# Why The Corona Virus Crisis Will Ensure Trump's Re-Election **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 28, 2020, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470 "2020-03-28T00:08:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/41 "2020-03-29T02:12:24Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > All over the nation its been democrats imposing lockdowns and chaining playgrounds and parks. People will remember. I dont think our youth will forget the bashing they got from democrats and their allies in the MSM for doing spring break. Honestly, thanks. Liberals tend to forget what the world looks like to people living inside the right-wing bubble because their brains just can’t comprehend such unreality. We need reminders every few days. It’s like saying, pinch me to convince me I’m not dreaming. Anyway, out here in America “A bipartisan majority of Americans appear to reject an idea floated by President Donald Trump to reopen businesses by Easter, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll…” Bipartisan means Republicans too. The [Reuters/Ipsos poll](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-poll/bipartisan-majority-of-americans-reject-trump-idea-to-reopen-by-easter-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN21E3FQ) found that “89% of Democrats and 70% of Republicans” thought that the notion of reopening the country by Easter was nuttier than a 300,000 gallon tank of pistachio ice cream. That’s probably why only “31% of Americans were ‘very likely’ to follow Trump’s recommendations and guidance regarding the coronavirus,” \*half \*as many as those who would follow doctors’ instructions. Oh, BTW, our spring-breaking youth don’t vote. You should know that, considering your party exists in power solely because of its dependence on the geriatric vote and has sabotaged all efforts to get younger voters to the polls, knowing they favor Democrats by about two to one. But by all means, do a 180 and get that youth vote going. I’ll help you every step of the way. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/42 "2020-03-29T03:27:38Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > Hm. I’m just trying to get my mind around that someone thinks he has not fatally stumbled yet. > > It has yet to be demonstrated that he is teflon and can kill americans en masse. > > If the public memory of turmp is “amnesia” but that of Hillary or obama is “forever” then we have had it as a two party system. We’'ll have to reform (voting, gerrymandering, terms, scotus, potus) or be moving to soft fascism. It’s not that he hasn’t stumbled yet. It’s that what happens in March never matters in an election. It’s not a hard concept and it will always remain true. It’s not about public memory or amnesia. It’s about how the individual feels their life and the country is doing the minute before they pull the lever. Or when they decide it’s not worth it to go to the polls. There is a long time between March and November. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/43 "2020-03-29T03:55:45Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > All over the nation its been democrats imposing lockdowns and chaining playgrounds and parks. People will remember. I dont think our youth will forget the bashing they got from democrats and their allies in the MSM for doing spring break. By next October, Trump will be claiming that he was the one that ordered the lockdowns and closings. And he’ll claim he had to fight the Democrats to get it done. And you’ll believe him. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/44 "2020-03-29T07:13:44Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Sorry, I got interrupted. > > Let’s look at the numbers again. Trump won in 2016 by the skin of his teeth. Everything had to break right for him. Clinton seemed well ahead until she got sandbagged by Comey in the last week. No poll predicted that. Few polls predicted the drop in African-American turnout. But even after a campaign of vileness, Trump won by a margin of 77,000 votes in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, each less than a one percent margin. > > Can he do that again? I look at RealClearPolitics (RCP) and FiveThiryEight (538) for recent polls. Michigan is gone; RCP has Biden leading by 10 points, 538 by 5. Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are closer, with Biden leading by about 3 points in RCP but Trump by a couple in 538, so within margin of error. > > What about other close states? Interestingly, there are very few. Trump won Florida by 1.2% and RCP has his polls are about that although 538 shows Biden leads in March polls. Trump won Arizona by 3.5 points. RCP has Biden up by that, 538 has them essentially tied. > > Can Trump win back any states that Clinton won by a narrow margin? She won New Hampshire by .4 points but there’s no recent polling. She won Nevada by 2.4 points but there’s no recent polling. She won Minnesota by 1.5 points but there’s no recent polling. Weird. > > All the other margins are over 5 points so they would require a major swing. It looks very much like the whole election comes down to the handful of “battleground” states again. So forget what the national picture looks like. Concentrate on Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida, and Minnesota. Maybe add on Arizona and Nevada. > > If Biden wins Michigan and Florida and the others stay in their columns, he wins 272-269. If he can’t win Florida then he has to win Pennsylvania and either Wisconsin or Arizona. > > Florida and Pennsylvania are where the action is. > > And don’t ask me what happens with the 6% of votes that went to other candidates. Will they play a part or be scattered to the winds? No idea. As far as the 3rd parties go, we can look back to 2004. The Greens definitely played spoiler in 2000 as well as the Pat Buchanan votes. 