# Why the hell can't some of you accept a differing opinion on homosexuality? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 14, 2003, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hell-cant-some-of-you-accept-a-differing-opinion-on-homosexuality/213271 "2003-11-14T17:47:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hell-cant-some-of-you-accept-a-differing-opinion-on-homosexuality/213271/61 "2003-11-15T02:13:45Z")
See, I think homosexuality should be, “well, it’s really none of your business.” Do you ask people if they’re promiscious, or if they live with people they’re not married to, or if they have kids out of wedlock, or if they’ve ever had an abortion, or if they sometimes smoke pot, or whatever\*? Or even then, do you go up to them and start telling them what they’re doing wrong? No, you MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!! Does that make sense? \*I’m not equating homosexuality to these things, just sayin’ it’s one of those things that are no one’s business but one’s own ---
**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hell-cant-some-of-you-accept-a-differing-opinion-on-homosexuality/213271/62 "2003-11-15T02:21:52Z")
> [@](#): > > Well, I think it all boils down to what you feel the “cause” of homosexuality is in the first place. If you feel that it is a choice that some people make, then disapproving of homosexuality should be afforded the same respect as disapproving of, say, people who enjoy S&M/bondage. Different strokes for different folks, and everybody is entitled to an opinion, right? > > If, however, you feel that homosexuality is something people are born with and have no control over, then disapproving of homosexuality is akin to, say, disapproving of “Blacks” or “Jews” and brands the disapprover as an evil person right up there with Hitler and the KKK. No, it doesn’t, because that’s not a fair comparison at all. If some people are born (as some are) with a lack of empathy that makes them psychopaths, that doesn’t make their eventual crimes uncondemable, just because they were born that way. The reason black and Jew hating is unacceptable is because there is no basis to the slander (blacks are not, in fact, inferior, and Jews are not, in fact, greedy Christian baby eaters), not because its wrong to think a certain thing is immoral. The “cause” of something may affect on how forgiving you are of something, but it can’t affect whether something is immoral or not, not unless you think something along the lines of there being a special creator god who would never create people with evil natures. No, the correct way to attack homophobes is NOT to try and demonstrate that homosexuality is natural, but to utterly reject their contention that it is immoral. And the fact is, someone who thinks a perfectly moral thing is immoral, is themselves immoral, in my book. You don’t get to beg off on the fact that it’s what your religion tells you, or its your moral view. Too bad. You’re still responsible for that view, and if I think that view is wrong (and I do) I am perfectly justified in thinking ill of you. ---
**Author:** ![g8rguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7cd45c/32.png) [@g8rguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/g8rguy)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hell-cant-some-of-you-accept-a-differing-opinion-on-homosexuality/213271/63 "2003-11-15T02:28:29Z")
For what it’s worth, **Guin** , I quite agree with you. Even _if_ homosexuality _is_ a sin, what possible business is it of mine? ---
**Author:** ![Dreaming\_of\_Maria\_Callas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@Dreaming\_of\_Maria\_Callas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dreaming_of_Maria_Callas)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hell-cant-some-of-you-accept-a-differing-opinion-on-homosexuality/213271/64 "2003-11-15T02:38:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Binarydrone \* > **My assertion is that the belief that homosexuality is wrong or sinful is not only factually incorrect…** You can’t conclude that it is “factually incorrect” because this is not a matter of facts. It’s a matter of moral faith and one person’s beliefs are just as factually valid as anyone else’s. > [@](#): > > **It is inherently harmful because people that hold this belief are voting for congressman who author the defense of marriage acts** You’ll find that few of the people around here who disapprove of homosexuality are attempting to get their beliefs enshrined in law. While I disapprove of homosexual behaviour, I would not vote for a politician who attempts to limit private, consentual activity by law. There are plenty of people who oppose certain lifestyle choices while voting in a libertarian fashion. > [@](#): > > **raising children to be ashamed of their sexuality** A person can oppose homosexual behavior without teaching gays to be ashamed of their orientation. The Catholic gays I mentioned in an earlier posting are openly gay and feel no shame. Orientation isn’t the problem here, it’s only the expression that is shameful. > [@](#): > > **and in general contributing to the atmosphere of oppression experienced by sexual minorities. This is a bad thing.