# Why the hate for dairy? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 21, 2025, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hate-for-dairy/1017285 "2025-04-21T02:43:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hate-for-dairy/1017285/41 "2025-04-21T15:08:13Z")
Hard to top the Sardinians—unless it [wriggles](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8F-0Ogp4fU), I think we’re safe. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hate-for-dairy/1017285/42 "2025-04-21T15:10:58Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I think this is related. It is a fact that, for some people, gluten is bad. It is a fact that, for some people, dairy is bad. But people as a whole aren’t very good with fine nuance, and so a lot of people take that and convert it to “Gluten and dairy must therefore be bad for everyone”. I sometimes wonder if it’s a form of conspicuous consumption. A lot of these alternative diets are either inconvenient, more expensive, or both. Look at me! I have refined gastronomical needs, so I can’t eat the simple foods the proles eat. Bring me my organic, gluten free rice crackers and my artisanal goji berry salsa. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hate-for-dairy/1017285/43 "2025-04-21T15:18:21Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > I remember a Top Ten list from David Letterman’s show back in the 80s where the topic was “Top Ten News Headlines For The Year 2000” and one of the items was “Oat Bran: The Silent Killer”. I remember there was a huge oat bran fad in the 80s, and my parents were buying anything and everything with oat bran in it. Cereal, bread, _lots_ of muffins. And I discovered that my system doesn’t deal well with too much of it, it comes out rather explosively in the bathroom. So my point is, there is nothing silent about it! 😆 ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hate-for-dairy/1017285/44 "2025-04-21T15:54:28Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Eating a balanced diet with calorie limitation is so ~~bo-oring~~ difficult to monetize, so we must hunt for extreme solutions. I recall a discussion w/ a young person who was high up in management with a chain of coffee shops. She was all excited over some new sandwich or something. I said something like, “Why don’t they just sell bananas?” Her response was, “How much do you think we can mark up a banana?” I think they truly wanted to sell high quality healthy food. But low cost nutrition/fuel could be had so much more cheaply. ---
**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hate-for-dairy/1017285/45 "2025-04-21T15:57:09Z")
> [@Tibby](#): > > My vegan daughters tried to gross me out by telling me cow’s milk is full of pus. Nice try, kids—but it didn’t work. > > Sure, milk _does_ contain somatic cells, mostly leukocytes (white blood cells), especially if the cow has mastitis (an udder infection). That sounds gross in theory—and if my glass of milk contained, say, a million such cells, that would be udderly disgusting. But the FDA sets a strict legal limit of 750,000 somatic cells per milliliter in milk sold commercially. So… bottoms up! And pass the cookies, kids! To specifically answer the question in the OP: this. As I’m sure I’ve said a few times before, I read this in _Diet for a New America_ (1987) and can’t ever forget it. I would no more drink a glass of milk than a glass of motor oil – it’s a really visceral revulsion. Of course, where cheese, cream, ice cream, sour cream, butter etc. are concerned, somehow I do manage to suppress that revulsion. Completely. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hate-for-dairy/1017285/46 "2025-04-21T16:51:52Z")
> [@Tibby](#): > > Cats love milk, and I give my cats milk occasionally for a treat. But, most cats are lactose intolerant, so it shouldn’t be given too often. My daughter is also lacrosse intolerant. We give the cats a bit of lactaid as a treat. The vet approves. (Especially for our anorexic cat.) ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hate-for-dairy/1017285/47 "2025-04-21T16:53:06Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > My daughter is also lacrosse intolerant. Outstanding autocorrect error. ---
**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hate-for-dairy/1017285/48 "2025-04-21T16:53:19Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Her response was, “How much do you think we can mark up a banana?” [A duct-taped banana sells for $6.2 million at an art auction : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2024/11/21/nx-s1-5199568/a-duct-taped-banana-sells-for-6-2-million-at-an-art-auction#:~:text=NEW%20YORK%20%E2%80%94%20A%20piece%20of,from%20a%20prominent%20cryptocurrency%20entrepreneur). ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hate-for-dairy/1017285/49 "2025-04-21T17:16:55Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Her response was, “How much do you think we can mark up a banana?” Ten dollars? ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hate-for-dairy/1017285/50 "2025-04-21T18:00:49Z")
That’s a dollar for the banana, 50 cents for the duct tape, and $6,199,998.50 to know how to position them/it. Both on the wall, and in the marketplace. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hate-for-dairy/1017285/51 "2025-04-21T20:13:07Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Her response was, “How much do you think we can mark up a banana?” I duct-taped a rutabaga to the wall and listed it on Facebook Marketplace for just $5 million. A steal, really—given the emotional depth and raw tuber energy. But, I got no bites. That only goes to show you—folks don’t like vegetables. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hate-for-dairy/1017285/52 "2025-04-22T00:58:25Z")
I have cataract surgery in two days and they said NO diary before. What am I supposed to put on my cereal? ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hate-for-dairy/1017285/53 "2025-04-22T01:00:27Z")
Iced Tea. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hate-for-dairy/1017285/54 "2025-04-22T01:23:37Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > What am I supposed to put on my cereal? Vanilla almond milk is freaking amazing with cereal. I mean, it’s practically like drinking a milkshake anyway, so with a cereal it’s insanely good. It’s also full of sugar and extremely unhealthy but if you want something _delicious_, go for it. And it’s not dairy. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hate-for-dairy/1017285/55 "2025-04-22T01:48:52Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > What am I supposed to put on my cereal? Bacon and eggs and toast and jam and butter and fried potatoes. Goes great with cereal. As long as you pick out the useless cereal and eat the good stuff. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hate-for-dairy/1017285/56 "2025-04-22T01:54:15Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > eggs and toast and jam That’s what I decided on too. ---
**Author:** ![pirviii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pirviii/32/3233_2.png) [@pirviii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pirviii)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hate-for-dairy/1017285/57 "2025-04-22T04:31:04Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > I have cataract surgery in two days and they said NO diary before. What am I supposed to put on my cereal? Beer, or so my dad told me from his Navy days. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hate-for-dairy/1017285/58 "2025-04-22T04:44:28Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > What am I supposed to put on my cereal? Bourbon. ---
**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hate-for-dairy/1017285/59 "2025-04-22T09:32:03Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > What am I supposed to put on my cereal? Elmer’s Glue—just like the pros use. Sure, the taste is meh, but your cereal will look like it belongs on the cover of _Breakfast Vogue_. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hate-for-dairy/1017285/60 "2025-04-22T13:39:48Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Vanilla almond milk is freaking amazing with cereal. We studiously avoid the vanilla flavored stuff, and go for the lowest calorie regular stuff. I guess if you are used to whole milk, that wouldn’t satisfy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hate-for-dairy/1017285.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hate-for-dairy/1017285.md?page=4)