# "Why Trump Reigns as King Cyrus" **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 2, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-reigns-as-king-cyrus/827095 "2019-01-02T14:53:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-reigns-as-king-cyrus/827095/21 "2019-01-03T12:11:47Z")
> [@600\_Unread\_Emails](#): > > Jerry Falwell Jr. is a lawyer and **not** an evangelist like his father, so I would take just about any of his religious yarbling with a large dose of salt. You and I agree on that, sure. However, as President-For-Life of what evangelicals regard as one of their flagship evangelical universities, and as the son of Jerry Falwell Sr., evangelicals regard what he says as gospel - certainly in the metaphorical sense, and just this side of the literal sense. Unless it turns out that he was sexually involved with [that pool boy](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/michael-cohen-brokered-mysterious-1-8-million-loan-pool-boy-jerry-falwell-jr-wife-befriended/), **they** are not going to take his religious yarbling (I _like_ that term!) with the tiniest grain of salt. And that’s what matters, unfortunately. ---
**Author:** ![600\_Unread\_Emails](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/54ee81/32.png) [@600\_Unread\_Emails](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/600_Unread_Emails)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-reigns-as-king-cyrus/827095/22 "2019-01-03T15:40:40Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > But Allah and God are the same thing. So is JHVH, or Jehovah. Christianity, Judaism, and Islam were pretty much born of the same root; that is monotheism. Or, one God, as oppesed to polytheism, which is multiple gods, such as the Greeks and Romans had. Judaism came first, and Jesus Christ mentioned the Jewish prophets in the Gospels. Later, Mohammad mentioned Jesus as a prophet in the Koran. God’s nomenclature may have changed between religions, but all agree that there is only one God, no matter what you call Him: God, Allah, or Jehovah. So, “God bless America” is the same as “Allah bless America,” which is the same as “Jehovah bless America.” Now that’s a might shiny speech. But you are wrong. In the United States of America, when the President says some variation of “God bless America” it is understood by the vast majority of people in the United States of America that the President is **NOT** referring to Satan. Or Zeus. Or Allah. Or Buddha. But to the Christian God and only the Christian God. You may loathe this, but it’s true. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-reigns-as-king-cyrus/827095/23 "2019-01-03T19:55:09Z")
> [@CurtC](#): > > Maybe I missed it upthread, but I haven’t seen anyone yet mention that Cyrus was considered to be a messiah by the Israelites. I’d like to dangle that in front of them to see if they bite. That wouldn’t work either, at least among any who know what that word means in context. Cyrus was (and is) considered a small “m” messiah - in religious parlance a person sent by God for a specific purpose at a specific time and place, AKA an anointed one. There are several examples of messiahs in the Old Testament. Jesus is considered by Christians as the big “M” Messiah - God incarnate sent to establish the new covenant. Big letter = big difference. ---
**Author:** ![TSBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@TSBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TSBG)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-reigns-as-king-cyrus/827095/24 "2019-01-03T20:17:18Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Unless it turns out that he was sexually involved with [that pool boy](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/michael-cohen-brokered-mysterious-1-8-million-loan-pool-boy-jerry-falwell-jr-wife-befriended/), **they** are not going to take his religious yarbling (I _like_ that term!) with the tiniest grain of salt. And that’s what matters, unfortunately. Even the pool boy won’t make a difference. Even if there are videos. God works through imperfect instruments, don’t you know. ---
**Author:** ![JB99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/439d5e/32.png) [@JB99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JB99)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-reigns-as-king-cyrus/827095/25 "2019-01-04T04:10:16Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > But Allah and God are the same thing. HAHAHAHAHA No. Yes, I acknowledge that Christians, Jews, and Muslims are all ‘people of the book,’ as they say. But finding someone who actually knows - much less cares - about that enough to stop hating their perceived enemies is like looking for a needle in a haystack. Most ‘Christians’ I’ve met are barely familiar with their own religion and are hardly inclined to consider Muslims as actual human beings, much less co-religionists. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-reigns-as-king-cyrus/827095/26 "2019-01-04T06:42:07Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > It’s not the economy for this group. It’s not \*primarily \*immigration, racism, abortion, keeping women/minorities in their places. It’s that thump is the instrument of God chosen by God to bring about their white-Protestant-Christian goals, as defined by Christian Nationalism. I think those _are_ their “white-Protestant-Christian” goals. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-reigns-as-king-cyrus/827095/27 "2019-01-04T13:22:50Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally Posted by ThelmaLou > > It’s not the economy for this group. It’s not primarily immigration, racism, abortion, keeping women/minorities in their places. It’s that thump is the instrument of God chosen by God to bring about their white-Protestant-Christian goals, as defined by Christian Nationalism. > > I think those _are_ their “white-Protestant-Christian” goals. Not sure what you mean by that comment, but I want to make it clear that Christian Nationalists are an extremist group, and that mainstream Protestants do not subscribe to their extremism. ---
**Author:** ![CelticKnot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/celticknot/32/3392_2.png) [@CelticKnot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CelticKnot)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-reigns-as-king-cyrus/827095/28 "2019-01-04T14:14:15Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Not sure what you mean by that comment, but I want to make it clear that Christian Nationalists are an extremist group, and that mainstream Protestants do not subscribe to their extremism. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-reigns-as-king-cyrus/827095/29 "2019-01-04T16:43:28Z")
You REALLY want to be scared? You should watch “Reversing Roe” on Netflix. That shit is scary. The Hold these guy have had over former Presidents is disgusting. Hell, Reagan used to be pro choice until these fuckers got a hold of him. Same with a bunch of other presidents too. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-reigns-as-king-cyrus/827095.md?page=1)