** Pish tosh. You might as well argue that people who believe that one religion offers the truest path to God is directly contributing to sectarian violence. Yep, Hindus should stop merely tolerating Islam and instead conclude that it was the one true faith right all along, otherwise they would be contributing to the atmosphere of opression. :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > **So, when I say that you seem incapable of distinguishing between something that in inherently harmful to a group of people and something which is simply not a popular point of view I mean just that. There is a huge and vitally important difference.** Maybe in your moral system, but you don’t make the rules for everyone else. UnuMondo ---
**Author:** ![Tanaqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Tanaqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaqui)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hell-cant-some-of-you-accept-a-differing-opinion-on-homosexuality/213271/65 "2003-11-15T02:43:56Z")
> [@](#): > > Why? I see it this way: people are allowed to believe whatever they want. They’re allowed to believe that black people are inherently more violent than white people. They’re _allowed_ to believe that women aren’t as smart as men. But–and this is an important but, here–being allowable is not the same as being acceptable. And the fact that people are _allowed_ to spew their bullshit doesn’t mean that I don’t reserve the right to call them out on their offensive, hurtful, and fucking stupid ideas. And I will. Oh, I will. Threads like these make me so sad. There are so many good people who’ve had this hateful idea hammered into their heads–it breaks my heart. _It’s not okay_ to be a bigot. It will never be okay. And I sincerely hope that someday, bigotry based on sexual orientation will not be acceptable to anyone. But until then, I’ll continue to fight the good fight by reading gay por–uh, I mean, by writing my local representatives. ---
**Author:** ![Bouncer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bouncer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bouncer)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hell-cant-some-of-you-accept-a-differing-opinion-on-homosexuality/213271/66 "2003-11-15T02:50:46Z")
“Oh, please. This board is the most tolerant one I’ve ever seen.” -GoBear HooHooHahahahaha!!! Nice one! Try being a Religious Fundamentalist on this board and watch what happens to you. Hell they’ll be lining up in a queue to call you every single obscene thing they can dredge up. HeeHeeHee… “tolerant”. Pardon my snickering. For the record I’m not any kind of a religious person, I have to say that to folks. Which makes the point. Any kind of critical observation would show this board is heavily biased towards a more liberal, atheistic, anti-Bush viewpoint. (shrug) I’m not saying that’s right or wrong. Just making the observation that “tolerant” is not an accurate term to describe this board at all. I wonder who will actually acknowledge that and who will retreat into various mantras and ad hominen attacks. Regards, -Bouncer- PS: If you need a cite I can point you towards the BBQ pit 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hell-cant-some-of-you-accept-a-differing-opinion-on-homosexuality/213271/67 "2003-11-15T04:03:34Z")
**g8rguy** , rather than yammer on about nonsense, I call on you to stand and be counted. Where do _you_ stand on the issue of gay rights? Further, as you seem to be stating that my stance that not only are some opinions and morals stances factually wrong but that people that believe that homosexuality is wrong are contributing to an atmosphere of hostility and fear is wrong, you fucking cite where this stance is faulty. Or do you want a list of things and beliefs that people have held over the years that have turned out to be wrong? Dipshit. ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hell-cant-some-of-you-accept-a-differing-opinion-on-homosexuality/213271/68 "2003-11-15T04:19:14Z")
BINARYDRONE – > [@](#): > > Further, as you seem to be stating that my stance that not only are some opinions and morals stances factually wrong but that people that believe that homosexuality is wrong are contributing to an atmosphere of hostility and fear is wrong, you fucking cite where this stance is faulty. Allow me. There is no way, as a logical proposition, that a moral belief about the correctness of a given action can be “factually wrong,” or “factually right.” If you think it can be, then explain which of these beliefs is right and which is wrong, and why: It’s wrong to dance. It’s wrong to play cards. It’s wrong to be unfaithful to your spouse. It’s wrong to cut your hair. It’s wrong to eat pork. It’s wrong to eat