# Why SPECIFICALLY do Republicans hate Obama? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 9, 2010, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-specifically-do-republicans-hate-obama/553181 "2010-09-09T14:33:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2010, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-specifically-do-republicans-hate-obama/553181/121 "2010-09-11T04:30:41Z")
Don’t know as how he has any kind of dialect at all, his voice sounds like the white guy from nowhere in particular. Material ain’t all that hot, either, he could use better writers. ---
**Author:** ![Mozart1220](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Mozart1220](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mozart1220)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-specifically-do-republicans-hate-obama/553181/122 "2010-09-12T00:56:19Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > > [@Rune](#): > > > > You guys have the largest deficit in the history of mankind. You owe enough money to buy two or three small countries, your children’s future is mortgaged and your economy doesn’t seem to be any better for it. > > I don’t know who you guys are, but we can still kick your ass. And I think we could buy two or three large countries. And of course we have the largest deficit in history, we are always #1. And my children’s future is none of your business, but if they have trouble making the mortgage payments, they’ll beat up your kids and take their money. > > Anyway, were you talking about the OP there, or just picking a fight? You teach your children that this is the way to solve their problems? ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-specifically-do-republicans-hate-obama/553181/123 "2010-09-12T02:35:50Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > See, this is why no one takes you seriously. You go to all the trouble to cite a Wikipedia article, then shoehorn Obama into it and say , “See! I told ya so!” Your cite does not support your opinion. Even if we assume Obama is a “Marxist” (though I’m sure he’s read Marx and liked some of the things he said, I’ve read Jorge Luis Borges and like a lot of things he said-- does that make me a “Borgesist”?) Anyway, assuming he’s a Marxist, why is that considered such a ghastly word in the US? Because it is associated with the Soviets, Mao, the North Koreans, Ho Chi Minh, Pol Pot, Fidel Castro, etc . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [pause for a _really_ long time here for effect] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . none of whom actually are/were Marxists. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-specifically-do-republicans-hate-obama/553181/124 "2010-09-12T02:42:08Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > > [@VinylTurnip](#): > > > > You may hate his policies, and perhaps with good reason, but endless repetition of the word “Marxist” is never going to turn Obama into a Marxist. It only makes you sound foolish. > > Sigh. > > > [@](#): > > > > The three primary aspects of Marxism are: > > > > 1. The dialectical and materialist concept of history — Humankind’s history fundamentally is a struggle between social classes. The productive capacity of society is the foundation of society, and as this capacity increases over time the social relations of production, class relations, evolve through this struggle of the classes and pass through definite stages (primitive communism, slavery, feudalism, capitalism). The legal, political, ideological and other aspects (e.g. art) of society are derived from these production relations as is the consciousness of the individuals of which the society is composed. > > 2. The critique of capitalism — Marx argues that in capitalist society, an economic minority (the bourgeoisie) dominate and exploit an economic majority (the proletariat). Marx argues that capitalism is exploitative, specifically the way in which unpaid labor (surplus value) is extracted from the working class (the labor theory of value), extending and critiquing the work of earlier political economists on value. Such commodification of human labor according to Marx, creates an arrangement of transitory serfdom. He argued that while the production process is socialized, ownership remains in the hands of the bourgeoisie. This forms the fundamental contradiction of capitalist society. Without the elimination of the fetter of the private ownership of the means of production, human society is unable to achieve further development. > > 3. Advocacy of proletarian revolution — In order to overcome the fetters of private property the working class must seize political power internationally through a social revolution and expropriate the capitalist classes around the world and place the productive capacities of society into collective ownership. Upon this, material foundation classes would be abolished and the material basis for all forms of inequality between humankind would dissolve. > > [Marxism - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism) > > Obama hits on all three points. Assuming we give you #2, because we’re feeling generous… perhaps you could point to Obama’s framing of history as class struggle, or better still, his advocacy of proletarian revolution. No? Please stop talking then, or at least say something sensible. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-specifically-do-republicans-hate-obama/553181/125 "2010-09-12T02:42:36Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > Anyway, assuming he’s a Marxist, why is that considered such a ghastly word in the US? Because it is associated with the Soviets, Mao, the North Koreans, Ho Chi Minh, Pol Pot, Fidel Castro, etc . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [pause for a _really_ long time here for effect] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . none of whom actually are/were Marxists. It’s also associated with Marx, who summed up Marxism as . . . . . . . the abolition of private property. