# Why should I fear Speaker Pelosi?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-fear-speaker-pelosi/379949>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 10, 2006, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-fear-speaker-pelosi/379949 "2006-11-10T23:06:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2006, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-fear-speaker-pelosi/379949/61 "2006-11-12T23:01:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Squink]  
Do you even have to ask when things [like this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=395618) make it into the public discourse?  
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This is not “the public discourse”; this is the SDMB, and **Wildfire** MM\*\* is a complete whackjob. He does not represent anyone but himself, though I don’t doubt that some in very rural parts of the country would be uneasy about the fact itself, not the prospect necessarily.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2006, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-fear-speaker-pelosi/379949/62 "2006-11-12T23:07:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Captain Carrot]  
This is not “the public discourse”; this is the SDMB, and **Wildfire** MM\*\*…  
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Driscoll, not Wildfire.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2006, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-fear-speaker-pelosi/379949/63 "2006-11-12T23:10:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Squink]  
Driscoll, not Wildfire.  
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Whoops; I assumed you were referring to [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=395963). In that case, I see your point. Memo to self: always open links even if you’ve already read the thread.

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2006, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-fear-speaker-pelosi/379949/64 "2006-11-12T23:18:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Captain Carrot]  
This is not “the public discourse”; this is the SDMB, and **Wildfire** MM\*\* is a complete whackjob.  
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**Moderator’s Note:** Let’s not be getting into discussions of the _personal_ merits or lack thereof of other SDMB posters in Great Debates, please.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2006, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-fear-speaker-pelosi/379949/65 "2006-11-12T23:36:53Z")

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[QUOTE=MEBuckner]  
**Moderator’s Note:** Let’s not be getting into discussions of the _personal_ merits or lack thereof of other SDMB posters in Great Debates, please.  
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Sorry, I post so rarely in GD (except for the last few days) that I forgot I was here at all.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-fear-speaker-pelosi/379949/66 "2006-11-13T02:14:41Z")

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[Not so fast, John:](http://www.boston.com/news/local/connecticut/articles/2006/11/12/lieberman_refuses_to_close_door_on_switching_parties/)

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> Asked on NBC’s “Meet the Press” if he might follow the example of Sen. Jim Jeffords of Vermont, who left the Republicans in 2001 and became an independent, ending Republican control of the U.S. Senate, Lieberman refused to discount the possibility.
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> “I’m not ruling it out but I hope I don’t get to that point,” he said.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-fear-speaker-pelosi/379949/67 "2006-11-13T02:54:11Z")

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[QUOTE=silenus]  
As usual, Wiki has a pretty good [summary](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Pelosi) of her positions.  
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If she ever wants to be president, she’ll have to modify her position on gun control, just to start with.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-fear-speaker-pelosi/379949/68 "2006-11-13T03:36:08Z")

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I would bloody well hope so! But she seems to have accepted the mantle of being a National leader, and the fact that, as such, she must toe the line of the party as a whole, not just her personal constituency and beliefs.

Honestly, if the Dems ever just came out and promised to never bring up gun control again, they’d own Congress for a century.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-fear-speaker-pelosi/379949/69 "2006-11-13T04:19:39Z")

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Why should you fear Speaker Pelosi?

Because she likes to drive her enemies before her, and hear der lamentations of der vimmen!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-fear-speaker-pelosi/379949/70 "2006-11-13T05:30:37Z")

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The crows and the jackals feed upon the flesh of her enemies.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-fear-speaker-pelosi/379949/71 "2006-11-13T15:27:56Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
If she ever wants to be president, she’ll have to modify her position on gun control, just to start with.  
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Why? It is true that most polls seem to show that a majority of Americans don’t want gun _ban_s. OTOH, most Polls Americans seem to show them as OK with gun _control_. Although I personally think “gun control laws” are silly and useless, that Wiki cite "Pelosi has consistently supported limitations to the Second Amendment of the United States Constituion. She has voted to limit the ownership of firearms and concealed weapons.[21] She has routinely voted to restrict the number of handguns sold in the United States and to extend the waiting period for purchasing a firearm of any type. She voted against 24 Hour Background Check Amendment bill that would make background checks at a gun show mandatory because the waiting period was only 24 hours[22]. She later voted for an amendment to this bill that would extend the waiting period to 72 hours[23]. " doesn’t really show a rabid gun-banning position, and her position is fairly close to several other men who got into the Oval Office.

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