# Why Trump Supporters Think He'll Win **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 30, 2016, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-supporters-think-hell-win/761305 "2016-07-30T17:05:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-supporters-think-hell-win/761305/21 "2016-07-31T03:38:05Z")
There are even posters on this board who believe he will win and are happy about it. The mind boggles. “Fighting Ignorance” my ass. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-supporters-think-hell-win/761305/22 "2016-07-31T03:42:31Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > An approach that might get through to that type of person: “Don’t you care that the entire world will be _laughing_ at us if we elect Trump? He’s widely regarded overseas as a fool and a buffoon.” > > It’s not so much fun to “stick it to the man” if by doing so you make _yourself_ the butt of the joke. They don’t see it that way. They see it as the OP pointed out. “One of their own” in charge, pissing off all those overseas leaders who have to deal with him. I feel like it’s going to come down to the debates (which may actually be interesting for once). ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-supporters-think-hell-win/761305/23 "2016-07-31T04:04:24Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > I absolutely think Trump could win, and if you’d asked me this even three or four months ago, I’d have smugly told you something like “The general election’s different than the primaries.” I should have known better. > > Trump seems like a crazy candidate and an impossible one, but when you really study American politics, it’s not that hard to fathom a Trump win. I mean, let’s be real here: American presidents have repeatedly been elected on the basis of being a disruptor. It’s like that old Sesame Street song “One of these kids is doin his own thing, one of this kids is not the same.” > > You have a generation or two of Americans who think the system sucks, they all suck, they’re all the same, both parties do it. Lazy intellectuals. Brain-dead American voters. The chickens are coming home to roost, and if they don’t in this election, they will in the elections that follow. Honestly, Hillary Clinton would be better than Trump - we all know that. But it’s not like it solves the problem of American political gridlock. We’ll just be even more polarized. Nothing will change until we get more educated voters. But that might not happen in my lifetime. > > So, Cliff’s Notes: American politics in 2016…is the argument for one party rule in China. The system does suck, in that at least they’re right. But the solution isn’t to hand power over to a self-involved, bigoted POS. Unfortunately, I subscribe to this attitude: [QUOTE=H.L. Mencken] No one in this world, so far as I know—and I have researched the records for years, and employed agents to help me—has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![AngelSoft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelsoft/32/440_2.png) [@AngelSoft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelSoft)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-supporters-think-hell-win/761305/24 "2016-07-31T04:06:14Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > They don’t see it that way. They see it as the OP pointed out. “One of their own” in charge, pissing off all those overseas leaders who have to deal with him. > I feel like it’s going to come down to the debates (which may actually be interesting for once). If he even shows up to them. He’s already complaining about the bias against him by them being up against the NFL in a couple spots. ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-supporters-think-hell-win/761305/25 "2016-07-31T04:45:32Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > There are even posters on this board who believe he will win and are happy about it. The mind boggles. “Fighting Ignorance” my ass. Should I vote for the crook who is above the law? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-supporters-think-hell-win/761305/26 "2016-07-31T04:47:54Z")
Trump supporters think he’ll win because Trump has been defying expectations throughout his campaign. All the accepted wisdom, from political experts across the ideological spectrum, was that Trump would crash and burn. And they were wrong; Trump has succeeded and gotten the Presidential nomination. So Trump supporters find it easy to dismiss all the experts who say Trump will be defeated in the general election. They’re confident he’ll defy expectations again and become President. And who knows? They may be right. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-supporters-think-hell-win/761305/27 "2016-07-31T05:29:54Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > I hope so, but ultimately I expect ‘my party, right or wrong’ to win out over doing the right thing in most cases. I’m not saying that there’s no chance of Trump winning, but I think a significant number of Republicans will stay home, and a few will actually vote for Hillary. [The Houston Chronicle endorsed Clinton](http://www.chron.com/opinion/recommendations/article/For-Hillary-Clinton-8650345.php), and that’s fairly significant that they endorsed a Democrat and so early. Not that the endorsement will necessarily sway many minds, but I think it shows some general trends. Also I’m in Texas and have more than a few conservatives on my Facebook pages, and I’ve seen several say that they aren’t voting for Trump, and might vote for Johnson instead. It seems like if literally any other candidate won then they’d be “my party, right or wrong”, but they are having a real hard time going with Trump. And it’s not like he’ll get less offensive as the campaign goes on. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-supporters-think-hell-win/761305/28 "2016-07-31T05:33:11Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > I protest, sir, your denigration of orangutans. Even dipshit would have grounds for offense. ---
**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-supporters-think-hell-win/761305/29 "2016-07-31T06:32:52Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > They think he’ll win because they all belong in a rubber room… By all means, keep saying that. And, if you meet anyone who is thinking about voting for Trump, be sure to tell them that. Also be sure to tell them how ignorant they are and compare them to an orangutan. Dismiss them and mock them. Don’t pay attention to their concerns. Yup, that will change their votes, for sure. Attitudes like this are part of why I think Trump might win. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-supporters-think-hell-win/761305/30 "2016-07-31T07:14:10Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > Should I vote for the crook who is above the law? No, they’re saying you _shouldn’t_ vote for Trump. Not should. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-supporters-think-hell-win/761305/31 "2016-07-31T07:16:49Z")
> [@Alley\_Dweller](#): > > Yup, that will change their votes, for sure. Not even possible. The die-hard Trumpies are lost to reason and reality. They’d NEVER vote for Hillary or probably ANY Dem, unless we started running the ones who used to be Dems in the 50s and 60s again. I’m not sure whether the hope of reasoning them out of voting for Der Trumpenfeuhrer is naive, insane or ridiculously optimistic. ---