beef. These are subjective statements of _belief_, and you cannot prove they are either right or wrong. And it does not necessarily follow that every person who believes that homosexual acts are wrong automatically is “contributing to an atmosphere of hostility and fear,” regardless of how they think of or treat gay people. So to the extent that you are asserting that this one belief, without more, in all cases contributes to an atmosphere of hostility and fear, your stance is in fact faulty. I refer you to all my posts [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=222512&pagenumber=4). And I will also reiterate GR8GUY’s question from that thread: How come it’s okay for you to attack someone else’s morality, but wrong for them to attack yours? ---
**Author:** ![Lynne\_kilii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d26b3c/32.png) [@Lynne\_kilii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynne_kilii)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hell-cant-some-of-you-accept-a-differing-opinion-on-homosexuality/213271/69 "2003-11-15T04:49:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Eve \* > \*\*. . . Unless he has a penis that’s shaped like a turnip, and likes to hide in the vegetable rack and frighten the children . . . \*\* **Eve**. Eve, Eve, Eve, Eve, Eve, can I pretty, pretty please have that as a sig??? Am I allowed to talk to Eve yet? I’m not sure if I’ve earned that right as a doper… **Tremmie** , can I have your permission too to use your quote? ---
**Author:** ![Tremmie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@Tremmie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tremmie)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hell-cant-some-of-you-accept-a-differing-opinion-on-homosexuality/213271/70 "2003-11-15T04:52:56Z")
You are not attacking someone elses morality when you condemn homosexuality. You are attacking THEM. When your morality says “its not ok to be you” then you are WRONG and deserve to be attacked for your BELIEFS, not because of who or what you are. ---
**Author:** ![g8rguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7cd45c/32.png) [@g8rguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/g8rguy)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hell-cant-some-of-you-accept-a-differing-opinion-on-homosexuality/213271/71 "2003-11-15T04:53:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Binarydrone \* > **g8rguy, rather than yammer on about nonsense, I call on you to stand and be counted. Where do _you_ stand on the issue of gay rights?** Well, _that_ was a useful and intellectually honest way of deflecting attention away from your utter tripe. Nevertheless, so as not to lower myself to your level, I shall respond. Given my own statement that it isn’t any business of mine whether one is homosexual or not, I think it should have been patently clear that I believe that homosexuals should enjoy the same rights as all the rest of us. Now that this is out of the way, let’s return to you actually defending your position. Or is this too much to ask? > [@](#): > > \*\*Further, as you seem to be stating that my stance that not only are some opinions and morals stances factually wrong but that people that believe that homosexuality is wrong are contributing to an atmosphere of hostility and fear is wrong, you fucking cite where this stance is faulty. \*\* To be specific:[ol][li]Moral stances are not factually wrong. That this is the case should be trivially obvious.[/li][li]Apparently it’s not to you. Color me stunned.[/li][li]Allow me to explain.[/li][li]The hallmark of a fact is that it is _verifiable_, at least in principle. That I have five two arms is verifiable by looking at me, for example. Things which are not verifiable cannot be facts. [/li][li]How are you going to verify which moral beliefs are factually correct and which are not? Why should we trust your verification process anyway?[/li][li]Further, moral beliefs have evolved through the centuries. I see this as evidence that moral beliefs are _not_ factual in nature, because if they were, someone should have hit on the proper verification scheme by now and tested the various moral beliefs on the Morality Meter. Since this does not seem to have been done, I posit that moral beliefs are _not_ factually correct or incorrect. I may think that your moral belief is stupid, wrongheaded, and even utterly evil, but I have no way of knowing that it is _factually_ wrong.[/li][li]That your statement regarding people who believe that homosexuality is wrong is incorrect is also trivially obvious.[/li][li]Apparently not to you. Color me stunned.[/li][li]Allow me to explain.