# Why should I Listen to 432hz Music? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 3, 2014, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787 "2014-01-03T12:29:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2015, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/81 "2015-02-14T05:18:33Z")
Yes. You may. ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2015, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/82 "2015-02-14T06:15:42Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > Hey. How _you_ doin’? 😃 I’m suddenly even **more** troubled by the fact that I am male but have self lubricating chakras. My third eye is jamming which has severely inhibited my ability to pitch. I’m stressed about my new almost but not quite monotonal music career. All songs are 432 Hz ± 3.9Hz (so they are always closer to 432 than 440) with volume variations. Look for my new album, Crystal Chi Enlightened Power Calm, later this year. Fortunately the Dalai Lama promised me total consciousness on my death bed… So I’ve got that going for me, which is nice. ---
**Author:** ![432Hz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/bc79bd/32.png) [@432Hz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/432Hz)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/83 "2015-02-16T09:34:25Z")
Prince held a Facebook Q&A and this is the only question he answered… Please address the importance of ALL music being tuned to 432 Hz sound frequencies??? Prince responded by writing “The Gold Standard” and sharing a link to a story about why you should convert your music to 432 Hz. [- YouTube](http://youtu.be/LQPR_-kocvA) ---
**Author:** ![432Hz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/bc79bd/32.png) [@432Hz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/432Hz)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/84 "2015-02-16T09:36:37Z")
The construction costs of 432 Park exceed $1.25 billion. The owner-developer Harry Macklowe expects to sell over $3 billion of condos in 432 Park. The penthouse has already sold for $95 million. Interestingly Macklowe purchased the Drake Hotel at 440 Park for $440 million and tore it down to make room for the residential tower with the new address of 432 Park. This syncs with the movement to change concert tuning from 440 Hz to the more harmonious 432 Hz. 432 Park to the Statue of Liberty’s torch is 33,333 feet. In addition the distance from the Home of The Supreme Council, 33°, Ancient & Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry in Washington DC to 432 Park is 333 km. [http://www.secretsinplainsight.com/wp-content/uploads/432Park555.jpg](http://www.secretsinplainsight.com/wp-content/uploads/432Park555.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![432Hz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/bc79bd/32.png) [@432Hz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/432Hz)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/85 "2015-02-16T10:30:38Z")
> [@SirRay](#): > > Not sure how this fits in with 432Hz > “(Speed of Light is exactly 299792458 metres per second) > Great Pyramid of Giza, Coordinates is exactly 29.9792° N, 31.1344° E” > although it was a great stroke of luck that Ancient Egypt had adopted the metre thousands of years before Revolutionary France. The Great Pyramid appears to incorporate measurements of Earth on a scale of 43200:1 [http://www.historysmysteries.org/resources/43200.pdf](http://www.historysmysteries.org/resources/43200.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/86 "2015-02-16T13:31:37Z")
Are you planning to address the arbitrariness of the length of the second? How about the fact that the length of a day changes over time? ---
**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/87 "2015-02-16T13:41:47Z")
> [@432Hz](#): > > "In 1989 over a dozen of opera’s greatest superstars—including Placido Domingo, Luciano Pavarotti, and Birgit Nillson—added their names to a petition before the Italian government, asking them to lower the standard pitch at which all orchestras are tuned. At the time, international standard pitch was set at 440 Hz, which is to say that the A above middle C should be tuned to resonate at 440 cycles per second. The petition asked to lower this to 432 Hz, claiming that “the continual raising of pitch for orchestras provokes serious damage to singers, who are forced to adapt to different tunings from one concert hall or opera to the next,” and that “the high standard pitch is one of the main reasons for the crisis in singing, that has given rise to ‘hybrid’ voices unable to perform the repertoire assigned to them.” The petition ended with a demand that “The Ministeries of Education, Arts and Culture, and Entertainment accept and adopt the normal standard pitch of A = 432 for all music institutions and opera houses, such that it > becomes the official Italian standard pitch, and, very soon, the official standard pitch universally.” > > [http://longform.org/stories/pitch-battles](http://longform.org/stories/pitch-battles) > > SCHILLER INSTITUTE > 432Hz Petition > > - In 2001, the entire world will celebrate the 100th anniversary of the death of Giuseppe Verdi on Jan. 30,1901, including by attempting to revive his original operas. Giuseppe Verdi himself, in 1884, wrote a letter to the Music Commission of the Italian Government, proposing that the classical tuning of A=432HZ (equal C=256, scientific pitch) be adopted, in order to respect singing voices and promote classical interpretation. > > He also asked the “whole music world” to also adopt this tuning too, since "music is a universal language, and why should an A in Paris be a B flat in Rome? > [http://www.schillerinstitute.org/music/rev\_verdituning.html](http://www.schillerinstitute.org/music/rev_verdituning.html) Without reverting to the merits of any of the arguments here, I must commend the Schiller Institute as the gold standard of aristocratic radicalism. Mr. LaRouche’s mob is as respectable a source as the Tory Party, the Cato and Heartland Institutes, or the Sea Org; and shows up Rense as the timid speculators of sober reason. