Am I being whooshed? Cold pressed peanut oil sometimes still has peanut proteins it it, but hot pressed (more common) is fairly safe for kids with peanut allergies.
Pretty sure it’s the protein that triggers the reaction.
And I suspect part of the reason for the school ban thingy is that strawberry dust doesn’t bother people several seats away, while cracking shelled peanuts (for example) can release allergens into the air that will effect someone not in the immediate vicinity.
That came off incorrectly. (I realized that exactly 5:01 second after I posted, of course… I was hoping it would slip by.)
Not peanut oil like the cooking stuff, peanut oil like ‘stuff on peanuts that can rub off on your hands and you can get second hand.’
As in: You don’t actually have to consume a peanut in order to get an allergic reaction to peanuts. There was one kid in my class (in 3rd grade) who couldn’t eat anything prepared on a board where peanuts had been, or something like that.
Ah, ok. Gotcha. Disregard my post.
Peanut butter is also sticky. Kids get it on their hands and faces, and rub it around, so skin contact is a real danger. It’s got a strong smell and people often react just to that.
BTW, while peanut-allergic kids are not always allergic to tree nuts as well, they often are. My own kid is allergic to all legumes and all tree nuts, plus sesame seeds. The peanuts are the worst, though. I’ve got a little diagram that shows the severity of each different element (pistachios are medium-bad, almonds not so much, etc.)
Good point. And little kids at school have a lot more body contact than adults do at work - hence nits.
Your username fits this thread so well. 
So what I want to know is, if there is a year where there are no kids in the school with peanut allergies, or latex allergies, do they rescind the rules? Because I can’t imagine insisting your school be peanut-free if there is no one attending with the problem…
I find it hard to believe these kids are actually suffereing from anaphylaxis. I’ve worked in ERs in the early 80s and mid 90s and we saw only one or two cases.
Now every other day some mother is bringing her kid in for a single hive on his hand, screaming anaphylaxis and the doctors don’t want to get sued.
I used to have hives SO BAD, they’d swell my eyes and they’d turn black. My lips would, for lack of a better word, look like Ubangi Lips. But I never had the least bit trouble breathing.
But NOW I’d be diagnosed with anaphylaxis, but that is just wrong. True anaphylaxis is dangerous and life threatening and it’s rare.
Now doctors just don’t want to get sued so they say “don’t go near peanuts.”
I would love to see a true study of anaphylaxis and if those peanut allergies are real or imagined. Nothing like a panicked parent to make a kid panic and start him hyperventilating which parents then think the kid can’t breathe.
In the article I linked, the author addresses the definition of anaphylaxis & its misuse.
I realize that adults are generally more responsible than kids when dealing with their own allergies, and perhaps that alone makes up the difference, but if someone can have a severe allergy to something, such as peanuts, just by being in the room with them thereby necessitating a ban in schools… how are these people surviving adulthood? Everywhere I’ve worked/gone to university, people have had PB&J sandwiches, peanuts or peanut M&Ms or Reece’s Pieces or whatever all over the damn place. It just strikes me as odd.
Re: latex allergies; if your school is latex-free, then it should probably be strawberry-free as well. And apples, bananas, kiwis, peaches, plums, figs, grapes, melons, papaya, passion fruit, cherries, nectarines, pears, pineapples… from here. So much for healthy snack time… just give 'em chips and chocolate (except for the dairy allergies…)
I realize that true allergies are a serious thing, and even strong sensitivities can be a huge inconvenience for the sufferer, but sometimes I think people go overboard. At what level of protection is the world safe for everyone?
I read the title as Why the hate for penis?
My kid’s school has Peanut/Tree Nut free class rooms and a Peanut/Tree Nut free table in the lunch room. We can pack peanut lunches but not snacks, since he’s in one of those classrooms.
My nephew has a mild nut/peanut allergy and there’s currently no ban on peanuts at his preschool. There was last year; however, when a child who attended was severely allergic to peanuts. This year this a ban on mixed nuts because a child attends who as a severe cashew allergy. His school approaches the issue by banning the item that causes a known and legitimately severe reaction in anyone in attendance. And why wouldn’t they to potentially avoid killing someone’s child?
Why would anyone want to be the jackass parent who screams their child MUST HAVE CASHEWS AT SCHOOL? They seem bizarre, selfish and shrill. I don’t think the preschoolers are going to care if they can’t have them at school. They know they also don’t eat filet mignon and truffles at school. It’s just a fact of life and they can eat them after.
ETA: I realize that this response didn’t really answer the OP’s question, so I’ll say that in my (limited) experience, some schools will ban whatever presents an immediate and severe (not mild and rashy) threat to their attendees’ healths.
