# Why should I Listen to 432hz Music? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 3, 2014, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787 "2014-01-03T12:29:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/41 "2015-02-11T17:29:42Z")
> [@432Hz](#): > > Let me tell first of all I believe 432 is Heavenly and it > would be difficult to make me think otherwise. Difficult, but not impossible. What would it take for you to think otherwise? Can you describe some evidence that would make you rethink your belief? ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/42 "2015-02-11T17:55:23Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Difficult, but not impossible. What would it take for you to think otherwise? Can you describe some evidence that would make you rethink your belief? you can’t reason someone out of a position he didn’t reason himself into. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/43 "2015-02-11T21:13:51Z")
[Prime factors](http://www.mathwarehouse.com/arithmetic/numbers/prime-number/prime-factorization-calculator.php) 432 = 2^4 \* 3^3 440 = 2^3 \* 5 \* 11 With fewer prime factors, and the prettiest two to boot, you probably get nicer patterns with harmonics of 432 than with harmonics of 440. Of course some people _like_ sounds that miss obvious symmetry by a factor of 5 or 11. Likely a precise musical scale is a lot like beer, you get used to it, and then it sounds, or tastes _right_. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/44 "2015-02-11T21:16:05Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Difficult, but not impossible. What would it take for you to think otherwise? Can you describe some evidence that would make you rethink your belief? Strap him down and make him listen to a pure 432hz tone until he cracks. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/45 "2015-02-11T21:38:16Z")
What The Fuck did I just read? ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/46 "2015-02-11T21:50:07Z")
I found this great sample set on [youtube.com](http://youtube.com) Was extremely surprised by the outcome when I tried it out. Grab a piece of paper and test yourself. He’s going to play some music samples for you, just note in each set whether you prefer sample a or sample b. Fascinating. [spoiler] I’m one of those people who can sing you a middle “c” any time out of the blue if you ask me to. Not “perfect pitch” by any stretch, but can produce the correct note to center myself, so better than most people. I totally expected to know the difference, and being a classical music fan, to prefer the 432. As it turns out, I couldn’t tell the difference at all here. Thought I could, would have told you I’d picked all the 432’s. Hadn’t, my results were utterly random. Humility gained. LOL! [/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/47 "2015-02-11T22:09:07Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > I found this great sample set on [youtube.com](http://youtube.com) Was extremely surprised by the outcome when I tried it out. Grab a piece of paper and test yourself. He’s going to play some music samples for you, just note in each set whether you prefer sample a or sample b. > > Fascinating. Your link is to YouTube’s home page, not the video to which you refer. Can you give us the actual link? ---
**Author:** ![RedSwinglineOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a9adbd/32.png) [@RedSwinglineOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedSwinglineOne)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/48 "2015-02-11T22:14:50Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > [Prime factors](http://www.mathwarehouse.com/arithmetic/numbers/prime-number/prime-factorization-calculator.php) > 432 = 2^4 \* 3^3 > 440 = 2^3 \* 5 \* 11 > > With fewer prime factors, and the prettiest two to boot, you probably get nicer patterns with harmonics of 432 than with harmonics of 440. Of course some people _like_ sounds that miss obvious symmetry by a factor of 5 or 11. Likely a precise musical scale is a lot like beer, you get used to it, and then it sounds, or tastes _right_. What difference could the number of prime factors possibly make? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/49 "2015-02-11T22:26:59Z")
Why are you telling us all these things about the number 432? You can’t tune an instrument to 432, nor can you have a frequency of 432. The frequency you’re talking about isn’t 432; it’s 432 hertz. Which means that you also have to convince us that hertz are the One True Way of measuring frequency. Why not measure it in terms of the Planck frequency, or the Hubble constant? What’s so special about measuring frequencies in terms of 1/9192631770 of the frequency of the hyperfine transition of cesium-133? ---
**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/50 "2015-02-12T00:27:52Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Why are you telling us all these things about the number 432? You can’t tune an instrument to 432, nor can you have a frequency of 432. The frequency you’re talking about isn’t 432; it’s 432 hertz. Which means that you also have to convince us that hertz are the One True Way of measuring frequency. Why not measure it in terms of the Planck frequency, or the Hubble constant? What’s so special about measuring frequencies in terms of 1/9192631770 of the frequency of the hyperfine transition of cesium-133? Yep. Also, what is special about the length of tbe second? ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/51 "2015-02-12T00:44:25Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > I found this great sample set on [youtube.com](http://youtube.com) Was extremely surprised by the outcome when I tried it out. Grab a piece of paper and test yourself. He’s going to play some music samples for you, just note in each set whether you prefer sample a or sample b. > > Fascinating. > > [spoiler] I’m one of those people who can sing you a middle “c” any time out of the blue if you ask me to. Not “perfect pitch” by any stretch, but can produce the correct note to center myself, so better than most people. I totally expected to know the difference, and being a classical music fan, to prefer the 432. > > As it turns out, I couldn’t tell the difference at all here. Thought I could, would have told you I’d picked all the 432’s. Hadn’t, my results were utterly random. Humility gained. LOL! [/spoiler] > [@commasense](#): > > Your link is to YouTube’s home page, not the video to which you refer. Can you give us the actual link? Sorry about that! Trying again: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVoVr9UwOQM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVoVr9UwOQM) ---
**Author:** ![432Hz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/bc79bd/32.png) [@432Hz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/432Hz)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/52 "2015-02-12T09:49:51Z")
“Hallelujah” Well I heard there was a secret chord that David played and it pleased the Lord But you don’t really care for music, do you? Well it goes like this: The fourth, the fifth, The minor fall and the major lift The baffled king composing Hallelujah Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah… [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/B-PfRBw--lM/hqdefault.jpg "Jeff Buckley - Hallelujah (432 Hz) - MrBtskidz") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-PfRBw--lM) ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/53 "2015-02-12T10:11:25Z")
By definition, no “A chord, in music, is any harmonic set of two or more notes that is heard as if sounding simultaneously.” [Chord (music) - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chord_%28music%29) ---
**Author:** ![eulalia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eulalia/32/457_2.png) [@eulalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eulalia)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/54 "2015-02-12T10:19:57Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > I found this great sample set on [youtube.com](http://youtube.com) Was extremely surprised by the outcome when I tried it out. Grab a piece of paper and test yourself. He’s going to play some music samples for you, just note in each set whether you prefer sample a or sample b. > > Fascinating. > > [spoiler] I’m one of those people who can sing you a middle “c” any time out of the blue if you ask me to. Not “perfect pitch” by any stretch, but can produce the correct note to center myself, so better than most people. I totally expected to know the difference, and being a classical music fan, to prefer the 432. > > As it turns out, I couldn’t tell the difference at all here. Thought I could, would have told you I’d picked all the 432’s. Hadn’t, my results were utterly random. Humility gained. LOL! [/spoiler] I found it by googling 432 Hz, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVoVr9UwOQM](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVoVr9UwOQM) I could tell the difference, when there was one, and I consistently preferred the 440 Hz samples. I don’t know if either the fact that I sing soprano or that I have greater hearing loss at lower frequencies has anything to do with it. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/55 "2015-02-13T00:05:30Z")
Or maybe it’s just that you’re Hitler. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/56 "2015-02-13T00:56:08Z")
> [@432Hz](#): > > How do you all feel about this number 666? Take a marble. Place two marbles next to it, so that they all touch, forming a triangle. Add three more marbles along one side to form a triangle where five marbles touch one in the center. Now add a row of four, five, six marbles to form larger and larger triangles. When you add the 36th row, you will have laid out a triangle of 666 marbles. Pretty magic, eh? Where is 432 in this? Well, it looks like at row 29, you have 435 marbles. So, I guess you just missed the boat on that one. ---
**Author:** ![432Hz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/bc79bd/32.png) [@432Hz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/432Hz)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/57 "2015-02-13T01:41:55Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > You’ll rot in hell for that. Yeah… So tell me about it… 440hz was promoted by both the Rockefellers and the Nazi’s The Elite Agenda The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist… > **[The Gold Standard](https://theeliteagenda.wordpress.com/2014/10/01/the-gold-standard/)** > > Today I was reading about the musician Prince, apparently he had announced a Facebook Q&A and ignoring the other 4000 replies he, in true Prince fashion, only answered a single question. I expe… ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/58 "2015-02-13T02:42:42Z")
**Moderator Action** This has strayed pretty far out of GQ territory. Let’s try MPSIMS for now. Moving thread from General Questions to Mundane Pointless Stuff I Must Share. ---
**Author:** ![432Hz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/bc79bd/32.png) [@432Hz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/432Hz)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/59 "2015-02-13T04:21:59Z")
What is 432Hz Tuning? Pointless… In my humble opinion, I think Not! [http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia\_fuerzasuniverso11.htm](http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_fuerzasuniverso11.htm) ---
**Author:** ![432Hz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/bc79bd/32.png) [@432Hz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/432Hz)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/60 "2015-02-13T04:39:15Z")
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