# Why Trump is a Great President **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 24, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-is-a-great-president/846908 "2020-01-24T18:23:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![thatsalotoff35s](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@thatsalotoff35s](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thatsalotoff35s)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-is-a-great-president/846908/1 "2020-01-24T18:23:40Z")
Trump is an obvious ESTP. His “function stack” according to classic MBTI theory is Se Ti Fe Ni. They don’t call it “SeTi” for nothing - ESTPs are smart as fuck. The are some of the most grounded intellectuals out there. Among their ranks include many of the most famous forward deployed historic and American leaders of all time. They do not deal in bullshit. You should interpret Trump’s handshake as a clear indicator to our allies and adversaries that if they fuck with us, we have 420 nuclear-armed AI+Pilot-controlled F35s ready to fuck them in the ass plus a \> $1 trillion yearly defense budget including the black budget. And yes, they ALL come fully loaded. In fact, we can be certain it is many trillions of dollars in its actual size, thanks to the help of CIA Political Action Groups. Final ProTip on ESTPs: They have _insane_ charisma. Behind closed doors you can be absolutely assured that Trump commands the room. Exactly as you would expect from an American President - one who will go down in history for having successfully averted WWIII. > **[Famous ESTPs](https://www.idrlabs.com/estp.php)** > > Famous ESTPs at IDR Labs: The site for individual differences research. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-is-a-great-president/846908/2 "2020-01-24T18:28:58Z")
Before any debate I have a question, please. ESTP? Egocentric sexist truculent pretender? Extra-special tanned president? Extremely stupid Trump paterfamilias? Seriously, what does it stand for? ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-is-a-great-president/846908/3 "2020-01-24T18:30:28Z")
Myers–Briggs is astrology for the social science set. And Donald Trump is a fundamentally venal, ignorant boor. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-is-a-great-president/846908/4 "2020-01-24T18:33:34Z")
> [@thatsalotoff35s](#): > > Trump is an obvious ESTP. His “function stack” according to classic MBTI theory is Se Ti Fe Ni. They don’t call it “SeTi” for nothing - ESTPs are smart as fuck. The are some of the most grounded intellectuals out there. Among their ranks include many of the most famous forward deployed historic and American leaders of all time. They do not deal in bullshit. You should interpret Trump’s handshake as a clear indicator to our allies and adversaries that if they fuck with us, we have 420 nuclear-armed AI+Pilot-controlled F35s ready to fuck them in the ass plus a \> $1 trillion yearly defense budget including the black budget. And yes, they ALL come fully loaded. In fact, we can be certain it is many trillions of dollars in its actual size, thanks to the help of CIA Political Action Groups. Final ProTip on ESTPs: They have _insane_ charisma. Behind closed doors you can be absolutely assured that Trump commands the room. Exactly as you would expect from an American President - one who will go down in history for having successfully averted WWIII. > > [Famous ESTPs](https://www.idrlabs.com/estp.php) The lesson here is clearly don’t be an ally of the USA or they will threaten to fuck you with nuclear weapons. Also, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! \ HA ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Oh that’s hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-is-a-great-president/846908/5 "2020-01-24T18:40:12Z")
For a guy who takes his handle from the F-35, I would assume that he would know that they are not actually nuclear qualified. Yes, this is the hill that I choose to stand and fight on. ---
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-is-a-great-president/846908/6 "2020-01-24T18:41:06Z")
Welcome to the boards, Don Jr. ---
**Author:** ![thatsalotoff35s](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@thatsalotoff35s](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thatsalotoff35s)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-is-a-great-president/846908/7 "2020-01-24T18:42:14Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > For a guy who takes his handle from the F-35, I would assume that he would know that they are not actually nuclear qualifies. > > Yes, this is the hill that I choose to stand on. Everything you have ever heard about the F35 is known as “official cover” aka counterintelligence. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-is-a-great-president/846908/8 "2020-01-24T18:48:13Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > For a guy who takes his handle from the F-35, I would assume that he would know that they are not actually nuclear qualified. > > Yes, this is the hill that I choose to stand and fight on. It’s taking longer than _any_ of us thought. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-is-a-great-president/846908/9 "2020-01-24T18:51:57Z")
Glad you are here to tell us. But is Donald Trump, master ESTPator that he is, is he pleased you’re giving away military secrets on this message board? Or… or is this part of his Master Plan? Enquiring minds want to know! ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-is-a-great-president/846908/10 "2020-01-24T18:54:44Z")
> [@thatsalotoff35s](#): > > ESTP. “function stack” MBTI Se Ti Fe Ni. “SeTi” ESTPs WT Everloving F? ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-is-a-great-president/846908/11 "2020-01-24T18:56:25Z")
Trump, the guy who just said the wheel was invented in America? That guy? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-is-a-great-president/846908/12 "2020-01-24T18:57:11Z")