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/88 "2015-02-16T14:12:47Z")
> [@432Hz](#): > > The construction costs of 432 Park exceed $1.25 billion. The owner-developer Harry Macklowe expects to sell over $3 billion of condos in 432 Park. The penthouse has already sold for $95 million. > > Interestingly Macklowe purchased the Drake Hotel at 440 Park for $440 million and tore it down to make room for the residential tower with the new address of 432 Park. This syncs with the movement to change concert tuning from 440 Hz to the more harmonious 432 Hz. > > 432 Park to the Statue of Liberty’s torch is 33,333 feet. In addition the distance from the Home of The Supreme Council, 33°, Ancient & Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry in Washington DC to 432 Park is 333 km. > > [http://www.secretsinplainsight.com/wp-content/uploads/432Park555.jpg](http://www.secretsinplainsight.com/wp-content/uploads/432Park555.jpg) A textbook illustration of why this forum is called “pointless.” ---
**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/89 "2015-02-16T15:05:55Z")
I don’t see what Verdi was all up in arms about. The difference of 8 hz is only about 1/5 of a semitone in that octave. Singers would barely notice the difference, and it wouldn’t make even the high notes that much easier to sing. ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/90 "2015-02-16T15:16:14Z")
> [@get\_lives](#): > > I don’t see what Verdi was all up in arms about. The difference of 8 hz is only about 1/5 of a semitone in that octave. Singers would barely notice the difference, and it wouldn’t make even the high notes that much easier to sing. According to the article linked, he wasn’t complaining about the difference between 432 and 440, but between 432 and 450, which is a little more noticeable (I could tell by ear if one of my strings was that far out of tune). Also, orchestra tunings had been gradually creeping upwards, so maybe he was partly interested in stemming that tide. ---
**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/91 "2015-02-16T15:40:36Z")
> [@OneCentStamp](#): > > According to the article linked, he wasn’t complaining about the difference between 432 and 440, but between 432 and 450, which is a little more noticeable (I could tell by ear if one of my strings was that far out of tune). Also, orchestra tunings had been gradually creeping upwards, so maybe he was partly interested in stemming that tide. 18 hz is still only a quarter-step, but I agree that a singer would definitely notice a difference if they were singing near the top of their range at full volume. Also, the steel strings used today (versus the gut strings of the past) can damage string instruments that were not designed for that kind of tension. Higher tunings make this worse, although I don’t think steel strings were a thing in Verdi’s time. ---
**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/92 "2015-02-16T15:43:55Z")
The article also mentions opera orchestras tuning at A=450. Is that true? I’ve not heard of that in the U.S… ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/93 "2015-02-16T15:44:39Z")
> [@get\_lives](#): > > The article also mentions opera orchestras tuning at A=450. Is that true? I’ve not heard of that in the U.S… Neither have I. Maybe that was an artifact of his era. ---
**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/94 "2015-02-16T15:52:42Z")
> [@OneCentStamp](#): > > Neither have I. Maybe that was an artifact of his era. I even think 442 is kind of stupid, and the Viennese tradition of 448 is just unnecessary. According to the article, the Moscow Phil still tunes around 450. Dumbness. ---
**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/95 "2015-02-16T15:58:46Z")
There are plenty of mallet instruments (tubular chimes, xylophones, glockenspiels, marimbas, etc.) from the early 1900s in use in orchestras today, all tuned at 440 (or even 438). These instruments are of extremely high quality, and sound better than anything made today. In particular, the rosewood was old-growth, and has hardened over the years, so it’s tone quality is not reproducible. Retuning these priceless instruments risks damaging them. Not only that, but what happens if pitch standards drift back downward in the future? You can raise the pitch, but you can’t add more wood back to the bar later. ---
