# Why The Corona Virus Crisis Will Ensure Trump's Re-Election **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 28, 2020, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470 "2020-03-28T00:08:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/61 "2020-03-30T15:10:01Z")
Amid 10-20% unemployment and negative gdp. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/62 "2020-03-30T15:15:54Z")
> [@racepug](#): > > My answer is: because (somehow, some way) Republican nominees generally resonate with voters more than Democratic nominees do. No, they don’t. People say things like this and it’s objectively factually wrong. More people voted for Hillary Clinton than Donald Trump. More people voted for Al Gore than George W. Bush. Republicans win elections but they don’t do it by having popular support. If the people got to choose who was President, we wouldn’t have had a Republican in the White House since Reagan was in office. ---
**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/63 "2020-03-30T16:59:51Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > No, they don’t. > > People say things like this and it’s objectively factually wrong. More people voted for Hillary Clinton than Donald Trump. More people voted for Al Gore than George W. Bush. Republicans win elections but they don’t do it by having popular support. > > If the people got to choose who was President, we wouldn’t have had a Republican in the White House since Reagan was in office. But we have, haven’t we? Which makes YOU the one who are “factually wrong.” ---
**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/64 "2020-03-30T17:08:24Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > No, they don’t. > > People say things like this and it’s objectively factually wrong. More people voted for Hillary Clinton than Donald Trump. More people voted for Al Gore than George W. Bush. Republicans win elections but they don’t do it by having popular support. > > If the people got to choose who was President, we wouldn’t have had a Republican in the White House since Reagan was in office. I would argue that with the kinds of people the Republicans have put up for Prez since 1968 that Democrats should be on a 50+ year “winning streak” in that regard. But they’re not. If you have good reasons for that, please submit them for further scrutiny instead of merely “standing on the sidelines” and criticizing. Until then I hold to my position on this whether YOU like it or not. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2020, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/65 "2020-03-30T17:54:58Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > It’s not that he hasn’t stumbled yet. It’s that what happens in March never matters in an election. It’s not a hard concept and it will always remain true. It’s not about public memory or amnesia. It’s about how the individual feels their life and the country is doing the minute before they pull the lever. Or when they decide it’s not worth it to go to the polls. > > There is a long time between March and November. You are not addressing the fact that IIAD it matters but IIAR it doesn’t. There are structural and educational problems to address. ---
**Author:** ![Brayne\_Ded](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Brayne\_Ded](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brayne_Ded)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/66 "2020-04-01T13:08:55Z")
My guess is that it will depend on the death toll, The USA has the largest number of cases of any country, but fewer deaths so far - Spain and Italy are the worst hit and still going. However, if the death toll climbs dramatically then Trump will be seen as having mismanaged the crisis and will lose support in the election. But 2016 came down to one thing; Clinton was actively disliked by many, including Democrats, so they either refrained from voting or voted for Trump, not expecting him to get in. A bland Democratic candidate does not have that disadvantage. That said, why is Biden the best that they can do? Saw a news report today saying that Andrew Cuomo of NY would be a great candidate if only he was willing to run. Now we can only wait and see whether this ends up as a repeat of the “Spanish 'flu” with a massive death toll, or a big scare like the swine fever. I just wonder how long it will last, how many it will kill, and how long it will take to get back to normal afterwards. Lots of businesses will not survive this. ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/67 "2020-04-01T13:53:15Z")
Any other president would probably be at much higher approval ratings right now. His bump is extremely modest for a crisis situation. Not that I don’t think he will beat Biden, I do. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/68 "2020-04-01T14:24:57Z")
He’s already mismanaged it by turfing your government’s pandemic response time and allocating medical resources to various states based on how much he thinks they like him. Arguing that this isn’t gross mismanagement is a tough row to hoe. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/69 "2020-04-01T15:11:06Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > He’s already mismanaged it by turfing your government’s pandemic response time and allocating medical resources to various states based on how much he thinks they like him. Arguing that this isn’t gross mismanagement is a tough row to hoe. Is FOX covering this “mismanagement,” or are they painting him as a brilliant savior? Let me guess… ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/70 "2020-04-01T16:26:02Z")