My youngest was allergic to peanuts (one of the 5-10% that outgrows it) but unlike kneejerk parents, we quickly realized that being in the same room as a PB&J isn’t going to hurt him. Smooching the girl that just ate the PB&J might be a problem, and shelling peanuts is a major problem (he once had a fairly severe reaction at an outdoor soccer game because a guy in a different section was eating them). But a peanut free table in the lunch room and no peanuts in the snacks was enough to keep him safe at school.
Peanut free schools is, in my opinion as the parent of an allergic kid, a major overreaction.
ETA - grade school and above, preschools and kindergartens are much smaller environments and I can think it’d make sense in that case.
Not every kid with a peanut allergy goes into prompt anaphylaxis. And parents with allergic children are generally in the habit of going to an allergist in order to get blood tests done, so they know exactly what to avoid. Our allergist, as I said above, gave us rankings for every allergen we tested for. Trust me, I am not imagining this, but thanks for the reminder that in general, everything is the mother’s fault.
My own kid doesn’t go into anaphylaxis, thank God; she vomits everything in her system up. Which is a great response. But she also gets tingling in her mouth and throat, and with enough exposures to peanuts, her body’s reactions can change to anaphylaxis. It’s unpredictable and gets worse with each exposure, which is why we have to take every exposure seriously and carry an EpiPen at all times, even though we have never used it.
Some kids outgrow their peanut allergies; I’ve been hoping that will happen to us, but it doesn’t look likely so far. It’s been nearly three years since the last time she ran into a peanut, and I had her re-tested several months ago, but the results were the same as ever, except now she’s kind of sensitive to bananas and cats too.
Many allergies are overblown and dudes worry about them too much (or they are fantasies). This is true of peanuts also. But generally, with something like strawberries you have to eat at least a good portion of one. With peanuts it can -rarely- be a tiny amount.
There was one study that linked peanut allergies to kids who had been fed with soymilk formula. iirc. Parents here with kids with peanut allergies?
It does seem to be a very tiny amount that gives my daughter problems. She’s never eaten, say, a bite of peanut butter. Last time, IIRC, it was a bite of a little chocolate egg with Butterfinger bits in it (at a friend’s house).
My daughter did drink soymilk formula for a couple of months. When I weaned her at 10 months (because I had gallstones and could no longer eat any fat and she quit growing), she had already shown signs of allergies–eczema, etc. She was allergic to milk formula and milk, so she had soy formula until 12 months and then switched to soy milk for a year, until she had outgrown the dairy allergy and could have milk. At the time, soy was miracle food and what doctors recommended. Now, obviously, I would choose something else, but it’s hard to say whether it would have changed anything; she was an allergic kid from the very beginning.
We’ve had some vitriolic discussions here on the Dope about people who assume that allergies are made up and try to sneak allergens into food in order to prove something. It’s always so fun when people try to take it upon themselves to diagnose other people’s medical issues. I just love that. :dubious:
Ah, thanks. I am taking an informal survey. Don’t think that your choice of soymilk was wrong- even if it did cause the peanut allergy (and that’s not proven yet, anyway), it may well have been the best choice at the time.
Well, some allergies are made up and some others are overblown. But no one should screw around with them that way. That’s very very dangerous. Even with the numbers and severity being exagerated by some, that doesn’t mean
that allergies are not very real and very dangerous sometimes. Kids can and do die from anaphylaxis.
What I don’t get are the people who are outraged at the peanut free schools, classrooms or tables because they can’t get their kids to eat anything but pbj. I do feel that all this banning is probably a little over the top, but that’s just crazy.
IMO of course.
It’s that bitch Lucy, she always tempts Charlie Brown with the football and always pulls it away at the last second.
I can’t get on board with that.
I want to re-iterate that I have no problem with the banning of peanuts if there is a good reason (such as a student with a known severe allergy), I just wondered if there were any reason behind banning the peanuts but not the other common allergens. I understand that the odds of other parents sending things like strawberries or shellfish for lunch/snack is slim, but tree nuts are also a common allergen and those have never (in my experience with 2 kids in various schools) been banned – just peanuts.
Now, I have known of kids who could just be around the peanut dust and get a reaction, but those same kids were also that way with tree nuts, but no one ever makes big deal out of tree nuts (maybe those kids were weirdos, who knows? not my kid, not my worry). My son was recently to an allergist due to a lot of snoring/bloody noses that all seemed to be allergy-related. We were right and he is (according to the allergist) allergic to every tree on earth (ok, maybe exaggeration, but every tree they tested at any rate) various and sundry grasses, dust, and about a billion other common things. We still insist that he go outside and play and we still make him help carry in the wood for the stove. We also take him for his allergy shots in the hopes of eliminating the issue. I just wonder why some people rank the peanut allergy up there as if it were kryptonite to superman or something.