2004 was a loss for Kerry but it wasn’t because of third parties. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/45 "2020-03-29T12:10:33Z")
> [@RivkahChaya](#): > > Hillary Clinton lost because she was a woman. That’s all there is to it. There’s a little more to it than that, though. Biden is making the same mistakes that Clinton made, like running an overly-cautious campaign without really having a theme other than having a better personality than Trump. His outreach to minorities has been pretty weak as well. He’s not made a personal connection with his voters and his potential voters, and the timing couldn’t be worse because making that connection is a lot more difficult via Skype. ---
**Author:** ![Kimera757](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimera757/32/3765_2.png) [@Kimera757](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimera757)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/46 "2020-03-29T15:15:44Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > He dismantled our pandemic response, jsut before the biggest one in 100 years. So far he’s not owning it. His approval rating is currently increasing slightly. It would take a lot of deaths to change the minds of voters. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/47 "2020-03-29T15:17:08Z")
Trump [sent 18 tons](https://www.state.gov/the-united-states-announces-assistance-to-combat-the-novel-coronavirus/) of medical equipment to China in early February. Now there is a shortage. There is video of the pallets (remember how much Republicans used to hate things on pallets being delivered to other country) being unloaded that will be in campaign ads momentarily. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/48 "2020-03-29T15:39:37Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > It might come down to how this virus plays out. > > Democrats frankly, better start hoping for bodies so they can blame Trump for not taking this seriously enough right away and imposing nationwide quarantines. If however numbers begin to stabilize and businesses sue to be able to reopen, Trump will get the credit. > > All over the nation its been democrats imposing lockdowns and chaining playgrounds and parks. People will remember. I dont think our youth will forget the bashing they got from democrats and their allies in the MSM for doing spring break. > > Thing is if Biden is elected this virus will probably come around again next winter and he will have to deal with it. The kids partying down in spring break don’t fucking vote. But when people lose their parents because their little monsters brought the virus back from Florida, they’re going to remember the Republican governor of Florida that allowed the partying to take place. Every single state at some point is going to go through a lockdown. It’s hard to get pissed at your own governor for doing what the other 49 governors have done. ---
**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/49 "2020-03-29T15:55:04Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I disagree. Hillary was neither a gifted nor inspirational speaker. She would have been a good president, but she wasn’t good at running for president. She had a lifelong obsession with being the first woman to break that glass ceiling, but gave no compelling case why people should vote for her. Much of it was not her fault, there were 25 years of constant Republican lies about her. That turned her persona into a pretty protective posture and she gave the impression of being cold and aloof. She ran against the most unqualified candidate for elective office in the history of civilization and still lost. You don’t win the presidency by acting like it’s your birthright, and that’s how she came across. To quote Colonel Hans Landa from _Inglourious Basterds_: “That’s a bingo!” ---
**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/50 "2020-03-29T16:10:52Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > It might come down to how this virus plays out. > > **Democrats frankly, better start hoping for bodies** so they can blame Trump for not taking this seriously enough right away and imposing nationwide quarantines. If however numbers begin to stabilize and businesses sue to be able to reopen, Trump will get the credit. > > All over the nation its been democrats imposing lockdowns and chaining playgrounds and parks. People will remember. I dont think our youth will forget the bashing they got from democrats and their allies in the MSM for doing spring break. > > Thing is if Biden is elected this virus will probably come around again next winter and he will have to deal with it. I’m not sure how much that (“hoping for bodies”) matters. Frankly, I don’t think it will matter all that much. Why not? Because the people who support the Toddler-in-Chief have made it VERY clear that they don’t adhere to facts or to reality in the way that the rest of us do. And you KNOW that if “the