# Why so many white people social/subcultures as compared to blacks? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 22, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-white-people-social-subcultures-as-compared-to-blacks/482521 "2009-01-22T21:23:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-white-people-social-subcultures-as-compared-to-blacks/482521/21 "2009-01-23T00:41:23Z")
> [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](#): > > Black yuppies are invisible. :eek: No, no, it’s black goths that are invisible. What isn’t already black, is painted black. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-white-people-social-subcultures-as-compared-to-blacks/482521/22 "2009-01-23T01:34:16Z")
Calm down Biggirl. Don’t go popping a cap in anybody’s ass. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-white-people-social-subcultures-as-compared-to-blacks/482521/23 "2009-01-23T02:06:00Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > If the linked OP is a parody, it’s hilarious. If it’s serious, **Freejooky** is kind of an idiot and maybe kind of a racist. Meh, **Freejooky** is a nasty little troll. He’s the worst kind of troll. He plops down controversial OPs (probably stolen from other message boards and then waltzes off), posting a message or two thrown in for good measure. He doesn’t defend his OPs. He leaves that for the other people to get upset about and argue about among themselves. If you believe him, [he’s dating a high schooler](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=494614), [talking to his friends about DP](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=495219), [wants to know if men rest their penis inside or outside the bowl](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=491058), [has coin slot irritation](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=495554), [can’t go out in public without getting a splitting headache](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=502574), [needs OTC medicine for his anxiety](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=498713), and [just noticed an ad showing that McDonald’s hates black people](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=497756), among the other 67 threads he’s started since Sept. '08. Most of his threads are extremely inflammatory or just plain dumb. It was hard to pick the worst ones for this small sampling. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-white-people-social-subcultures-as-compared-to-blacks/482521/24 "2009-01-23T11:36:45Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > No, no, it’s black goths that are invisible. What isn’t already black, is painted black. 😛 Laugh - you have no idea how hard it is being a non-White goth. PVC bondage pants are just _not_ made for people with asses, man. ---
**Author:** ![lee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lee/32/7455_2.png) [@lee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lee)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-white-people-social-subcultures-as-compared-to-blacks/482521/25 "2009-01-23T12:55:26Z")
> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#): > > I didn’t even need to open the linked thread and I knew it was going to be stupid. Jesus, I’ve met about 15 black people in my life (there just aren’t a heck of a lot of black folks around these parts) and none of them were thugs, profesiugs, or hootchies. In fact, if I were to think about it, they didn’t really have much in common at all. > > And that’s 15 people. With 15 different ‘types’. I have trouble believing that in a city with a much larger black population only 4 ‘types’ can be picked out by anyone other than a twit. I thought you were black. I thought there was a thread a while back about posters who race other’s pegged wrong, and I thought you said you were black in that thread. I wonder who I have been mistaking you for. The referred OP reminds me of llth grade when we were reading short stories written by another class in the same school. They were reading our stories as I recall. Each was assigned to read and critique a paper from another class. One student in my class read a story by a black student and his whole world was shook. Most of the characters were black, and the narrator described the skin tone of most of the characters. It had never occurred to the reviewer that black people might write stories with mostly black characters or that different black people have different skin tones and this is something that would be noticed. He openly wondered if when black people dream, were the people in their dream mostly black? I was badly shook for a moment when I read the OP. I had noted the other asinine thread and it really freaked me out that it could have been Biggirl posting that. ---
**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-white-people-social-subcultures-as-compared-to-blacks/482521/26 "2009-01-23T13:37:43Z")
I wonder if I should tell TheKid’s emo/scene/outcast black friends that they need to discard their eyeliner and electric colored hair and become thugs and hootchies (too young to be professionals). I’m sure that will go over well. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-white-people-social-subcultures-as-compared-to-blacks/482521/27 "2009-01-23T14:14:46Z")
> [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](#): > > Black yuppies are invisible. :eek: Or “not really black”. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-white-people-social-subcultures-as-compared-to-blacks/482521/28 "2009-01-23T14:40:44Z")
