# Why the lack of USB-C mouse's? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [November 2, 2024, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-lack-of-usb-c-mouses/1009580 "2024-11-02T16:26:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-lack-of-usb-c-mouses/1009580/41 "2024-11-03T16:22:22Z")
This one also appears to have a USB-C receiver > **[Amazon.com: RaceGT USB C Wireless Mouse, Type C Silent Mouse for MacBook...](https://www.amazon.com/RaceGT-Wireless-Computer-Cordless-Adjustable/dp/B09ZTJRXLV)** > > Buy RaceGT USB C Wireless Mouse, Type C Silent Mouse for MacBook Air/Pro, 2.4G Cordless Computer Mouse with 6 Buttons and 3 Adjustable DPI for Mac, Laptop, Desktop, PC: Mice - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases And this one > **[Amazon.com: Lenovo Go USB-C Essential Wireless Mouse, 2.4 GHz Nano USB-C...](https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Adjustable-Rechargeable-Ambidextrous-GY51C21210/dp/B09DQ6CQVR)** > > Amazon.com: Lenovo Go USB-C Essential Wireless Mouse, 2.4 GHz Nano USB-C Receiver, Adjustable DPI, Rechargeable Battery, Ambidextrous, GY51C21210, Grey : Electronics ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-lack-of-usb-c-mouses/1009580/42 "2024-11-03T16:23:07Z")
Nevermind ---
**Author:** ![CaveMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cavemike/32/16379_2.png) [@CaveMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaveMike)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-lack-of-usb-c-mouses/1009580/43 "2024-11-03T16:32:25Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > I think the existence of the MacBook pro suggests otherwise. Sure Apple has carved out a successful niche in offering quality at a higher price, but most of the people willing to pay more have already converted. No one else in Consumer Electronics has been able to replicate Apple’s strategy. Outside of Apple it is just a bunch of computer peripheral companies from China and Taiwan trying to chisel out a little more market share than last quarter. They compete on price, even for boutique gaming peripherals. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-lack-of-usb-c-mouses/1009580/44 "2024-11-03T16:34:14Z")
> [@Quintas](#): > > I don’t want a dongle. Here’s a Logitech [bluetooth mouse](https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Bluetooth-Wireless-Portable-Compatible/dp/B0BXNR9DB6?crid=3PCYZR5JCX67U&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.DzzsWPdaj7QHE4PU3ikVi6-DAFc_VJMAOLOvhB5u3lHHGPx1RaPVLdzRHVXKzLSU1L5xnp-wl9tjkiymdffMKa-T4cSF8O-C7d7g3hgnPO3Di8OgPq_fw6eVGFdrHBBi1LShFgKzfvH9Nu9FBGOr0a4OKQmqXXn02Q2o-iDFV1eZF7SPkSICogqeSljFITW_4JsjGUtzEx0TJO8gH5unS-N2NwTlnuOYqzHYdhmg9BU.VbjMBCLf5yk4lAFnLGgi3o4mwB8WndDta68b9-xiJ-A&dib_tag=se&keywords=bluetooth%2Bmouse%2Bfor%2Blaptop&qid=1730651267&sprefix=bluetooth%2Bmouse%2Caps%2C170&sr=8-3&th=1) with NO dongle. [Here’s another.](https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Bluetooth-Wireless-Portable-Compatible/dp/B0D9N7RY1D?crid=3PCYZR5JCX67U&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.DzzsWPdaj7QHE4PU3ikVi6-DAFc_VJMAOLOvhB5u3lHHGPx1RaPVLdzRHVXKzLSU1L5xnp-wl9tjkiymdffMKa-T4cSF8O-C7d7g3hgnPO3Di8OgPq_fw6eVGFdrHBBi1LShFgKzfvH9Nu9FBGOr0a4OKQmqXXn02Q2o-iDFV1eZF7SPkSICogqeSljFITW_4JsjGUtzEx0TJO8gH5unS-N2NwTlnuOYqzHYdhmg9BU.VbjMBCLf5yk4lAFnLGgi3o4mwB8WndDta68b9-xiJ-A&dib_tag=se&keywords=bluetooth%2Bmouse%2Bfor%2Blaptop&qid=1730651448&sprefix=bluetooth%2Bmouse%2Caps%2C170&sr=8-4&th=1) ---
**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-lack-of-usb-c-mouses/1009580/45 "2024-11-03T16:41:24Z")
(In response to a now-deleted or edited post…? But still posting because it’s interesting) Small USB-C adapters do exist: [![](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1315/1471/files/USB-C_Nano_Receiver_vs_Competitors_-_Full_Annotation.jpg) ](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1315/1471/files/USB-C_Nano_Receiver_vs_Competitors_-_Full_Annotation.jpg) (from the earlier link to [Wireless USB-C – Matias](https://matias.store/collections/wireless-usb-c)) I guess it’s patent-pending though and not very common yet. I wasn’t able to find the actual patent application in the US or Canadian databases. It’d be interesting to see what technical hurdles they had to overcome that the other manufacturers haven’t yet. * * * Edit: Though that did comparison did lead me to this: [![](https://p3-ofp.static.pub/fes/cms/2021/09/10/vxrdxs33ik2w27k1mx2bupo7ftqarj587359.png) ](https://p3-ofp.static.pub/fes/cms/2021/09/10/vxrdxs33ik2w27k1mx2bupo7ftqarj587359.png) Lenovo seems to make a wireless mouse with a small (not tiny) USB-C receiver: [https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/accessories-and-software/keyboards-and-mice/mice/gy51c21210](https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/accessories-and-software/keyboards-and-mice/mice/gy51c21210) (edit: which @squeegee already posted a few posts above, oops) ---
