Why the sudden surge in Xenophobia?

Unless they specifically used the term racism, the rest is just your projection onto them. Do we need to revisit the hypocrite thread?

Muslim isn’t a race, it’s a religion. Were you not aware of that? Are you working off a different definition of racism?

So now you’re switching from racism to evil?

To answer your second question: GASP how dare you question the Fathers. If you start asking if this amendment is stupid, ill-thought out, and not applicable to today’s world, what happens when you look at the others?!?!

To answer your specific question: citizenship is generally passed by heritage, or by earth. In other words, your citizenship is either based on your parent’s citizenship, or by where you were born. Some countries take these to extremes, while others use a bit of both. The US mainly uses earth, but Americans can also register babies born overseas.

In some Middle Eastern countries, citizenship is based on your father’s citizenship. So millions of foreigners can live, work, and give birth in their country, without ever getting citizenship.

I got Canadian citizenship because I was born in Canada. But I got Irish citizenship because my grandfather was born in Ireland.

But likewise, if you gave birth in Ireland, you could get both Irish citizenship by earth, and then register American citizenship by decent.

Do you hate them so much you’ll let them be killed in the womb?

Nope. As I cheerfully conceded above:

I think it’s clear from her subsequent post that she did mean - as of then, anyway - to accuse the GOP of racism. But as to the others, you’re right: I ascribed motives that weren’t stated. My bad. Withdrawn, and apologized for.

The 14th Amendment is stupid and badly worded and definitely needs to be changed or repealed.

Why does a child, born of a non-citizen automatically beomes a citizen? Even a foreigner on vacation in the USA could have a child there and the child would be a citizen.

Many people including myself wants this abolished because it promotes foreign pregnant women to sneak across the border to have a baby on the taxpayers. Then since the woman is a mother of a citizen, she gets to stay too. Then the mother invites all of her relatives to come.

All the welfare consumed by the invader, multiple babies and family members robs working people of their money (taxes) while forcing them to live in worse and worse conditions.

28 people in a two bedroom house, beer bottles in the yard, drunk drivers galore. Working meat packing plant jobs, on welfare and/or selling drugs. I know most of you on this board love “diversity” (as long as it is not in your neighborhood of course), well, this is it.

I know, right? This is a pretty great country.

The only supposedly list easily found on the internet is the one on Wikipedia, which is taken from the website of NumbersUSA. NumbersUSA is an anti-immigration group, so I presume they define the matter as strictly as possible, and the list does not claim to be exhaustive anyway.

In any case, it is not a large number: 33, according to them.

Nearly all of the countries that confer automatic citizenship on the sole basis of jus soli are in the Americas. Most are relatively sparsely populated (like us).

Most other “developed” nations have a combination of jus soli and jus sanguinus policies. Typically, a child born on the soil of Country X to a legal resident of Country X is an automatic citizen, while a child born on the soil of Country X to a visitor or illegal resident is not. On the other hand, the latter child would automatically become eligible for citizenship at the age of 18, or at such a time as his or her parent either became a legal resident or a citizen (depends).

Of course not. However, we’re not really talking about the Constitution as a whole; we’re talking about the portions which relate to citizenship.

On the whole, I think we’re doing quite well with things as they are in that regard.

That said, the procedures for granting citizenship are frankly not in line with the Constitution as things currently stand. It’s none of your business if I’ve ever been a member of a communist party or any other totalitarian party. Why are you asking?

Posting bitchy screeds about things you don’t understand makes you look really stupid.

You don’t get to stay in the US because you’re the “mother of a citizen”. If ICE picks up the mother, she gets deported, just like anyone else. The baby goes too - or she can put it up for adoption.

When come back, bring facts, moron.

I’m referring to this:

That’s not true. You seem to think the U.S. deports illegal aliens they come across. What really happens is that they go to immigration court and are frequently granted relief. This is especially true in the case of citizens’ parents.

However, a U.S. citizen is not allowed to petition for naturalization of a parent until they’re 21 years old. So in a sense, they’re more like “anchor children” than “anchor babies”

As my coworker, a 30+ year vet of immigration enforcement, says: “Judges consider whether or not deportation of the parents would cause an undue hardship on the citizen.” Key words: Undue hardship.

In my experience, it’s true that moms aren’t going to get deported. But then again, most people don’t anyway, children or not.

The point is that they are no less likely to be deported than illegal immigrants who do not have citizen children, regardless of what your friend says. Several bills have been introduced which would allow judges to consider family status in deportation cases, and they have all failed.

What was that old old saying?

The simplest answer is the right one

Or something like that.

But this statement is not true. The mother can be deported, even if she has a citizen child.

ETA: which is already discussed above. :smack:

Most whites know that becoming a minority can never be a good thing for us, that the rate of immigration (both legal and illegal) passed the rate of assimililation a long time ago, and that the country is becoming Balkanized. They see that America is slowly becoming a third world country, and they know the endless introduction of new immigrants is creating racial and ethnic fault lines that are likely to give way under stress. They know as well that the endless stream of immigrants complicates every other problem we have such as unemployment, failing schools, environmental degradation, overloaded infrastructure and social support systems, and crime. This is common sense, not racism and xenophobia. Snarling about how racist and xenophobic this common sense attitude is supposed to be ony shows the depths of the loathing and contempt that most white progressives feel for their fellow whites.

Not all of them. Just you, really.

(shrug) I didn’t say all of them. It’s safe to say most of them do, as evidenced by the numerous polls which show overwhelming support for strict control of immigration.

I also need to apologize, when I replied I thought that was the last post and didn’t realize there were two more pages.

And my point is that this is utterly false. I’d love to hang around and debate this with you, but I’ve got to get some work done today. These aliens aren’t going to deport themselves, y’know.

While we’ve got the car up on the jack, and we’re tinkering with the engine, perhaps we could look at some of the other retardly outdated amendments. The 1st looks fine, maybe we could address the 2nd before moving on to 3-14.

I must say, I love that all the answers to this are as simple as saying ,“It’s constitutional bitch, suck it!”

Then I’m sure you can provide a citation. Other than that guy you work with, of course.

Us? What ‘us’ is that. All us whites? We all have a shared vested in interest in not having un-whites around us?

How your cranium doesn’t implode foisting that bullshit and following it up with:

… has got be a medical mystery.