> [@thatsalotoff35s](#): > > His “function stack” according to classic MBTI theory is Se Ti Fe Ni. Selenium Titanium Iron Nickel? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-is-a-great-president/846908/13 "2020-01-24T18:58:18Z")
So… he’ll go down in history for preventing WWIII, by trying to start WWIII? Aside from that, all I can get out of the OP is that Trump is a great president because the US is powerful, which would logically make _all_ Presidents of the US great. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-is-a-great-president/846908/14 "2020-01-24T18:59:03Z")
> [@thatsalotoff35s](#): > > Behind closed doors you can be absolutely assured that Trump commands the room. Ha! Thanks for the midday laugh. [https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/04/trumps-insults-idiot-woodward-806455](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/04/trumps-insults-idiot-woodward-806455) > [@](#): > > ‘Idiot,’ ‘Dope,’ ‘Moron’: How Trump’s aides have insulted the boss ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-is-a-great-president/846908/15 "2020-01-24T18:59:09Z")
> [@thatsalotoff35s](#): > > Everything you have ever heard about the F35 is known as “official cover” aka counterintelligence. When I sat in one a little while ago, that was just some black ops shit going on? Well, okay. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-is-a-great-president/846908/16 "2020-01-24T19:01:23Z")
Trump obviously has both [NPD](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder) and [ASPD](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder). He also appears to be showing pronounced signs of [dementia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dementia). He deals in [bullshit](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Bullshit) and has [told over 16,000 lies during his time in office](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/01/20/president-trump-made-16241-false-or-misleading-claims-his-first-three-years/). He and his Republican allies in Congress have enacted polices that have put the U.S. on course for [a trillion dollar annual deficit](https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/21/politics/cbo-us-deficit-one-trillion/index.html) and will [“boost federal debt to unprecedented levels over the next 30 years”](https://www.cbo.gov/publication/55331). His son [exchanged e-mails about “Russia and its government’s support” for his father’s election](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/07/11/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-email-text.html) (“if it’s what you say I love it”) and President Trump has [advocated policies that would undermine the security of the United States](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/14/us/politics/nato-president-trump.html). We all hope he does not go down in history for having started World War III. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-is-a-great-president/846908/17 "2020-01-24T19:05:07Z")
Countdown to thread being moved to Pit and poster being banned in 3, 2, 1… ---
**Author:** ![tampora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de0a6/32.png) [@tampora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tampora)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-is-a-great-president/846908/18 "2020-01-24T19:09:13Z")
Up next, the great debate: Should your turtle be your accountant, or can he not be trusted with money? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-is-a-great-president/846908/19 "2020-01-24T19:09:17Z")
> [@thatsalotoff35s](#): > > Everything you have ever heard about the F35 is known as “official cover” aka counterintelligence. Certainly covers the existence of the F-52. ---
**Author:** ![thatsalotoff35s](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@thatsalotoff35s](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thatsalotoff35s)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-is-a-great-president/846908/20 "2020-01-24T19:11:17Z")
> [@MEBuckner](#): > > Trump obviously has both [NPD](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder) and [ASPD](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder). He also appears to be showing pronounced signs of [dementia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dementia). He deals in [bullshit](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Bullshit) and has [told over 16,000 lies during his time in office](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/01/20/president-trump-made-16241-false-or-misleading-claims-his-first-three-years/). He and his Republican allies in Congress have enacted polices that have put the U.S. on course for [a trillion dollar annual deficit](https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/21/politics/cbo-us-deficit-one-trillion/index.html) and will [“boost federal debt to unprecedented levels over the next 30 years”](https://www.cbo.gov/publication/55331). His son [exchanged e-mails about “Russia and its government’s support” for his father’s election](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/07/11/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-email-text.html) (“if it’s what you say I love it”) and President Trump has [advocated policies that would undermine the security of the United States](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/14/us/politics/nato-president-trump.html). We all hope he does not go down in history for having started World War III. That is ALL official cover. As POTUS and the sole decider as to the classification level of intelligence and with the ability to kick off black ops without ever writing it down, what makes you think he can’t maintain an official cover? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-is-a-great-president/846908.md?page=2)