“Can’t we all just get along?” -Martin Luther Rodney King (I can’t tell those two gangstas apart!) Those are some incredibly stupid shit, that’s for sure. On the positive side I think there’s more curiosity from white people about the ins and outs of black culture, which is a good thing, but in the process you sometimes see some really nasty, unthinking assumptions exposed in those questions. ---
**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-white-people-social-subcultures-as-compared-to-blacks/482521/29 "2009-01-23T14:48:18Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > Calm down Biggirl. Don’t go popping a cap in anybody’s ass. > 😃 Bustin a cap, fool. ---
**Author:** ![Omega\_Glory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7c8e57/32.png) [@Omega\_Glory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omega_Glory)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-white-people-social-subcultures-as-compared-to-blacks/482521/30 "2009-01-23T14:59:54Z")
I’ll always remember \*\*Freejooky \*\*for his post complaining that most blacks had a chip on their shoulder, which was a good setup that led **monstro** to make a funny post about how her chip makes her crave malt liquor. Sometimes I wonder how many random SDMB posts are taking up space that could be used to remember something important. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-white-people-social-subcultures-as-compared-to-blacks/482521/31 "2009-01-23T15:15:12Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Well, my eyeballs certainly feel assaulted now. We’ll put him in the thug category. If his pants get any tighter around the package, we’ll have to switch him to hootchie. Those are his work clothes, so we could make a case for “Thug Professional”. You are right about the pants though. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-white-people-social-subcultures-as-compared-to-blacks/482521/32 "2009-01-23T15:20:33Z")
> [@An\_Arky](#): > > Ow! > > Well yeah, I mean look at the [Yo Gabba Gabba](http://www.flickr.com/photos/teamlatex/1599096346/) guy, he just screams “thug”! > > (I’m sure I now owe a keyboard or two to some parents of small children) What exactly is that thing? He looks like a cross between Bozo the Clown and Jimmy Walker as a Wiggle. I guess we could call him art because I now question my worldview… :eek: ---
**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-white-people-social-subcultures-as-compared-to-blacks/482521/33 "2009-01-23T15:23:19Z")
…or a Sly Stone Power Ranger… Yo Gabba Gabba is a Nick Jr. show that my daughter likes, along with Wow Wow Wubbzy. And yeah, it’s pretty weird. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-white-people-social-subcultures-as-compared-to-blacks/482521/34 "2009-01-23T15:28:27Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > That being said will no one think of Steve Urkel? Thug. Definately Thug. Look at how he torments Mr. Winslow. Now Stephan Urkel was a Hootchie Mama. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-white-people-social-subcultures-as-compared-to-blacks/482521/35 "2009-01-23T16:43:48Z")
> [@drachillix](#): > > Bustin a cap, fool. Hey, it’s all good in the hood.\* > [@eleanorigby](#): > > What exactly is that thing? He looks like a cross between Bozo the Clown and Jimmy Walker as a Wiggle. > I guess we could call him art because I now question my worldview… :eek: Here’s one man’s opinion of him 😃 [Link](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaVDGyzpXpU) \*OK, OK, I’ll stop now. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-white-people-social-subcultures-as-compared-to-blacks/482521/36 "2009-01-23T17:37:43Z")
Professional thug, I’m gonna put that down on my CV from now on. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-white-people-social-subcultures-as-compared-to-blacks/482521/37 "2009-01-23T18:41:57Z")
> [@Duckster](#): > > During the Inauguration Day broadcasts, I saw/heard several comments that “We shall Overcome,” should now be changed to “We have Overcome.” > > **Biggirl** rightly points out, no, we have not. Not by a long shot. > > If anything, we’ve only just begun, but I don’t think a kiss for luck and we’re on our way is anything sufficient. So what would be ‘overcoming’ exactly? Does perpetual victim status confer some kind of power? What exactly is it that hasn’t been overcome? There are black people living in the big houses, running Fortune 500 corporations, a President of the United States, the greatest golfer in history. What exactly do you want? Every black person to be rich and successful like every white person obviously is? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-white-people-social-subcultures-as-compared-to-blacks/482521/38 "2009-01-23T18:46:58Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > What exactly is it that hasn’t been overcome? There are black people living in the big houses, running Fortune 500 corporations, a President of the United States, the greatest golfer in history. Wow, golf. The incarceration rate for black men is shockingly high, so there’s that. And it affects a few more people than golf does. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-white-people-social-subcultures-as-compared-to-blacks/482521/39 "2009-01-23T18:48:16Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Wow, golf. The incarceration rate for black men is shockingly high, so there’s that. And it affects a few more people than golf does. Ok, fair point. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-white-people-social-subcultures-as-compared-to-blacks/482521/40 "2009-01-23T18:49:43Z")
The golf point was just to show that a black man dominates the whitest sport there is. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-white-people-social-subcultures-as-compared-to-blacks/482521.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-so-many-white-people-social-subcultures-as-compared-to-blacks/482521.md?page=3)