# Why was Gandalf so sure that Sauron & Smaug would help one another, given the chance? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 25, 2009, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-gandalf-so-sure-that-sauron-smaug-would-help-one-another-given-the-chance/487401 "2009-02-25T18:58:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 2\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-gandalf-so-sure-that-sauron-smaug-would-help-one-another-given-the-chance/487401/61 "2009-02-27T02:33:20Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > Yeah, JRRT decided it wouldn’t be right to have parents produce a kid of their own, only to have him turn out to be somebody else when he grew up. Did you ever find anything definitive on that? I don’t recall seeing such, I just got the strong impression that he was leaning that way from the too many books I have partially stored away in my brain. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2009, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-gandalf-so-sure-that-sauron-smaug-would-help-one-another-given-the-chance/487401/62 "2009-02-27T02:54:46Z")
> [@Lochdale](#): > > I’m merely the lowest of acolytes but looking forward to learning more. Just getting back into Tolkien and boy do I love Middle-Earth! You’ve come to the right place, then! **Qadgop** , **What Exit?** and others here can teach you all you’ll ever need to know. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-gandalf-so-sure-that-sauron-smaug-would-help-one-another-given-the-chance/487401.md?page=3)