# Why the heck was Don Cheadle uncredited in Ocean's Eleven?

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**Created:** [February 10, 2003, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-heck-was-don-cheadle-uncredited-in-oceans-eleven/154129 "2003-02-10T16:45:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-heck-was-don-cheadle-uncredited-in-oceans-eleven/154129/1 "2003-02-10T16:45:20Z")

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His role was bigger than many who were credited. Was there some legal reason for it? He was one of the eleven, fer Christ’s sake?

And I see from his [imdb.com](http://imdb.com) Trivia that he “Appears uncredited in two back-to-back movies, Rush Hour 2 (2001) and Ocean’s Eleven (2001). He played a criminal in both films.”

Anyone know the reason for him not being credited? Does it have something to do with playing a criminal?

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-heck-was-don-cheadle-uncredited-in-oceans-eleven/154129/2 "2003-02-10T16:53:13Z")

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OK, maybe I found the answer in a USENET posting found with Google:  
From someone calling themselves _Bluto ([gluteus@moonman.com](mailto:gluteus@moonman.com))_ in newsgroup alt.video.dvd

> [@](#):
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> FWIW, the following was posted in in Roger Ebert’s Chicago Sun-Times Answer  
> Man:
> 
> "Q. In a recent AM, you said Don Cheadle’s name was omitted from the credits  
> of “Ocean’s Eleven” as a kind of “reverse-prestige thing.” For what it’s  
> worth, Tom King of the Wall Street Journal has reported that after contentious  
> salary and credit negotiations with the film’s producers, a disgusted Mr.  
> Cheadle voluntarily withdrew his name altogether from consideration for  
> inclusion in the credits.
> 
> Ben Bass, Chicago
> 
> A. Thanks for setting the record straight."

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**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-heck-was-don-cheadle-uncredited-in-oceans-eleven/154129/3 "2003-02-10T16:53:32Z")

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That _is_ strange. Before the movie came out, I wondered why he received as much attention as he did. I remember teasers for interviews with the cast saying something to the effect of: "Friday! We talk to Brad Pitt, Julia Roberts, George Clooney, and _Don Cheadle_!

At the time I was like “Who’s Don Cheadle? And why are they pretending that he’s as big a star as the rest of them?”

No offense to Cheadle, of course. I know who he is now - and he’s excellent.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-heck-was-don-cheadle-uncredited-in-oceans-eleven/154129/4 "2003-02-10T17:09:30Z")

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I first noticed him in _Boogie Nights_. He is indeed an excellent actor.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-heck-was-don-cheadle-uncredited-in-oceans-eleven/154129/5 "2003-02-10T17:24:21Z")

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“We’re in Barney! . . . Rubble. . . Trouble!”  
Is Cheadle American? 'Cause that was a pretty good accent.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-heck-was-don-cheadle-uncredited-in-oceans-eleven/154129/6 "2003-02-10T17:43:27Z")

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He was born in Kansas City, Missouri accroding to the imdb.

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**Author:** ![Spurious\_George](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Spurious\_George](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spurious_George)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-heck-was-don-cheadle-uncredited-in-oceans-eleven/154129/7 "2003-02-10T17:54:48Z")

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Really, you thought that was a good accent? I thought it was one of the worst I ever heard.

I think Mr. Cheadle is one of our finest actors, but the accent nearly ruins a very good movie for me. I saw a preview screening of _Ocean’s Eleven_, and when I filled out the little card afterwards I _begged_ them to re-dub his lines.

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**Post date:** [February 10, 2003, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-heck-was-don-cheadle-uncredited-in-oceans-eleven/154129/8 "2003-02-10T18:08:11Z")

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His accent stunk, but that’s about the only thing he’s ever done badly. I’ve liked Cheadle since _Picket Fences_\*; Ocean’s 11 is his worst role by far. (Though the movie is fun.)

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**Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-heck-was-don-cheadle-uncredited-in-oceans-eleven/154129/9 "2003-02-12T02:28:13Z")

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His accent SUCKED in that crappy movie, but he is a damn fine actor who’s ability goes beyond typical Hollywood garbage.

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**Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-heck-was-don-cheadle-uncredited-in-oceans-eleven/154129/10 "2003-02-12T02:35:35Z")

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I thought his accent was pretty good, and said as much to the friend I saw the movie with.

He still hasn’t let me live it down.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-heck-was-don-cheadle-uncredited-in-oceans-eleven/154129/11 "2003-02-12T02:41:58Z")

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His accent sounded OK to me, but I’m just a stupid American who doesn’t know any better.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-heck-was-don-cheadle-uncredited-in-oceans-eleven/154129/12 "2003-02-12T03:01:05Z")

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> [@](#):
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> For what it’s worth, Tom King of the Wall Street Journal has reported that after contentious salary and credit negotiations with the film’s producers, a disgusted Mr. Cheadle voluntarily withdrew his name altogether from consideration for inclusion in the credits.

I hope it didn’t ruin his friendship with Steven Soderbergh, as he has appeared in several of his movies. I see that there is a sequel, **Ocean’s Twelve** , with one Producer also listed as being a Producer for **Ocean’s Eleven**. (Jerry Weintraub). It doesn’t say who the twelve will be yet in the IMDb page, though…

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**Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-heck-was-don-cheadle-uncredited-in-oceans-eleven/154129/13 "2003-02-12T03:58:26Z")

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Wasn’t he uncredited in _Traffic_ too?

I can’t quite remember the details but someone started a thread similar to this awhile back and speculated that he kept getting his name left out because Hollywood is racist, lol.

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**Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-heck-was-don-cheadle-uncredited-in-oceans-eleven/154129/14 "2003-02-12T10:50:59Z")

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Don Cheadle took “uncredited”, and made it…

UNCREDITED.

I’ll go away now.
