Ja, portable IR brain imagery or EEG would do the job. However, it would be unethical to use chimps for that ! I would recommend sheeps or calves.
Or suicidal volunteers?
There are no guarantees in life. This represents one of the hazards of raping and murdering little girls.
Why don’t they use an overdose of heroin or cocaine? That seems o be a pleasant way out.
Or use the drug that put Michael Jackson into perma-sleep.
Breathing nitrogen should work. Based on what we know about hypoxia from accidents and researches done in altitude chamber, it’s pretty safe to say that the subject will become unconscious very quickly and painlessly.
I don’t think I understand why hanging by long drop will cause instant unconsciousness. Sure, the spine is severed, so the body below the cut can no longer talk to the brain. But why would the brain immediately shut down? Since we’re not draining any blood away, the brain should still be getting at least some oxygen, at least for another minute or so. If unconsciousness doesn’t happen instanty, I’m thinking being hung with a dislocated neck is going to hurt a lot.
Here was my plan, from the earlier Thread
I later modified it to 5 1lbs charges, likewise arranged.
This procedure also preserves the body organs in a usable (transplantable) form. So they can be used to save lives of other very sick people.
Whereas execution by gas chamber takes several minutes, and the poisonous gas goes thru much of the body in that time, contaminating many of the organs.
Yup.
Ironically, Dr. Guillotin (he’s, of course, the guy who invented it*) hated the idea of the death penalty. He worked on his machine in the hope that the DP would be eventually abolished - the guillotine was to be the humane “in the meantime” measure. He also wished that executions would be made private affairs rather than a public spectacle. They weren’t.
*not really : the machine existed before him, but he refined it, made sure it would do the job in one go, and lobbied in Parliament for it to be the one and only execution method of the Revolutionaries.
Seriously? Have you ever seen anyone who has o.d. on heroin? And as for cocaine, an overdose will induce acute myocardial infarction, otherwise known as a heart attack. Anyone who has had a severe heart attack can testify to just how painful and terrifying it can be.
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Personally, I would consider that to be far more morally reprehensible an act than that of performing the same experiment on any of the detritus that typically inhabits the death row blocks of American prisons.
Why not the Michael Jackson drug? It killed our hopes and dreams, surely it’s potent enough for real criminals like child molesters and murderers?
To say the least: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Execution_robespierre%2C_saint_just....jpg
If they were worried about ‘hurting’ him (personally, I don’t see a problem with inflicting pain on him… he didn’t think twice about it whe he raped and killed that 14 year old girl), why not give him the gas you are given in surgery to put him completely out, and when he’s completely unconscious, THEN go digging around for a vein? He won’t feel a thing and the problem’s solved.
I’m a hard-ass about shit like this. I think prisoners are coddled way too much. They don’t give their victems a choice or mercy. I’m all for an eye for an eye.
I’ve heard that the execution cocktail is so potent, it more or less “cooks” the organs; hence, they’re useless for transplants.
Doesn’t the Hippocratic Oath also prevent the doctor from giving a woman an abortion or the means to do one herself (RU486)? IIRC, the the 1980s, only one medical college in the US still required the Hippocratic Oath anyways.
Would a mod please move this trainwreck to GD? Thanks.
Since the OP was almost certainly answered, and the drift has started, let’s move this to IMHO–I don’t think it rises to the level of a Great Debate.
samclem Moderator, General Questions
Gas chambers have to be cleaned.
Whet ever happened to the .38 behind the ear? Cheap, simple, efficient. A tad messy, I’ll grant, but you can’t have everything.