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-specifically-do-republicans-hate-obama/553181/126 "2010-09-12T02:49:49Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > > [@Cisco](#): > > > > Anyway, assuming he’s a Marxist, why is that considered such a ghastly word in the US? Because it is associated with the Soviets, Mao, the North Koreans, Ho Chi Minh, Pol Pot, Fidel Castro, etc . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . [pause for a _really_ long time here for effect] . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . none of whom actually are/were Marxists. > > It’s also associated with Marx, who summed up Marxism as . . . . > > . . . the abolition of private property. I honestly don’t think it’s all that strongly associated with Marx, who never ran a country, a killed anyone to my knowledge. ---
**Author:** ![Dick\_Dastardly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c4cdca/32.png) [@Dick\_Dastardly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dick_Dastardly)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-specifically-do-republicans-hate-obama/553181/127 "2010-09-13T12:15:37Z")
> [@Una\_Persson](#): > > 1. I’m sorry, I’m sort of laughing my ass off here - since when did bloggers become respected peer-reviewed sources of factual information? I know blogs are “teh kewl” and all among non-scientists, but seriously, they’re the tool of the slipshod researcher to rely upon, and I say this having myself been guilty of relying too much on one or the other blog in the past when I’ve been lazy. Real research does not happen in or about blogs. If I presented a technical paper at a conference and listed a blog in my references, I would be hooted off the stage, let alone the fact it would be rejected for publication. He’s just some guy preaching from his online pulpit. Even if he had some credence it’s a sample size of one. That’s a non-partisan statement. > 2. Um…didn’t that little “9/11” bugaboo and two freaking wars impact that? Just an itsy-bitsy bit? A smidge? A trifle? Two memes on this message board which I wish would really die out are: > > 1. Democrats were SOLELY responsible for the Clinton-era balanced budget. > 2. Bush and the Republicans skyrocketed the deficit and 9/11 and two wars had NOTHING to do with it. > > > [@](#): > > > > No paritsanship there, eh? So you can see he’s got an actual factual basis for questioning whether the GOP will stick to PAYGO. They already scrapped it once and voted en bloc to stop it being reintroduced. > > I didn’t say there was no partisanship, nor that Republicans did not obstruct that, nor that they were not being stupid. Unless you want to post a link showing where I did. 1. He’s a professor of economics, former US Treasury official and somebody with a track record of being right over the past decade, especially about the housing bubble, the economic meltdown, and particularly about how the recovery from the meltdown would go. As far as his qualifications to understand the US budget and his actual track record of predictions compared to how things turned out go, it would be really difficult to find somebody better than this guy. 2. 9/11 cost the economy about $100 billion, or roughly what it cost to fund the Iraq war for a few months back when it was in full swing. > **[Economic effects of the September 11 attacks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_effects_arising_from_the_September_11_attacks)** > > The September 11 attacks in 2001 were followed by initial shocks causing global stock markets to drop sharply. In international and domestic markets, stocks of companies in some sectors were hit particularly hard. Travel and entertainment stocks fell, while communications, pharmaceutical and military/defense stocks rose. Online travel agencies particularly suffered, as they cater to leisure travel. The attacks themselves resulted in approximately $40 billion in insurance losses, making it one o... And it really was the GOP who took an actual budget surplus, scrapped PAYGO and went on the biggest unfunded spending spree in history. A huge chunk of the spending for the wars came in the form of budget supplementals and wasn’t even included in the official US budget numbers. ---
**Author:** ![Dick\_Dastardly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c4cdca/32.png) [@Dick\_Dastardly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dick_Dastardly)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-specifically-do-republicans-hate-obama/553181/128 "2010-09-13T12:17:25Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > And it was the Democrats who put teeth in PAYGO and used it to turn a record budget deficit into a record surplus. > > Refresh my memory - which party controlled Congress the last time the budget was balanced? > > Regards, > Shodan The same party that then scrapped PAYGO rules when a Republican president got elected. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-specifically-do-republicans-hate-obama/553181/129 "2010-09-13T13:32:51Z")
> [@Dick\_Dastardly](#): > > > [@Shodan](#): > > > > Refresh my memory - which party controlled Congress the last time the budget was balanced? > > > > Regards, > > Shodan > > The same party that then scrapped PAYGO rules when a Republican president got elected. In other words, it is not true that “it was the Democrats who put teeth in PAYGO and used it to turn a record budget deficit into a record surplus.” That statement is false. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-specifically-do-republicans-hate-obama/553181/130 "2010-09-13T15:30:57Z")
