# Why Verizon Wireless is going to get a boot shoved up the #$% **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 31, 2009, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-verizon-wireless-is-going-to-get-a-boot-shoved-up-the/491467 "2009-03-31T17:43:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-verizon-wireless-is-going-to-get-a-boot-shoved-up-the/491467/21 "2009-04-02T18:47:21Z")
Verizon already got a boot labeled “iPhone” shoved up its ass. ---
**Author:** ![MannyL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@MannyL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MannyL)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-verizon-wireless-is-going-to-get-a-boot-shoved-up-the/491467/22 "2009-04-03T00:47:21Z")
I can understand the issue if you are not getting a bill directly from Verizon Wireless. They are not Verizon but a partnership between Verizon and Vodaphone and their real name is Cello Partnership ---
**Author:** ![lindsaybluth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90db22/32.png) [@lindsaybluth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lindsaybluth)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-verizon-wireless-is-going-to-get-a-boot-shoved-up-the/491467/23 "2009-04-03T03:46:01Z")
> [@atomicbadgerrace](#): > > FTR, I agree that the OP and her boyfriend should have sucked it up from the beginning and paid what they owed…Maybe, but right now, it’s legal. And you (or your parents) signed up with it – agreeing to the costs and the contract length under your own free will. 1. Nobody cares what you think. Your opinion is totally irrelevant. What I was asking for were people’s experiences in dealing with wireless companies with credit issuance. 2. Lots of contracts are overturned or seen as illegal by courts. Just because costs and contract length exist and are legal now does not mean they will be in the future (and they certainly will not be). ---
**Author:** ![atomicbadgerrace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@atomicbadgerrace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atomicbadgerrace)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-verizon-wireless-is-going-to-get-a-boot-shoved-up-the/491467/24 "2009-04-03T03:53:41Z")
> [@lindsaybluth](#): > > 1. Nobody cares what you think. Your opinion is totally irrelevant. What I was asking for were people’s experiences in dealing with wireless companies with credit issuance. There was a brief side discussion going on in the thread. Quite frankly, _I_ don’t care what you think about what I think. Yay, Internet. > [@](#): > > 1. Lots of contracts are overturned or seen as illegal by courts. Just because costs and contract length exist and are legal now does not mean they will be in the future (and they certainly will not be). Man-- you polled the board _and_ you have a crystal ball! What’s coming out of that hat next, Houdini? When the contract is overturned, then you can complain about being screwed by the big bad phone company. Until then, you (or your parents) entered into a legal contract on their own free will. So sad. ---
**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-verizon-wireless-is-going-to-get-a-boot-shoved-up-the/491467/25 "2009-04-03T23:51:56Z")
> [@lindsaybluth](#): > > 1. Nobody cares what you think. Your opinion is totally irrelevant. What I was asking for were people’s experiences in dealing with wireless companies with credit issuance. Totally uncalled for. It’s a message board – and MPSIMS no less – what the hell is wrong with someone sharing their opinion, even if it’s not yours? Besides, you did ask for “any suggestions/ **comments/concerns** /experiences with getting credit issued from wireless providers” ---
**Author:** ![lindsaybluth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90db22/32.png) [@lindsaybluth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lindsaybluth)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2009, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-verizon-wireless-is-going-to-get-a-boot-shoved-up-the/491467/26 "2009-04-05T00:31:10Z")
> [@Reply](#): > > Totally uncalled for. Not at all. Everyone (yourself included) was giving extremely constructive advice, suggestions, and were sharing experiences except **atomicbadgerrace** , who was clearly hijacking. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2009, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-verizon-wireless-is-going-to-get-a-boot-shoved-up-the/491467/27 "2009-04-05T04:29:42Z")
I gotta side with OP. In a world where gigabytes can fly through the air like shit through a goose you gotta wonder what kind of scam job 1,000 texts costing $300 is. I get unlimited texts $10 so don’t be saying “but this and that cost money!” because apparently it costs under $10 for total infrastructure, not $300. I speak with some bitterness. My mom got slammed with a $900 worth of fees from centennial wireless because she wanted off their shitty network and out of her contract early. I’m trying to talk her into taking it to small claims court. If nothing else it’d make some great documentation of their sleaziness fto send to the local papers. ---
**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2009, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-verizon-wireless-is-going-to-get-a-boot-shoved-up-the/491467/28 "2009-04-05T05:14:12Z")
> [@lindsaybluth](#): > > Not at all. Everyone (yourself included) was giving extremely constructive advice, suggestions, and were sharing experiences except **atomicbadgerrace** , who was clearly hijacking. S/he was commenting directly about the situation at hand and disagreeing with you. I don’t see how that’s either irrelevant or hijacking. I thought it was over-the-top, but you clearly disagree and I’m not here to junior mod your thread. I’ve said my piece and I rest my case. ---
**Author:** ![atomicbadgerrace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@atomicbadgerrace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atomicbadgerrace)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-verizon-wireless-is-going-to-get-a-boot-shoved-up-the/491467/29 "2009-04-07T03:07:45Z")
> [@lindsaybluth](#): > > Not at all. Everyone (yourself included) was giving extremely constructive advice, suggestions, and were sharing experiences except **atomicbadgerrace** , who was clearly hijacking. How do you hijack a resolved situation? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-verizon-wireless-is-going-to-get-a-boot-shoved-up-the/491467/30 "2009-04-07T09:18:18Z")
I suspect that anyone that’s ever done any sort of demand planning can explain the costing quite simply. The way that I would explain the 1000 messages for $300 or $10 for all you can send is quite simple. In the previous plan, the provider does’t know how many messages you will send, but still have to add capacity so they charge more per message to make this back. In the latter example they can make a pretty good prediction of what you can send, or they use the fixed fee to add the capacity - as its a fixed fee. I used to set the pricing for Public Relations services - the fees for a fixed term retainer were always WAY cheaper than taking the services as and when you need them. Why? because on a fixed retainer I could hire a new staff member and budget their time. For variable demands, I wouldn’t take that risk, as most months you may only use a very small fraction of that employee’s time - leaving me a deficit to cover. To the OP - suck it up. You and your boyfriend should have been better informed and kept better track of the plan in this case. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-verizon-wireless-is-going-to-get-a-boot-shoved-up-the/491467.md?page=1)