[/li][li]Simply put, an attitude is not a belief. **Jodi** has been making this point rather more eloquently than I in the current **lissener** thread. But in a nutshell, some people believe that homosexuality is wrong, and is a sin. They also believe that we are all sinners, and that we are also all people deserving of love and respect. Therefore, they in fact argue for gay rights, vote against politicians who voted for the DOMA, and so forth. You would have me believe that such people contribute to an atmosphere of oppression and hatred. And you call _me_ a dipshit? [/li][li]Of course, not everyone is so benevolent. Fortunately, I never said they were. As a general rule, though, when you grab a gargantuan brush and start painting with it, don’t be surprised when you paint outside the lines at times. And don’t be surprised when you get called on it.[/ol][/li] > [@](#): > > **Or do you want a list of things and beliefs that people have held over the years that have turned out to be wrong?** That would be nice, actually. Along with the way you determined they were _factually_ wrong, as opposed to just immoral as you understand morality. * * * On preview, I see that **Jodi** has helpfully stepped in. Thanks, **Jodi**! 🙂 Although note: **g8r** , not **gr8** , as calling myself a great person would be, well, wrong. Although not factually so, of course. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hell-cant-some-of-you-accept-a-differing-opinion-on-homosexuality/213271/72 "2003-11-15T04:53:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Binarydrone \* > \*\*Further, as you seem to be stating that my stance that not only are some opinions and morals stances factually wrong but that people that believe that homosexuality is wrong are contributing to an atmosphere of hostility and fear is wrong, you fucking cite where this stance is faulty. Dipshit. \*\* It’s faulty because someone’s opinions or moral stances cannot be _factually_ wrong, because they are just that, _opinions_, not statements of fact. And everyone is absolutely entitled to their own opinions, unless you’re actually advocating Thought Police??? Having an opinion or a moral stance is not wrong. It just is. Proclamations by yourself, **lissener** , and/or **MrVisible** notwithstanding. It’s amazing that the usual moral relativist crowd is so very _strident_ about this one issue. What they proclaim about Gays is the TRUTH, anyone who happens to disagree is a fuckwad, or worse. Can’t have it both ways, kids. On preview, what **Jodi** said. ---
**Author:** ![Tremmie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@Tremmie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tremmie)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hell-cant-some-of-you-accept-a-differing-opinion-on-homosexuality/213271/73 "2003-11-15T04:53:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lynne\_kilii \* > \*\ ***Eve**. Eve, Eve, Eve, Eve, Eve, can I pretty, pretty please have that as a sig??? > Am I allowed to talk to Eve yet? I’m not sure if I’ve earned that right as a doper… > > **Tremmie** , can I have your permission too to use your quote? \*\* Knock yerself out 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hell-cant-some-of-you-accept-a-differing-opinion-on-homosexuality/213271/74 "2003-11-15T04:54:59Z")
> [@](#): > > And I will also reiterate GR8GUY’s question from that thread: How come it’s okay for you to attack someone else’s morality, but wrong for them to attack yours? They can attack _my_ morality until they turn indigo, for all I care. What I do _not_ appreciate is their using their morality as a weapon against the vulnerable and as a firehose against my civil rights. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hell-cant-some-of-you-accept-a-differing-opinion-on-homosexuality/213271/75 "2003-11-15T05:00:57Z")
> [@](#): > > And I will also reiterate GR8GUY’s question from that thread: How come it’s okay for you to attack someone else’s morality, but wrong for them to attack yours? They can attack _my_ morality until they turn indigo, for all I care. What I do _not_ appreciate is their using their morality as a weapon against the vulnerable and as a firehose against my civil rights. ---
**Author:** ![g8rguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7cd45c/32.png) [@g8rguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/g8rguy)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hell-cant-some-of-you-accept-a-differing-opinion-on-homosexuality/213271/76 "2003-11-15T05:04:21Z")
Bloody hell. Where did _this_ > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by me_ > **that I have five two arms** come from? :smack: That should just be two arms, of course. And I even previewed. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hell-cant-some-of-you-accept-a-differing-opinion-on-homosexuality/213271/77 "2003-11-15T05:23:00Z")
This point has been made time after time after time, and as much as I hate playing the “my oppression is worse than your oppression” game in any of its varieties… “I don’t think black people should be allowed to marry.” “Handicapped people shouldn’t be allowed to adopt children.” “Christianity is immoral.” Not a single person here who’s criticizing the idea of not “accepting a differing opinion on homosexuality” would “accept” any of the above “differing opinions” and would quite rightly and loudly reject them as bigotry. They would not excuse any of them on the grounds that the person espousing them was doing so based on their religion. Yet should I dare to refuse to accept religion as an excuse for the bigotry inherent in “marriage should be between a man and a woman only” I’m somehow “intolerant.” Fuck that shit. ---
