Surely you mean a thread discussing “why the fanboyism surrounding Webley revolvers?”
edited to add: I once had a beloved terrier whom I had named Webley in honor of those very revolvers.
Surely you mean a thread discussing “why the fanboyism surrounding Webley revolvers?”
edited to add: I once had a beloved terrier whom I had named Webley in honor of those very revolvers.
[Peter Griffin]Touche, salesman.[/Peter Griffin]
There’s no fanboyism surrounding Webley revolvers, alas. There aren’t any dedicated Webley discussion boards on the net and most of those of us with a serious academic interest in the revolvers generally have at least a passing acquaintance with each other online.
Well, in that case, all is forgiven!
I do think that in one aspect the fanboy comparison that Dropzone made between 1911’s and Harleys is totally accurate: Wankers with too much time and too much money have taken something pretty cool and pushed the price point on them through the stratosphere. Yeah, I know I can get a Taurus PT1911 for around $500, but if I want a real, realiable and accurate Colt 1911 $500 isn’t going to even cover the shipping back and forth between Ed Brown and and Les Baer to get the gun worked over.
While I’ll always want one, it’ll probably never happen unless I chance into one at a steal. When you’re talking $2k plus for one gun I’d rather parcel that money out and have two or three different guns.
If you’re planning on getting the gun tricked out by Brown, Baer, Cylinder & Slide or one of the other shops, consider looking for a used gun. All you need is one with a good, sound frame and slide. All the other bits and pieces will be replaced anyway and you’ll probably want it refinished as well.
And pearl handled grips, and 24k gold filligree engravings of my initials on the slide and…basically if I ever had the cash I’d build myself a pistol that even a pimp or a Texas Ranger would be embarassed to carry. But I have my .45 already, and there’s no 1911 worth my HK USP. Now if I was going to dump $2k on a single gun, well, now we’re talking about a Colt SAA.
It’s the gun of The Phantom.
'nuff said.
Also remember that the last time I paid much attention to either was nearly 40 years ago, when AMF owned H-D and an awful lot of M1911s were straight out of Dad’s foot locker of souvenirs. I am not arguing, if I were arguing, from a position of current knowledge, but I do see the magazine articles, catalogs, and websites and know you can build a “Harley” that never saw Milwaukee or a complete M1911 out of materials unknown in 1911.
I have to admit to doing a little real-life shopping for a Webley a couple years back. Or maybe a nice S&W.
And with gas prices as they are and $99/month an XL883 is looking pretty good, too. It’s not a “girl bike” if a guy is riding it.
I have a USP. It’s a fine gun but I don’t like it quite as much as a 1911.
Like the Glock, if the USP doesn’t fit you, there isn’t much to be done about it. You can make the grips bigger, I guess, with slip-on grip sleeves; but if you need it smaller you’re out of luck. I’ve never heard of anybody doing surgery on a USP frame as is sometimes done to Glocks. There isn’t a hollow space in the grip to work with as on the Glock, anyway.
The raised checkering on my USP is crazy aggressive. Once could take sandpaper to it, I guess.
My USP is set up so it can be carried cocked and locked like a 1911. Even so, the trigger on my USP is nothing about which to write sonnets. Not aware of anybody who does trigger jobs on them, but that doesn’t mean there is nobody. Every USP I ever handled had a longer trigger reset, even in single action, than I personally like.
Now the USP is really accurate, right out of the box. Much more so than any service-grade 1911 I’ve fired. At typical combat range, I’m not sure the edge in accuracy matters, though all other things being equal more accurate = better IMO.
The USP also has an edge in ammo capacity over traditional 1911’s. All other things being equal, more ammo also = better.
The USP is simpler to field strip than the 1911 and is more tolerant of things like lack of lubrication. Based on the torture tests H&K subjected it to, I think you could probably make a case that the USP is closer to indestructable.
So, once again it comes down to my personal preference for being able to make the gun fit me, rather than vice versa, and a really first class trigger giving the 1911 the nod over a gun which is arguably better in other ways.