The rich Repubs hate Obama because he may cost them money. The Bush tax cuts fell into their laps and they love it. If Obama gets the tax bill changed so the super rich don’t suck up more tax dollars, it would cost them. It is obvious why they hate him. The religion of money. ---
**Author:** ![Dick\_Dastardly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c4cdca/32.png) [@Dick\_Dastardly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dick_Dastardly)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-specifically-do-republicans-hate-obama/553181/131 "2010-09-13T16:16:39Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > > [@Dick\_Dastardly](#): > > > > The same party that then scrapped PAYGO rules when a Republican president got elected. > > In other words, it is not true that “it was the Democrats who put teeth in PAYGO and used it to turn a record budget deficit into a record surplus.” That statement is false. > > Regards, > Shodan No, it’s dead accurate. It was the Deficit Reduction Act of 1993 that laid the foundation for the budget surplus, before the GOP won in 1994. It raised taxes and the GOP were dead against it, telling us the tax increases would lead to economic meltdown and fiscal disaster. That turned out not to be the case. We only got the economic meltdown and fiscal disaster when they took the White House, abolished PAYGO, etc. etc. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-specifically-do-republicans-hate-obama/553181/132 "2010-09-13T16:32:08Z")
Black is white, up is down, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength. _:shrugs:_ Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-specifically-do-republicans-hate-obama/553181/133 "2010-09-13T17:01:00Z")
> [@Dick\_Dastardly](#): > > 1. 9/11 cost the economy about $100 billion, or roughly what it cost to fund the Iraq war for a few months back when it was in full swing. > > [Economic effects of the September 11 attacks - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_effects_arising_from_the_September_11_attacks) > > And it really was the GOP who took an actual budget surplus, scrapped PAYGO and went on the biggest unfunded spending spree in history. A huge chunk of the spending for the wars came in the form of budget supplementals and wasn’t even included in the official US budget numbers. 9/11 and the two wars are inextricably linked, at least for the first several years. And let us not sweep under the rug that fact that Democrats overwhelmingly supported both wars, the just and the unjust, and did not stop funding of them at any point, even when they took control of both houses of Congress. As I said, didn’t Pelosi run on a pledge she would show old man Bush who was boss? How’d that work out for Democrats? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-specifically-do-republicans-hate-obama/553181/134 "2010-09-13T17:04:14Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Black is white, up is down, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength. > > _:shrugs:_ > > Regards, > Shodan Reciting conservative dogma isn’t a valuable contribution to the thread. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-specifically-do-republicans-hate-obama/553181/135 "2010-09-13T17:04:41Z")
You’re better than that, **Una**. How on earth is 9/11 linked to the second war? ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-specifically-do-republicans-hate-obama/553181/136 "2010-09-13T17:24:18Z")
> [@Mozart1220](#): > > You teach your children that this is the way to solve their problems? There’s hardly any time for that with all the effort required to teach them to smoke, drink, run up debts they can’t pay back, and practice unsafe sex. Obviously you don’t have any children.😛 ---
**Author:** ![Dick\_Dastardly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c4cdca/32.png) [@Dick\_Dastardly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dick_Dastardly)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-specifically-do-republicans-hate-obama/553181/137 "2010-09-13T17:31:28Z")
> [@Una\_Persson](#): > > > [@Dick\_Dastardly](#): > > > > 1. 9/11 cost the economy about $100 billion, or roughly what it cost to fund the Iraq war for a few months back when it was in full swing. > > > > [Economic effects of the September 11 attacks - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_effects_arising_from_the_September_11_attacks) > > > > And it really was the GOP who took an actual budget surplus, scrapped PAYGO and went on the biggest unfunded spending spree in history. A huge chunk of the spending for the wars came in the form of budget supplementals and wasn’t even included in the official US budget numbers. > > 9/11 and the two wars are inextricably linked, at least for the first several years. And let us not sweep under the rug that fact that Democrats overwhelmingly supported both wars, the just and the unjust, and did not stop funding of them at any point, even when they took control of both houses of Congress. As I said, didn’t Pelosi run on a pledge she would show old man Bush who was boss? How’d that work out for Democrats? Let’s say that the two wars really were linked to 9/11, something that is debatable at least as far as the Iraq war goes. Even then, the Iraq war especially was almost all funded by budget supplementals, which don’t show up on the official budget numbers : In his [address](http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-of-President-Barack-Obama-Address-to-Joint-Session-of-Congress/) last night on the economic crisis, President Barack Obama made it official: No more budgetary sleight-of-hand at the Pentagon. [As we have noted here before](http://blog.wired.com/defense/2009/01/gates.html), the U.S. military has largely paid for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan through emergency spending measures, in effect keeping wartime costs off the books. In addition to masking skyrocketing budget growth at the Department of Defense, this process has