# Why SPECIFICALLY do Republicans hate Obama?

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**Created:** [September 9, 2010, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-specifically-do-republicans-hate-obama/553181 "2010-09-09T14:33:53Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-specifically-do-republicans-hate-obama/553181/112 "2010-09-10T21:37:37Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> It is significant that Nixon was the last Republican POTUS elected before movement conservatism took control of the GOP. Apparently, movement conservatism does not equate to fiscal conservatism.

“Fiscal conservatism” has [del]two[/del] three meanings. The careful, responsible, long-term planning meaning, & the “cut taxes on the rich” meaning–and the “bankrupt the government to destroy the welfare state” subset thereof.

> [@Algher](#):
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> The health care bill is crap. It is too big, too complicated, and does not fix our root problems of employer based coverage (part of the system thanks to FDR and WWII price controls) and coverage for those with certain long-term illnesses if they fall off of a plan (endemic to a profit-based risk-sharing system with individual buy-in).

Hi, Algher.

Sounds like you are sad that Obama didn’t push for expanded single-payer & a more rational system than the present one, considering the GOP certainly won’t. What kind of crap excuse for a left do we have in this country, amirite? …Actually, I can respect that.

But consider the Democratic Party’s position. Every time they propose a regulation (like, “Companies selling insurance have to provide it when the customer needs it”) or raise a tax (even back to historic norms), they’re denounced as communists & unAmerican–as aliens in effect. And about a third of the country believes it! After a while, a centrist patriotic party like the Dems gets worn down.

I’m foolsguinea, & I’m a former GOP voter. I had to learn to stop legitimizing that party.

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> After that, most of it remains to be seen. We put up a crap candidate, and we deserved our ass-kicking in the last election. We “deserve” to get back some seats only because the Democrats haven’t solved all of the nation’s problems.

Hardly. This is the fallacy of a two-party system. The GOP screwed up, big. Four years in the wilderness is not long enough. And you can’t blame the moderate Dem establishment for not solving all the nation’s problems in two years as if that’s equivalent to the GOP creating so many problems in 12 years.

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> The electorate is pissed, scared, nervous and cranky and will grab onto whoever promises them SOMETHING to make it all better (sounds like my kids when they were toddlers).

Well, yes, there’s a reason we don’t give toddlers the vote.

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