**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-lack-of-usb-c-mouses/1009580/46 "2024-11-03T16:42:02Z")
I think you might’ve missed a response or three about why Bluetooth isn’t enough 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-lack-of-usb-c-mouses/1009580/47 "2024-11-03T16:47:58Z")
People who are satisfied with a Bluetooth mouse have many options, yes. So are people who are satisfied with a USB-C cable. Those aren’t the question. The question is about why there are so few wireless mice that use a USB-C dongle. I guess reasons suggested are: - The market is small, because enough people are satisfied with Bluetooth. - The market is small because many computers still have a usb a port - The market is small because it would cost more. (Does it cost more to make a USB-C dongle? There are still lots of options for USB-A dongles ) - The dongle will likely stick out farther (or cost more to make) so they aren’t as attractive as option - Something else? The first is unconvincing because there remains an enormous number of mice with USB-A dongles. The second might be true, especially if the situation changes quickly. Just market lag. The third is unconvincing. There are lots of gaming mice on the market that cost more than $100. People are willing to pay for the mouse they want. At least, enough people are to create a market. The Matias mouse linked proves that it’s possible to build a svelt USB-C dongle, but maybe it costs more? Or has other issues? ---
**Author:** ![Quintas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/48db29/32.png) [@Quintas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quintas)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-lack-of-usb-c-mouses/1009580/48 "2024-11-03T18:43:00Z")
> [@Reply](#): > > Does it have to be Logitech? No, I just used them as an example of a large peripheral maker. I’ve looked at several of the gaming mouse makers, Razer etc. hoping to find one, but they aren’t making them either. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-lack-of-usb-c-mouses/1009580/49 "2024-11-03T18:48:16Z")
This article might give some background to the USB-C discussion _[I’m told this really is a gift link.]_: > **[The Broken Promise of USB-C](https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/11/usb-c-is-not-universal/680502/?gift=QgO_LHw-skz7EqtMG0lcxgfBqZxUO0z5Y_yKhkoA6fs&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share)** > > We’ll never get a universal cable. It’s pretty interesting. > … > This is the second circle of our cable hell: My USB-C may not be the same as yours. And the USB-C you bought two years ago may not be the same as the one you got today. And that means it might not do what you now assume it can. > … ---
**Author:** ![Quintas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/48db29/32.png) [@Quintas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quintas)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-lack-of-usb-c-mouses/1009580/50 "2024-11-03T18:48:18Z")
> [@Reply](#): > > Lenovo seems to make a wireless mouse with a small (not tiny) USB-C receive Yep. I found that, but it only works with Lenovo computers. So the reviews say… ---
**Author:** ![Quintas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/48db29/32.png) [@Quintas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quintas)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-lack-of-usb-c-mouses/1009580/51 "2024-11-03T19:16:16Z")
Found this video of a guy who converted his usb-a receiver to usb-c. Haven’t watched it all the way through yet, so unsure how complicated it is. The video is 4 years old and laptops with all usb-c ports were already an issue back then. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-vFtiDYiIw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-vFtiDYiIw) ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-lack-of-usb-c-mouses/1009580/52 "2024-11-03T20:08:10Z")
