# Why should I Listen to 432hz Music? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 3, 2014, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787 "2014-01-03T12:29:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/61 "2015-02-13T12:16:13Z")
> [@432Hz](#): > > I think the slogan should be changed… > THE STRAIGHT DOPE:smack: > Still fighting ignorance since 1973 > (It’s taking alot longer then we thought) You still haven’t explained why the second is the best unit of measurement. Why not cycles per minute? That’s not to say there aren’t conspiracies. This just isn’t one. Hitler conspired to kill Jews, not control the populace through instrumental tuning. Yes, there were efforts to control people through music. However, that was through using certain TYPES of music to elicit patriotic emotions, or whatever emotion desired at the moment. Tuning had nothing to do with it. Dude, let it go. You want a real conspiracy? The Saudis are conspiring with the U.S. to keep down oil prices, so the Russians will suffer economic hardship and take down Putin. That’s real. ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/62 "2015-02-13T12:59:04Z")
> [@get\_lives](#): > > You still haven’t explained why the second is the best unit of measurement. Why not cycles per minute? > > That’s not to say there aren’t conspiracies. This just isn’t one. Hitler conspired to kill Jews, not control the populace through instrumental tuning. Yes, there were efforts to control people through music. However, that was through using certain TYPES of music to elicit patriotic emotions, or whatever emotion desired at the moment. Tuning had nothing to do with it. > > Dude, let it go. You want a real conspiracy? The Saudis are conspiring with the U.S. to keep down oil prices, so the Russians will suffer economic hardship and take down Putin. That’s real. How about a conspiracy to peddle woo-woo to sell books and other media to gullible people. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/63 "2015-02-13T13:33:44Z")
> [@get\_lives](#): > > You still haven’t explained why the second is the best unit of measurement. Why not cycles per minute? And why A, when that’s not even the fundamental note of most instruments? How does A432 help if you don’t play a song that has an A in it? If it’s some bullshit explanation like the other notes being in tune, then you also, as mentioned before, have to specify a temperament to go along with the A432 tuning, as different notes will have different tunings in different temperaments. Oh, and “Verdi tuning” is C256, not A440. That does not equal A432 except in Pythageorean tuning/temperament, not in use in Verdi’s time (nor now.) ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/64 "2015-02-13T13:53:56Z")
(And, just calculating it out, C256 is about A430.5 in equal temperament.) ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/65 "2015-02-13T14:19:01Z")
What they’re not telling you is that all the 432 hype is cover for the REAL magic power of 433! ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/66 "2015-02-13T14:23:19Z")
I personally like to tune all my instruments to A444.5 or, as I like to call it, E666. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/67 "2015-02-13T15:00:35Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > I personally like to tune all my instruments to A444.5 or, as I like to call it, E666. hell - I don’t tune my instruments - I prefer to let them be free range. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/68 "2015-02-13T15:13:13Z")
> [@simster](#): > > hell - I don’t tune my instruments - I prefer to let them be free range. Heh. This is much closer to the reality of it, even in elite ensembles. Pitch likes to wander around. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/69 "2015-02-13T15:25:44Z")
I heard a soprano so bad she threw the piano A to 436. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/70 "2015-02-13T15:36:08Z")
> [@simster](#): > > hell - I don’t tune my instruments - I prefer to let them be free range. That’s my singing technique. Turns out I can carry a tune perfectly. ---
**Author:** ![No\_umlaut\_for\_U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ea5d25/32.png) [@No\_umlaut\_for\_U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/No_umlaut_for_U)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/71 "2015-02-13T16:49:07Z")
You can tune a piano, but you can’t tune a fish. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/72 "2015-02-13T18:00:52Z")
What if I want to play a song in Eb? Should I tune that Eb to 432 as well? ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/73 "2015-02-13T19:07:49Z")
> [@Eonwe](#): > > What if I want to play a song in Eb? Should I tune that Eb to 432 as well? All notes need to be 432 Hz. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/74 "2015-02-13T20:04:15Z")
Pretty much all music should be a sustained single sine tone at 432 Hz, is what I’m getting. That’s the music of the Heavens. ---
**Author:** ![OffByOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/45deac/32.png) [@OffByOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OffByOne)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/75 "2015-02-13T20:37:02Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > [Prime factors](http://www.mathwarehouse.com/arithmetic/numbers/prime-number/prime-factorization-calculator.php) > 432 = 2^4 \* 3^3 > 440 = 2^3 \* 5 \* 11 > > With fewer prime factors, and the prettiest two to boot, you probably get nicer patterns with harmonics of 432 than with harmonics of 440. Of course some people _like_ sounds that miss obvious symmetry by a factor of 5 or 11. Likely a precise musical scale is a lot like beer, you get used to it, and then it sounds, or tastes _right_. Fewer prime factors? How is 2_2_2_2_3_3_3 fewer than 2_2_2_5_11? 7 \< 5? ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/76 "2015-02-13T23:10:32Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > Pretty much all music should be a sustained single sine tone at 432 Hz, is what I’m getting. That’s the music of the Heavens. It is. It makes my leg weak and all my chakras quiver with meta-spiritual water memory moistness. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2015, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/77 "2015-02-14T00:52:28Z")
> [@DinoR](#): > > It is. It makes my leg weak and all my chakras quiver with meta-spiritual water memory moistness. Hey. How _you_ doin’? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2015, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/78 "2015-02-14T02:12:32Z")
> [@DinoR](#): > > It is. It makes my leg weak and all my chakras quiver with meta-spiritual water memory moistness. so, you would say it resonates with you? > [@OffByOne](#): > > Fewer prime factors? How is 2_2_2_2_3_3_3 fewer than 2_2_2_5_11? 7 \< 5? I think you forgot to carry the one. ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2015, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/79 "2015-02-14T02:59:40Z")
> [@simster](#): > > so, you would say it resonates with you? So much so that people used to call me Helmholtz. ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2015, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/80 "2015-02-14T03:17:24Z")
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