**Author:** ![RedSwinglineOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a9adbd/32.png) [@RedSwinglineOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedSwinglineOne)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/96 "2015-02-16T18:39:29Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > Pretty much all music should be a sustained single sine tone at 432 Hz, is what I’m getting. That’s the music of the Heavens. That explains why angel’s harps only have 8 strings that are all the same length. [Angel harps.](http://www.costumecraze.com/product/ACC2364) ---
**Author:** ![lazybratsche](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ba8739/32.png) [@lazybratsche](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lazybratsche)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/97 "2015-02-16T18:53:07Z")
> [@get\_lives](#): > > Also, the steel strings used today (versus the gut strings of the past) can damage string instruments that were not designed for that kind of tension. Higher tunings make this worse, although I don’t think steel strings were a thing in Verdi’s time. True, but you can still get gut strings. They’re pricy, temperamental, and wear out quickly, but if you’re playing a fine 18th century instrument they’re definitely worth it at a couple hundred bucks a set. I have vague recollections that there are lower-tension gut strings made so that you can play A=440hz on older instruments, without harming the sound quality or damaging the instrument. ---
**Author:** ![432Hz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/bc79bd/32.png) [@432Hz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/432Hz)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/98 "2015-02-16T18:54:39Z")
> [@get\_lives](#): > > Are you planning to address the arbitrariness of the length of the second? How about the fact that the length of a day changes over time? You might have to wait until 2018 to get your answer… “A committee of the International Committee for Weights and Measures (CIPM) has proposed revised formal definitions of the SI base units, which are being examined by the CIPM and which will probably be introduced at the 26th ‘General Conference on Weights and Measures’ in 2018. The metric system was originally conceived as a system of measurement that was derivable from nature. When the metric system was first introduced in France in 1799 technical problems necessitated the use of artifacts as the prototype metre and kilogram. In 1960 the metre was redefined in terms of the wavelength of light from a specified source, making it derivable from nature, but the kilogram is still being defined by an artifact since its introduction. If the proposed redefinition is accepted, the metric system (SI) will, for the first time, be wholly derivable from nature.” > **[2019 revision of the SI](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_redefinition_of_SI_base_units)** > > In 2019, four of the seven SI base units specified in the International System of Quantities were redefined in terms of natural physical constants, rather than human artefacts such as the standard kilogram. Effective 20 May 2019, the 144th anniversary of the Metre Convention, the kilogram, ampere, kelvin, and mole are now defined by setting exact numerical values, when expressed in SI units, for the Planck constant (h), the elementary electric charge (e), the Boltzmann constant (kB), and th Th... But in my opinion it might be because cycle per second is how our brains operate… MUSIC OF SUPERCONSCIOUSNESS & 8 HZ It is said that our planet beats from 7.82-8 cycles per second (7.82-8 hz, fundamental Schumann resonance), 8 hz is the alpha brain wave rhythm in which our parallel processors, or brain hemispheres, are synchronized to spin together equally. The neo-cortex of the brain, 90% unassigned becomes awakened in this synchronization, and one then operates in all brain cell dendrites with the maximum information flow possible on that scale. " Ordinary" awareness brain waves ranges from 14-40 hz. Here one is operating only in some brain cell dendrites, and predominantly with the left brain as the centre of activity, where information flow is billions of times slighter (like using an old PC 386 compared to a parallel process Pentium IV, or an old Mac Performa, compared to a Parallel processing G4). In other words at 7.82 one is an operating supercomputer, or congressing towards Superconsciousness. > **[EMF Shielding Devices : Altered States!, Informing The World](https://altered-states.net/cart/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=56_27)** > > Altered States! : EMF Shielding Devices - Magnetic Resonance Alpha-Theta Stim Biofeed Back Massagers Lucid Dreaming Devices Electromagnetic Field Measuring Sound Therapy MWO Colloidal Silver Generators Pinhole Glasses Zappers Healing Tools Vitamin &... ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/99 "2015-02-16T19:45:31Z")
8hz is harmonic to both 440hz _and_ 432hz. The latter is by a factor of 27, but the former is by a factor of 55, which is five times eleven. Anyone who is vaguely familiar with the work of Nigel Tufnel [understand the importance of 11](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Tufnel#2011_Nigel_Tufnel_Day). ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2015, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787/100 "2015-02-16T20:42:34Z")
**eschereal** has me convinced. Sticking with A4 =440. We salute you, our half-inflated Dark Lord! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-should-i-listen-to-432hz-music/677787.md?page=6)