allowed the services to treat budget supplementals as a piggy bank for new procurement. Members of Congress may have grumbled about poor oversight, but they have largely acquiesced. Obama’s message? Not anymore. “That is why this budget looks ahead ten years and accounts for spending that was left out under the old rules – and for the first time, that includes the full cost of fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan,” he said. “For seven years, we have been a nation at war. No longer will we hide its price.” [http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/02/weighing-the-ir/](http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/02/weighing-the-ir/) Now again it’s a blog, but like mt previous blog link it’s referencing actual facts and evidence, in the first blog post a CBO report and in this one the fact that most of the Bush administration’s war funding was done off the books. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-specifically-do-republicans-hate-obama/553181/138 "2010-09-13T17:32:20Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > You’re better than that, **Una**. How on earth is 9/11 linked to the second war? Easy. The Republicans linked them. Over and over and over. Weren’t you listening? ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-specifically-do-republicans-hate-obama/553181/139 "2010-09-13T17:53:28Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > You’re better than that, **Una**. How on earth is 9/11 linked to the second war? Review what I wrote: > [@](#): > > 9/11 and the two wars are inextricably linked, **at least for the first several years.** See that last part? Why would I include that? Because it was **not factually linked** , but **politically linked**. For the first few years after 9/11 support for punishing the 9/11 murderers, politically speaking, meant supporting the wars. As far as politics goes, it was all that big ol’ Axis o’ Evil. As time dragged on, opinions changed and people changed, and as a result it was possible for politicians to sever one from the other. [QUOTE=Dick Dastardly] Let’s say that the two wars really were linked to 9/11, something that is debatable at least as far as the Iraq war goes. Even then, the Iraq war especially was almost all funded by budget supplementals, which don’t show up on the official budget numbers : [/QUOTE] For your first part, see my answer above. For the second part, are you saying that President Bush, with no Congressional oversight or any Congressional possibility of stopping it whatsoever, was able to unilaterally spend hundreds of billions of dollars, and the Congress could do nothing about it? I don’t buy that for a second. Which is my point - Bush may have forced the War in Iraq on us, may even have done so unethically, but again let’s see if the SDMB hardliners can stop pretending like the Congress - including Democrats - did not hand it to him on a silver platter. Even after the Democrats controlled both houses. I’m glad Obama is changing things. It should have been changed on Inauguration Day, just like many things he promised but did not deliver on. ---
**Author:** ![Dick\_Dastardly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c4cdca/32.png) [@Dick\_Dastardly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dick_Dastardly)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-specifically-do-republicans-hate-obama/553181/140 "2010-09-13T21:25:48Z")
> [@Una\_Persson](#): > > > [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > > > You’re better than that, **Una**. How on earth is 9/11 linked to the second war? > > Review what I wrote: > > See that last part? Why would I include that? Because it was **not factually linked** , but **politically linked**. For the first few years after 9/11 support for punishing the 9/11 murderers, politically speaking, meant supporting the wars. As far as politics goes, it was all that big ol’ Axis o’ Evil. As time dragged on, opinions changed and people changed, and as a result it was possible for politicians to sever one from the other. > > > [@Dick Dastardly](#): > > > > Let’s say that the two wars really were linked to 9/11, something that is debatable at least as far as the Iraq war goes. Even then, the Iraq war especially was almost all funded by budget supplementals, which don’t show up on the official budget numbers : > > For your first part, see my answer above. For the second part, are you saying that President Bush, with no Congressional oversight or any Congressional possibility of stopping it whatsoever, was able to unilaterally spend hundreds of billions of dollars, and the Congress could do nothing about it? I don’t buy that for a second. > > Which is my point - Bush may have forced the War in Iraq on us, may even have done so unethically, but again let’s see if the SDMB hardliners can stop pretending like the Congress - including Democrats - did not hand it to him on a silver platter. Even after the Democrats controlled both houses. > > I’m glad Obama is changing things. It should have been changed on Inauguration Day, just like many things he promised but did not deliver on. Bush funded the war through supplementals and every time he had to get one of them signed off by congress he threatened the Dems with being painted as denying funding for the troops if they didn’t vote for the supplemental. Yes, the Dems could have stood up to him and blocked funding for the troops but for craven political reasons they didn’t. But that’s irrelevant to the point I’m making which is that Bush’s wars were largely funded in this way and because of that their cost didn’t feature in the official budget numbers. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-specifically-do-republicans-hate-obama/553181.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-specifically-do-republicans-hate-obama/553181.md?page=8)