I created a new thread to talk about the few that exist, with an interest in buying one. > [@What options are there in wireless mice with a usb-c dongle?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-options-are-there-in-wireless-mice-with-a-usb-c-dongle/1009626): > > Continuing the discussion from [Why the lack of USB-C mouse's?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-lack-of-usb-c-mouses/1009580/47): That thread is about the factual question of why they are hard to find. But there’s clearly a lot of interest in actually buying them. So i thought I’d create this thread, in IMHO, to talk about the options that exist and their pros and cons. To be clear: This thread is not about wired mice (although having an option to use wired is fine). This thread is not about Bluetooth mice. It’s also not about wireless mice with a usb-a do… ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-lack-of-usb-c-mouses/1009580/53 "2024-11-03T20:18:39Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > The third is unconvincing. There are lots of gaming mice on the market that cost more than $100. People are willing to pay for the mouse they want. Eh, I don’t know if that holds true. People who spend $100+ on a gaming mouse are enthusiasts and hobbyists who are also paying for fancy mechanical keyboards (with just the right kind of switch), high refresh rate monitors and video cards with costs exceeding some mortgage payments. This is a very different market from “Laptop office guy who doesn’t have any USB-A ports” ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-lack-of-usb-c-mouses/1009580/54 "2024-11-03T20:21:08Z")
A lot of them are playing on high-end laptops, though, and a lot of the newer high end laptops don’t have USB-A ports. I think that gaming, and editing video, audio, or image files are where users want high-end mice (meaning not Bluetooth) and a lot of those people are on newer Macs, Dells, and other devices that have moved to usb-c. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-lack-of-usb-c-mouses/1009580/55 "2024-11-03T20:29:13Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > A lot of them are playing on high-end laptops, though, and a lot of the newer high end laptops don’t have USB-A ports. I just looked at four high end big name gaming laptops (MSI Titan 18 @ $4,800 (!), Razer Blade 18 @ $3,000, Alienware m18 R2 @ $2,000 and Asus ROG Zephyrus G18 @ $2,000) and all had USB-A ports. There might be a move away from Type A on lightweight office laptops but it doesn’t seem like an issue yet on gaming laptops where the GPU and cooling solutions mean you have plenty of room on the chassis for a Type-A connection. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-lack-of-usb-c-mouses/1009580/56 "2024-11-03T20:30:15Z")
Hmm, the laptop i bought for gaming lacks a usb-A port, but maybe that’s unusual. (It is a Dell.) ---
**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-lack-of-usb-c-mouses/1009580/57 "2024-11-04T00:22:35Z")
Is it an XPS, or…? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_the\_Turtle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_the_turtle/32/2926_2.png) [@Fear\_the\_Turtle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_the_Turtle)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-lack-of-usb-c-mouses/1009580/58 "2024-11-06T18:31:10Z")
I’m confused (wouldn’t be the 1st time, so go easy on me…). If you don’t want a wire, and you don’t want a dongle…what exactly are you plugging into the USB-C? ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-lack-of-usb-c-mouses/1009580/59 "2024-11-06T23:48:43Z")
He does want a dongle. A dongle that fits into a usb-c port ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_the\_Turtle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_the_turtle/32/2926_2.png) [@Fear\_the\_Turtle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_the_Turtle)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-lack-of-usb-c-mouses/1009580/60 "2024-11-07T01:02:40Z")
See post 25 (or so, they don’t number them anymore). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-lack-of-usb-c-mouses/1009580.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-lack-of-usb-c-mouses/1009580.md?page=4)