**Author:** ![Lilairen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lilairen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lilairen)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hell-cant-some-of-you-accept-a-differing-opinion-on-homosexuality/213271/78 "2003-11-15T05:47:13Z")
I would like to (somewhat belatedly) nod vigorously in **Siege** ’s direction. (With a bit of odd irony, as the example she chose to illustrate the point is one that’s currently preoccupying some parts of my family . . . .) Yes, there exist people who engage in actions that I consider blatantly immoral, even, to pick a bit of rhetoric that floats around a bit, destructive to the family and disruptive to the fabric of civil society. I don’t tell them so. I don’t tell them so because, well, it wouldn’t do a damn bit of good. (And is, in fact, quite likely to be disruptive to the fabric of civil society.) Raising moral justifications is almost never actually useful. When I can argue with those people on the basis of fact, on the basis of things that they can observe, on the basis of logic, I often do so – because on that basis, I have some hope of making a valid point. So, for example, when someone argues that homosexuality is unnatural, I can point out the huge number of species in which homosexual behaviours are observed (including, I believe, one species of woodpecker for which the only evidence we have that they ever engage in heterosexual pairings is that they appear to occasionally produce baby woodpeckers). I don’t have as easy a response to people who would argue that homosexuality is immoral. “I don’t subscribe to your religion” doesn’t matter to most of this sort; “How can you simultaneously claim to serve a god whose essence is love and say that love is wrong” doesn’t work even on the people for whom it’s an accurate theological claim. The fact that under _my_ moral system such a belief is disgusting and contrary to divine will doesn’t have any more validity to them than a citation of their holy books does for me. I do happen to think that the passive belief contributes to harm – without that context, that community of perceived fellow-feeling, the people who want to take action on the basis of that belief would be seen as a lunatic fringe, dangerous radicals, and extremists. They would have to convince people not only of the rightness of their actions but the rightness of their axioms, and would be marginalised and insignificant. If there were not those who held that passive belief in great quantity, then it would not be so readily possible for homophobia to ooze into the larger culture. It would not have been so necessary for the friend who came out to me in high school to ask me, after he did so, “Is that okay?”, to worry that I might be one of the ones for whom it was not, in fact, okay. I don’t have the standing to ask the people of the passive beliefs to change on my account, let alone demand it; I don’t have the standing to get the undecided to take a stand. I just have a heartfelt, fervent desire that some day, nobody will have to give voice to the doubt and fear enshrined in “Is that okay?” when they admit to an ability to love. So long as “some day” is not “today”, I am mournful, and so long as “some day” is not “today”, I will number myself among those who actively choose to stand up and say that it is okay, so that the people with that awful question engraved on their hearts might hear. ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hell-cant-some-of-you-accept-a-differing-opinion-on-homosexuality/213271/79 "2003-11-15T05:56:18Z")
Good post, **Lilairen**. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Cerowyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/82dd89/32.png) [@Cerowyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerowyn)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2003, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hell-cant-some-of-you-accept-a-differing-opinion-on-homosexuality/213271/80 "2003-11-15T09:09:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bouncer \* > **Try being a Religious Fundamentalist on this board and watch what happens to you. Hell they’ll be lining up in a queue to call you every single obscene thing they can dredge up.** Well, the fight **is** against ignorance, after all… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hell-cant-some-of-you-accept-a-differing-opinion-on-homosexuality/213271.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-hell-cant-some-of-you-accept-a-differing-opinion-on-homosexuality/213271.md?page=5)