# Why so many lies about Trump?

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [December 11, 2015, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145 "2015-12-11T03:46:40Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2022, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/161 "2022-12-16T05:42:33Z")

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Crucifixion is for losers. Trump likes messiahs that didn’t get crucified.

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### Author: ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2022, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/162 "2022-12-16T07:58:18Z")

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> Now I wonder how one happens to stumble across old threads like that.

Maybe the OP of this one recently posted [something else equally as idiotic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ancient-apocalypse-really-a-new-netflix-documentary/976510/5), and someone wanted to see who the idiot was?

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### Author: ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2022, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/163 "2022-12-16T11:34:37Z")

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> Now I wonder how one happens to stumble across old threads like that. Wow.

The OP was in a cafe society thread defending a conspiracy theory nut. I was curious to see some of the threads he started.

(Eta: yeah, as MrDibble already guessed.)

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### Author: ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2022, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/164 "2022-12-16T11:39:21Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> I just tried to use the DALL-E art AI, with the prompt “Donald Trump on a crucifix.” I received the response:

Dall-E blocks celebrity names.

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### Author: ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2022, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/165 "2022-12-16T11:48:39Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> > [@adaher](#):
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> > Sanders does not limit himself to that. He’s called rich people greedy.
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> And you don’t think they are? Then how did they become so rich?

More appropos: why are they STILL rich? I mean, anyone can become rich by happenstance (marriage, inheritance, lottery) but lying on your pile of gold in your cave for centuries, when tens of millions suffer in want? That’s on you.

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### Author: ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2022, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/166 "2022-12-16T14:32:05Z")

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Thanks for the explanation (and to **MrDribble too**!), I can see now how one leads to the other. And reading a post of his from 2015 and another recent one I am left marvelling at the coherence in style and content. He still likes to ask innocent sounding questions in the “why?” style, a phase most of us went though shortly after we mastered simple sentences and during which we tested the patience of our elders. Reminds me of the same experience I recently had on a personal level when I returned to Berlin after living abroad for ten years: it is astonishing how little people’s fundamental character changes. Old acquaintances long time not seen still have the same ticks, views, opinions, habits… I guess the same applies to me. And that educating people or even making them better or wiser over the net is a fool’s errand, particularly if they don’t want to.  
I also see a correlation between liking and wanting to believe Trump, Atlantis, von Dänicken, Younger Dryas and the like. It all makes sense. Sad!

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### Author: ![tullsterx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tullsterx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tullsterx)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2022, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/167 "2022-12-29T21:03:03Z")

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I’m so glad you guys are here to maintain THE INTELLECTUAL ORDER.

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### Author: ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2022, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/168 "2022-12-29T21:28:40Z")

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> I also see a correlation between liking and wanting to believe Trump, Atlantis, von Dänicken, Younger Dryas and the like. It all makes sense. Sad!

Oh great. Thanks to reading this, currently running through my head is:  
🎶 Way doooown below the ocean…

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### Author: ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2022, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/169 "2022-12-29T21:38:26Z")

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There is a thread about earworms in this board, but I am sorry to say from experience that it does not help to get rid of the worst of them. Sorry! Yours is a bad case, I wish I could help. Have you tried substituting it for another earworm? [Whiter Shade of Pale](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb3iPP-tHdA) often works for me.

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### Author: ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2022, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/170 "2022-12-30T07:20:38Z")

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Okay, WOO-mer 🙄

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### Author: ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2022, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/171 "2022-12-30T16:08:22Z")

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I find the theme to the Addams Family show can be helpful for me.

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### Author: ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/172 "2022-12-30T18:42:16Z")

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> [@tullsterx](#):
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> I’m so glad you guys are here to maintain THE INTELLECTUAL ORDER.

You had two weeks to work up a reply, and that’s the best you can do?

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### Author: ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2022, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/173 "2022-12-30T18:48:12Z")

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Seems they could have at least come up with 14 words.

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### Author: ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2022, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/174 "2022-12-30T19:44:45Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> You had two weeks to work up a reply, and that’s the best you can do?

You know, given that they’re a Hancockhead, I can believe it really, really was.

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### Author: ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2022, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/175 "2022-12-30T22:24:08Z")

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They’ll say more, just like Rump: “In two weeks”.

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### Author: ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2022, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/176 "2022-12-30T23:48:19Z")

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“Hey Jude” is my go-to for that.

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### Author: ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2022, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/177 "2022-12-30T23:51:02Z")

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Mine is a classical melody that I’ve hummed for years… and I have NO idea what it’s from!

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### Author: ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)
#### Post date: [December 31, 2022, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/178 "2022-12-31T01:21:18Z")

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[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/bkApuQWCPdM/maxresdefault.jpg "Hey Jude (Remastered 2009)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkApuQWCPdM)

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### Author: ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)
#### Post date: [December 31, 2022, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/179 "2022-12-31T01:38:35Z")

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Heh. I saw that pic and momentarily forgot which thread I had opened. I almost commented about the spate of defenestrations that have been plaguing prominent Russians of late.

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### Author: ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)
#### Post date: [December 31, 2022, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-lies-about-trump/740145/180 "2022-12-31T04:40:42Z")

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> I also see a correlation between liking and wanting to believe Trump, Atlantis, von Dänicken, Younger Dryas and the like. It all makes sense. Sad!

Did I miss something? I don’t see how Younger Dryas fits in that list, and googling only revealed that (I guess) there are some obscure conspiracy theories that the onset of the Younger Dryas had extra-terrestrial (as in aliens) origin. Is that what you’re referring to?

ETA: ok, nm, I clicked on the link to that CS thread, and I get it now. Huh.

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