# Why so many lies about Trump?

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [December 11, 2015, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145 "2015-12-11T03:46:40Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2015, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/141 "2015-12-18T20:48:37Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> I get that his specifics are all bullshit, but people listen because immigration actually is broken, and because terrorism is a very real threat.

Immigration is imperfect, but hardly broken. Saying we need to screen those coming better (everyone) is not hateful. Saying we need to block the Saudi Oil Minister from coming to the US because he is Muslim is not rational, it is hatred. And remember Trump refused to answer when asked how is Muslim identification program differed from the Nazi Jewish identification program. That’s either real hatred or a simulation of hatred for the Republican Morlocks.

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### Author: ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2015, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/142 "2015-12-18T20:54:10Z")

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> [@tullsterx](#):
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> You are a liar because Trump is obviously not a piece of shit, and you know that in fact Trump is a man and not a piece of shit. You obviously consider calling someone a piece of shit as as act of “acceptable political hyperbole” when, in fact, it is a lie. Substantiated.

Trump is not literally a piece of shit - no piece of shit would be caught dead with that hair. Figuratively however, he sure is.

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### Author: ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2015, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/143 "2015-12-18T21:26:17Z")

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[lie]Since this is in The Pit now, I’d like to mention that tullsterx is a greasy cumsock.[/lie]

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### Author: ![Shin\_Ji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Shin\_Ji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shin_Ji)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2015, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/144 "2015-12-18T21:48:44Z")

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I just want to congratulate Drax the Destroyer for managing to get an internet connection and joining the board.

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### Author: ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2015, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/145 "2015-12-18T21:54:48Z")

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At least half of the lies about Trump come from Trump himself.

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### Author: ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2015, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/146 "2015-12-18T21:58:23Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> At least half of the lies about Trump come from Trump himself.

Half? That’s a dirty lie. More like 87%

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### Author: ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2015, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/147 "2015-12-18T22:02:03Z")

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The fact that this thread is moved from Elections to the Pit is PROOF… he is a piece of bigoted shit. He comes from shit, his fame is tabloid fodder, he is NOT going to be president because he doesn’t WANT to be president.

Why anyone pays attention to his bullshit is beyond me at this point. Even thinking this guy could be president is like thinking, “Wow. If I start as a bag boy, I’ll be running Wal-Mart someday! It pays to be a high school dropout!” This turd with a fucking rat on his head isn’t remotely qualified to understand the job’s responsibility. Does anyone here think he was in charge of his reality show? He’s TOLD what to do. He doesn’t even know how network television works.

Whoever supports this fuckwad deserves to be shot in the ass and made fun of for life.

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### Author: ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2015, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/148 "2015-12-18T23:17:46Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Instituting a religious test for coming to this country is, in my book, a blatantly bigoted position, and I would even go further and call his position racist.

Islam is not a race. Don’t be a bigot.

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### Author: ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2015, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/149 "2015-12-18T23:21:50Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> Islam is not a race. Don’t be a bigot.

[Merriam-Webster](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot)

> [@](#):
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> Bigot: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or\*\* religious group\*\*)

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### Author: ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)
#### Post date: [December 19, 2015, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/150 "2015-12-19T00:13:28Z")

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Is there a racial or religious group of **Drunky Smurfs**? If so, I’ll cop to being a bigot.

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### Author: ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)
#### Post date: [December 19, 2015, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/151 "2015-12-19T00:19:52Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> Islam is not a race. Don’t be a bigot.

That’s the sort of lazy, uninformed remark I have grown to expect from your people. How dare you call me a bigot!

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### Author: ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)
#### Post date: [December 19, 2015, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/152 "2015-12-19T00:29:36Z")

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> [@74westy](#):
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> Drunky Smurf is telling the truth.

Is this where smoke comes out of the OP’s ears?

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### Author: ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)
#### Post date: [December 19, 2015, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/153 "2015-12-19T12:52:23Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Is there a racial or religious group of **Drunky Smurfs**? If so, I’ll cop to being a bigot.

Well, there is the matter of his _color_. But let’s not forget high-achieving folks like The Blue Man Group…

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### Author: ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/154 "2022-12-14T19:04:10Z")

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Stumbled across this old thread…

> [@elucidator](#):
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> Come to think on it, how come he hasn’t pulled any “voter fraud” bullshit? Too cheap and tawdry for him, maybe?

Isn’t it hilarious the difference a few years makes? Trump too cheap and tawdry for something? Bwahahahaha…

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### Author: ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2022, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/155 "2022-12-16T04:02:01Z")

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Interesting. Good find.  
Now, see if you can find a post from seven years ago where elucidator wrote “Come to think of it, how come he hasn’t pulled any ‘sucker the morons into paying for trading cards depicting me as a superhero and other ridiculous images’ bullshit? Too cheap and tawdry for him, maybe?”

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### Author: ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2022, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/156 "2022-12-16T04:07:47Z")

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Sitting in the airport in f\*cking Frankfurt, 5 o’clock in the morning, and this made me smile. I needed that! Thanks, **Darren\_Garrison!**  
Now I wonder how one happens to stumble across old threads like that. Wow.

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### Author: ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2022, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/157 "2022-12-16T04:47:35Z")

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Cheap and tawdry? Nah. My money’s on he couldn’t get any artist to render him on a cross. He got someone dumb enough to do the work without pay or smart enough to get the money in advance and this is how low and no lower that artist would stoop to.

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### Author: ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2022, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/158 "2022-12-16T04:55:23Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> My money’s on he couldn’t get any artist to render him on a cross.

I just tried to use the DALL-E art AI, with the prompt “Donald Trump on a crucifix.” I received the response:

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> It looks like this request may not follow our content policy.

Even AIs won’t do it!

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### Author: ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2022, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/159 "2022-12-16T05:02:21Z")

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Well, of course not. It’s right there in the name: _intelligence_.

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### Author: ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2022, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/160 "2022-12-16T05:23:08Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> My money’s on he couldn’t get any artist to render him on a cross.

Meh. For a highly idiosyncratic value of “artist,” I bet Jon McNaughton would do it for free.

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