numbers” from this outbreak make the “Gilded God” look bad then Republicans (headed by Angry Lid’l’ Donny himself, of course) are gonna say (if they aren’t already) that they’re “made up” or that the REAL fault lies with “do-nothing Democrats.” If there is ONE thing that Republicans are absolute MASTERS at, it is outright LYING and getting a significant portion of our electorate to believe them while they do so. ---
**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/51 "2020-03-29T16:17:32Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > There’s a little more to it than that, though. Biden is making the same mistakes that Clinton made, like running an overly-cautious campaign without really having a theme other than having a better personality than Trump. His outreach to minorities has been pretty weak as well. He’s not made a personal connection with his voters and his potential voters, and the timing couldn’t be worse because making that connection is a lot more difficult via Skype. In short: He’s another mediocre (at BEST) candidate that Dems are putting up for Prez. 'Course, Republicans generally come up with nominees who are MUCH worse and yet they keep winning presidential elections more often than not. Why do you suppose that is, hm? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/52 "2020-03-29T16:30:56Z")
> [@racepug](#): > > And you KNOW that if “the numbers” from this outbreak make the “Gilded God” look bad then Republicans (headed by Angry Lid’l’ Donny himself, of course) are gonna say (if they aren’t already) that they’re “made up” or that the REAL fault lies with “do-nothing Democrats.” And/or either nutpick quotes on the Internet or just speculate out of whole cloth that “look, Democrats wanted more people to die because it will help them, they obviously hate America!” ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/53 "2020-03-29T16:35:11Z")
> [@racepug](#): > > In short: He’s another mediocre (at BEST) candidate that Dems are putting up for Prez. 'Course, Republicans generally come up with nominees who are MUCH worse and yet they keep winning presidential elections more often than not. Why do you suppose that is, hm? Ooh, oooh, I know. Because Republicans keep suppressing potential Democratic voters! What do I win? ---
**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/54 "2020-03-29T16:39:00Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Ooh, oooh, I know. Because Republicans keep suppressing potential Democratic voters! > > What do I win? Actually, that’s NOT the answer I was gonna give. But I’ll let some other people speculate before I weigh in on that topic, again. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/55 "2020-03-29T17:03:48Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > I dont think our youth will forget the bashing they got from democrats and their allies in the MSM for doing spring break. True, but probably not for the reasons you’re thinking of. [the University of Tampa has confirmed that at least five of those students have tested positive – and it turns out the students are feeling pretty bad about it.](https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/mar/28/americans-who-dont-take-coronavirus-seriously) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/56 "2020-03-29T17:19:02Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Ooh, oooh, I know. Because Republicans keep suppressing potential Democratic voters! > > What do I win? A cross wrapped in a swastika. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/57 "2020-03-29T18:10:04Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I disagree. Hillary was neither a gifted nor inspirational speaker. Well, no, but remember, we’re comparing her to [Joe Biden.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5vOkQq37Kw) ---
**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/58 "2020-03-30T13:13:46Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Ooh, oooh, I know. Because Republicans keep suppressing potential Democratic voters! > > What do I win? My answer is: because (somehow, some way) Republican nominees generally resonate with voters more than Democratic nominees do. It may be by lying through their teeth and uttering complete BS that anybody with half a brain would dismiss out-of-hand, but they find a way to do it. My point is that Democratic nominees for Prez need to do a better job of relating to people or they’re gonna keep losing to Republican candidates that they really have absolutely no business losing to. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/59 "2020-03-30T13:15:40Z")
The dude went from telling us that there were 15 cases and he as so awesome that there would be soon none to this: “If we have between 100,000 and 200,000 we’ve all together done a very good job,” Trump says. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/60 "2020-03-30T13:25:25Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Well, no, but remember, we’re comparing her to [Joe Biden.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5vOkQq37Kw) Joe is better than you might think. He gave a great speech after SC that I think cinched the nomination. He’ll be fine. The election is going to be run following or perhaps in the greatest humanitarian crisis in modern history against a monster who has no empathy whatsoever. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470.md?page=4)