> [@Brayne\_Ded](#): > > Saw a news report today saying that Andrew Cuomo of NY would be a great candidate if only he was willing to run. Yes, he’s very popular now. But if you live in New York you probably would rather see Chris Cuomo as the candidate even if you’re a life-long Democrat. Andrew is a bully, almost as much as Trump. He doesn’t work well with others and his basic morality is similarly questionable. He shut down an ethics commission while it was investigating people close to him. His record of accomplishment is spotty. He’s great in an emergency where all he does is bark orders. As a day-to-day leader he’s iffy at best. It goes without saying that he’s miles better than any possible Republican but that’s a ridiculously low bar. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/71 "2020-04-01T17:55:39Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Yes, he’s very popular now. But if you live in New York you probably would rather see Chris Cuomo as the candidate even if you’re a life-long Democrat. Andrew is a bully, almost as much as Trump. He doesn’t work well with others and his basic morality is similarly questionable. He shut down an ethics commission while it was investigating people close to him. His record of accomplishment is spotty. > > He’s great in an emergency where all he does is bark orders. As a day-to-day leader he’s iffy at best. > > It goes without saying that he’s miles better than any possible Republican but that’s a ridiculously low bar. Remember that Giuliani was pretty popular right after 9/11, too. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/72 "2020-04-01T18:42:38Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Remember that Giuliani was pretty popular right after 9/11, too. :rolleyes: I’ll never understand why. He didn’t do anything that anybody else wouldn’t have done. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/73 "2020-04-01T23:48:10Z")
> [@racepug](#): > > But we have, haven’t we? Which makes YOU the one who are “factually wrong.” Yes, Republicans have won elections. But they did it by manipulating the system not by “resonating with the voters”. We need to see this truth so we can focus on the real problem and apply the right solution. We need to fix the election system to restore democracy to it. We don’t need to fix the Democratic party. ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/74 "2020-04-03T13:53:54Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > The kids partying down in spring break don’t fucking vote. But when people lose their parents because their little monsters brought the virus back from Florida, they’re going to remember the Republican governor of Florida that allowed the partying to take place. Every single state at some point is going to go through a lockdown. It’s hard to get pissed at your own governor for doing what the other 49 governors have done. The parents that will be lost by what their babies brought back don’t live in Florida, nor do their babies. They won’t give a rat’s ass about the Governor Florida and even if they do, they can’t vote in Florida. If you’re implying that they will hold entire Republican party and Trump, specifically, responsible for what happened in Florida, I disagree. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/75 "2020-04-03T15:14:04Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Remember that Giuliani was pretty popular right after 9/11, too. :rolleyes: I think it was Biden who said all Giuliani said was a noun, a verb and 9/11. Great comment. I think that was when Rudy ran for president. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/76 "2020-04-03T16:04:04Z")
Trump said he could kill one person in the middle of New York City and nobody would care. But we’ll see if he can kill ten thousand people in New York City and get away with it. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/77 "2020-04-03T16:52:42Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Ooh, oooh, I know. Because Republicans keep suppressing potential Democratic voters! > > What do I win? > [@racepug](#): > > Actually, that’s NOT the answer I was gonna give. But I’ll let some other people speculate before I weigh in on that topic, again. Yeah, but it’s the [right answer](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-georgia-house-speaker-turnout). > [@](#): > > Georgia House Speaker David Ralston (R) said the quiet part out loud Wednesday, bashing the secretary of state’s move to mail out absentee ballot applications to the state’s registered voters because the higher voter participation “will be extremely devastating to Republicans and conservatives in Georgia.” > > “Every registered voter is going to get one of these,” he added in an interview with FetchYourNews, a local news site. “This will certainly drive up turnout.” ---
**Author:** ![chargerrich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chargerrich/32/5399_2.png) [@chargerrich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chargerrich)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/78 "2020-04-03T16:55:05Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Trump said he could kill one person in the middle of New York City and nobody would care. But we’ll see if he can kill ten thousand people in New York City and get away with it. Well said… sadly i think i know the answer. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/79 "2020-04-07T15:45:06Z")
> [@chargerrich](#): > > Well said… sadly i think i know the answer. ☹ For many Republicans, and most Trumpists, killing a New Yorker or a few thousand is a feature, not a bug. Not real Americans, you know. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470/80 "2020-04-07T16:12:17Z")
I’m going to trump Georgia House Speaker David Ralston with Trump. On Fox and Friends [he said](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/03/30/trump-voting-republicans/), out loud, about the funding package “that would have vastly increased funding for absentee and vote-by-mail options”: > [@](#): > > “The things they had in there were crazy,” Trump said. “They had things — levels of voting that, if you ever agreed to it, you’d never have a Republican elected in this country again.” Game’s over, right-wingers. You can never hoist the flag of voting security again. There’s only one reason for their efforts and it’s voter suppression. Will that be sufficient to get Trump re-elected? Right now all bets are off. Anything is possible in a world turned upside-down. I’m done speculating. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-corona-virus-crisis-will-ensure-trumps-re-election/850470.md?page=5)