# Why the monikers, righties? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 31, 2010, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-monikers-righties/552197 "2010-08-31T23:19:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-monikers-righties/552197/121 "2010-09-04T03:35:26Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > > [@xtisme](#): > > > > lol…seriously? It’s been a staple for contrarian politics since…well, since politics was invented. 😛 > > > > Because the did, obviously. In fact, they have stayed with Obama, even if he probably isn’t their optimal choice, seeing as how he’s not nearly lefty enough for most of them. > > See, I think you’re completely wrong here, and that’s why I started this thread. It isn’t obvious to me what you see as obvious. For instance, look at what I quoted from you: you offer no reasoning to back up your assertion, you just make the assertion and then stop. > > And how do you propose that people not “stay with” Obama? He’s our president for a couple more years. Am I a fanatical Obama supporter if I don’t have a recall petition in my hands or something? Until every lefty throws him bodily from the White House they’re all crazy rabid Obamaniacs? How are you reaching that conclusion? What evidence do you see daily of fervent support that supports that conclusion? Because I don’t see them. I don’t see people on the left acting the way that people on the right accuse people of acting, at least not in sufficient numbers to justify the verbiage. > > > [@xtisme](#): > > > > It’s the same way that a lot of righty types ‘glommed’ onto Bush, even though he wasn’t nearly right wing enough for most of the faithful…lefties just THOUGHT he was a right winger, and that tighty righty types loved everything Bush did or said. They didn’t. They just liked him a hell of a lot better than they liked Kerry. > > > > -XT > > My perception doesn’t match that. Righties were so supportive of GWB that they wrote a book of lies about John Kerry. The left has no match for that. The left has no match for a major motion picture made solely to demonize an opposition candidate. In other words, I can find actions and events that support the notion that many right wingers engage in furiously, possibly even ethically challenged ways because they are so strident in their support of their candidates, but I don’t find correlating events and actions on the left. > > I admit that it might be perception bias, which is part of the reason for my starting this thread: to take a look at my own possible perception biases. It’s a perception bias. You seem to act as if your support of Obama is a ‘coming of age’ thing. What you have experienced is becoming a lackey of the Dems as the righties have become lackies of the Pubs. Your 'book of lies…left has no match…" thing is amusing. If sincere, it is touching, if not, it is typical. Each party acts as tho their finer senses have been violated…as tho their kids have been molested by the other side…as if the other team is the first to not fight fair…you all grow tiresome. One of the favorite things that the Dems have trotted out whenever Obama takes a hit is the “He is our President…” meme. Funny, the good citizens didn’t seem to think that much of the popular vote when Bush was in office. This is just a tiring rehash of Dem v. Pub, and another “Obama is the only hope for America” screed. Best wishes, hh ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-monikers-righties/552197/122 "2010-09-04T03:41:15Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > > [@xtisme](#): > > > > lol…seriously? It’s been a staple for contrarian politics since…well, since politics was invented. 😛 > > > > Because the did, obviously. In fact, they have stayed with Obama, even if he probably isn’t their optimal choice, seeing as how he’s not nearly lefty enough for most of them. > > See, I think you’re completely wrong here, and that’s why I started this thread. It isn’t obvious to me what you see as obvious. For instance, look at what I quoted from you: you offer no reasoning to back up your assertion, you just make the assertion and then stop. > > And how do you propose that people not “stay with” Obama? He’s our president for a couple more years. Am I a fanatical Obama supporter if I don’t have a recall petition in my hands or something? Until every lefty throws him bodily from the White House they’re all crazy rabid Obamaniacs? How are you reaching that conclusion? What evidence do you see daily of fervent support that supports that conclusion? Because I don’t see them. I don’t see people on the left acting the way that people on the right accuse people of acting, at least not in sufficient numbers to justify the verbiage. > > > [@xtisme](#): > > > > It’s the same way that a lot of righty types ‘glommed’ onto Bush, even though he wasn’t nearly right wing enough for most of the faithful…lefties just THOUGHT he was a right winger, and that tighty righty types loved everything Bush did or said. They didn’t. They just liked him a hell of a lot better than they liked Kerry. > > > > -XT > > My perception doesn’t match that. Righties were so supportive of GWB that they wrote a book of lies about John Kerry. The left has no match for that. The left has no match for a major motion picture made solely to demonize an opposition candidate. In other words, I can find actions and events that support the notion that many right wingers engage in furiously, possibly even ethically challenged ways because they are so strident in their support of their candidates, but I don’t find correlating events and actions on the left. > > I admit that it might be perception bias, which is part of the reason for my starting this thread: to take a look at my own possible perception biases. nm Best wishes, hh ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-monikers-righties/552197/123 "2010-09-04T03:55:03Z")
> [@handsomeharry](#): > > This is just a tiring rehash of Dem v. Pub, and another “Obama is the only hope for America” screed. > > Best wishes, > hh Sure it is. Then you’ll have no problem linking to the post where I said Obama is the only hope for America during my _screed_, right? Or is this another unsupported allegation coming to us of someone being an “Obama supporter”? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-monikers-righties/552197/124 "2011-07-19T13:47:55Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Obama is the only hope for America Aha! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-monikers-righties/552197/125 "2011-07-19T14:11:06Z")
Was there a particular reason you revived this zombie, Gyrate? Wading through three pages of partisan slush to get to a one-liner, throw-away joke seems a bit much. May I close this, now? [/Modding] ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-monikers-righties/552197/126 "2011-07-19T14:16:54Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > Was there a particular reason you revived this zombie, Gyrate? > Wading through three pages of partisan slush to get to a one-liner, throw-away joke seems a bit much. > > May I close this, now? > > [/Modding] The OP linked to it from another (new) thread and I didn’t notice this one was old. Apologies. Close away. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-monikers-righties/552197/127 "2011-07-19T14:23:17Z")
Fair enough. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-the-monikers-righties/552197.md?page=6)