**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-supporters-think-hell-win/761305/32 "2016-07-31T07:21:22Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Not even possible. The die-hard Trumpies are lost to reason and reality. They’d NEVER vote for Hillary or probably ANY Dem, unless we started running the ones who used to be Dems in the 50s and 60s again. I’m not sure whether the hope of reasoning them out of voting for Der Trumpenfeuhrer is naive, insane or ridiculously optimistic. Yes, there are tons of die-hard Trumpies who you have no realistic chance of convincing. But there are even more could-go-either-way voters who will also hear your mocking disdain and condescension. Push them over the edge and Hillary is toast. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-supporters-think-hell-win/761305/33 "2016-07-31T07:29:45Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > I read the entire piece. While that may be the thinking of his hardcore supporters I have a hard time believing those people make up a majority of the voters who will turn up at the polls in November. More and more traditional Republicans are realizing they can’t vote for Trump under any circumstance and that number will be increasing the closer we get to Election Day. I concur. And it’s why I say this is a useless article. We don’t need to find out what the true believer thinks. None of this information is new. What we need to do is get into the minds of people who understand how bad Trump is but still support him over Clinton. The ones that won’t even just vote Libertarian. These are just the angry people who made up his base in the primary. The ones that are, unfortunately, pretty much a lost cause. That doesn’t mean we should make fun of them. (The correct emotion is pity.) But they are unfortunately stuck in their ways. They are using angry logic, which is about winning rather than being right. It’s about wanting to hurt people. About the only thing that combat that is introspection or possibly fear. And, unfortunately, they seem to have built up a guard against fear, by simply not believing it. They don’t listen to the stuff that challenges their beliefs and gives them doubt. The people we need to reach are the people who haven’t drunk the kool-aid so effectively. Fortunately, there seem to be a lot of them. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-supporters-think-hell-win/761305/34 "2016-07-31T07:55:57Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Not even possible. The die-hard Trumpies are lost to reason and reality. They’d NEVER vote for Hillary or probably ANY Dem, unless we started running the ones who used to be Dems in the 50s and 60s again. I’m not sure whether the hope of reasoning them out of voting for Der Trumpenfeuhrer is naive, insane or ridiculously optimistic. Change a few words and you perfectly describe a large number of Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![srzss05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@srzss05](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/srzss05)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-supporters-think-hell-win/761305/35 "2016-07-31T08:22:13Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > I read the entire piece. While that may be the thinking of his hardcore supporters I have a hard time believing those people make up a majority of the voters who will turn up at the polls in November. More and more traditional Republicans are realizing they can’t vote for Trump under any circumstance and that number will be increasing the closer we get to Election Day. Which is why I won’t/don’t vote…I hope the turd sandwitch loses, but don’t want the douchebage to win either ---
**Author:** ![srzss05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@srzss05](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/srzss05)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-supporters-think-hell-win/761305/36 "2016-07-31T08:31:18Z")
> [@srzss05](#): > > Which is why I won’t/don’t vote…I hope the turd sandwitch loses, but don’t want the douchebage to win either Edit: yeah, I’m republican…but…FUCK. ---
**Author:** ![srzss05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@srzss05](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/srzss05)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-supporters-think-hell-win/761305/37 "2016-07-31T08:40:27Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > I have more faith in America than to believe anyone with enough intelligence to find their polling place will vote for that dipshit orangutan. Intelleligence has nothing to do with voting… ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-supporters-think-hell-win/761305/38 "2016-07-31T08:43:10Z")
I am a clinton supporter, and I think Trump is at least quite likely to win. It won’t suprise me if he does, ---
**Author:** ![srzss05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@srzss05](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/srzss05)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-supporters-think-hell-win/761305/39 "2016-07-31T08:46:44Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > There is no way I’m going to predict a Trump loss. I was with all the folks who “knew” that Trump could never win the GOP nomination. He scares the shit out of me because he seems to have re-written the rules by which we make predictions. My only consolation is that I don’t think he really wants to be be president, and so will not take an active role in the office if, by chance, he does win. Your consolation is comforting, in that Trump won’t have as much power as he thinks he will have. ---
**Author:** ![srzss05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@srzss05](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/srzss05)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2016, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-supporters-think-hell-win/761305/40 "2016-07-31T08:52:13Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > There are even posters on this board who believe he will win and are happy about it. The mind boggles. “Fighting Ignorance” my ass. Oh, don’t get me wrong. Trump winning would be fucked up. But it sure would be exciting…:eek: And yeah, don’t care about the multipost… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-supporters-think-hell-win/761305.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-trump-supporters-think-hell-win/761305.md?page=3)