another body of stable, super-heavy elements much higher on the periodic table than anything we’ve discovered.

And besides, this wasn’t supposed to be some hard sci-fi, man. It was an action flick. A comic book in film.

Sorry Pred 2 lovers. I can’t buy DG beating the Pred. It ruined the movie for me.

It’s almost as bad as when they fucked up Robocop by giving him a rocketpack and making him PG-13 in Robocop 3.

A rocket pack? WTF Robocop? Why did you do that to him? WHY!!!

Surprised Scientist: Apparently, this element has an atomic number of pi.

Whereas it is consistant, I don’t think the buck comparison works quite right. There is a scene in Predator where Anna picks up a gun, and Arnold kicks it out of her hand. It’s not that Predators don’t attack women, it’s that they don’t attack diffenseless prey. Everyone gets a death relegated to their defence. People with guns get shot; people with knives and swords etc get gutted; people who chose to fight barehanded get the crap beat out of them by hand, but it seems only a rare few earn that privilage. You’ve got to show you’re one hell of a badass before a predator will go mono y mono with you in hand to hand because, well…they know humans are fucking pussies and need all the help they can get.

As for the helmets having dreads…they don’t. The predators have dreads (or little tendrills for hair). Watch both movies again…when the mask comes off, the dreads are still there.

Personally, I enjoyed Predator 2, and the near future thing worked for me. I like when things are set in the future, but there’s really no difference. I mean, according to movies from the 40s, I should be able to jump in my flying car and head off for a vacation at Moonbase 1 for the weekend by now. Setting it seven years in the future helped to seperate it enough that you could seriously consider “Yeah, this is what the future is going to be like…just like today, only more violent.” It wasn’t that far off, and I think that was a good thing.

Density it periodic just like many other physical properties. It also might be “quite light” by virtue of how it is manufactured, rather than by virtue of its materials. Jacketed aerogel or something like that, who knows.

Anyway, I remember thinking the invisibility/cloaking effect was much cooler looking in the first one.

Damn! Mr. 10001001 or whoever stole my nerdy line about density not linearly increasing with atomic number, so I’ll have to try something else.

Yeah, but it’s generally understood to mean that these elements on the “island of stability” will have half-lives on the order of seconds instead of milliseconds. Course, they could be wrong.

Predator 2 used to give me nightmares when I was a kid. Not because of the alien, but rather the gang warfare. Robocop did the same thing. I’ve always been more afraid of stuff that could happen (marauding gangs, nuclear war, etc) than stuff that’s just poppycock (aliens, ghosts, etc).

Still liked P2 better though! And here’s a line/joke from it (not an exact quote):

I went to the doctor the other day, and he said that he needed a urine sample, a stool sample, and a semen sample. So I said to him, “I’m in a hurry, doc. Can I just leave you my underwear?”

Yes, but they didn’t have to make her pregnant. They could have simply had the Predator kill her like he did 99% of the other humans he tangled with; would the Predator killing a human female really have been so horrifying? I thought the pregnancy bit was just lame, particularly as no mention was made of the woman’s gravid state beforehand. (Yeah, yeah, I know, it could have been too early for her to tell that she was with child. I propose we start up a whole new thread debating this one point, and spend eternity duking it out, like God and Satan (I’ll even be Satan if you like!))

Oh well, even if most of the movie blew, I liked those silver spacesuit-type things in it that Gary Busey and his stooges wore when they were trying to capture the Predator (it was just too bad they turned out to be useless). I must have one!

Didn’t the predator killed the women with guns that were in the subway train? I remember he killed quite a few people, I don’t remember if he killed any women there or not.

No mention was made because it was probably a movie twist.

Hey, if you want to nitpick at what he didn’t kill, you could think about the boy he spared who was playing with a toy gun.

Nah, there’s speculation of hours. Mmmmm, I’d love a big hunk of Chamelium on my mantle.

Predator 2 was just way too contrived for me to like it as much as number one. Predator movies don’t need complecated plot twists…

In the ‘book’ the Pred didn’t kill her because killing a pregnant woman screws up their kill count.

All in all I think 1 was better then 2 but people that think 2 is a travesty are off their rockers.

Why is it that the dumbest most pointless threads I start will last for days, but well thought out ones will drop like a fucking rock into SDMB history. :smack:

This thread don’t got time to drop! :wink:

I guess I watched a different movie than you did, because to my eyes it looked like the Pred got its butt whupped by A: a Special Forces squad, and B: a lot of bad luck.

I mean, come ON. It GOT ITS ARM CUT OFF. And it STILL nearly won. If Glover hadn’t managed to get his hands on that wonky disc, this would’ve been no contest.