# Why was I suspended?

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-i-suspended/504287
**Category:** About This Message Board
**Created:** [July 26, 2009, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-i-suspended/504287 "2009-07-26T03:07:14Z")
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### Author: ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2009, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-i-suspended/504287/1 "2009-07-26T03:07:14Z")

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> [@](#):
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> [TubaDiva](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=523553)
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> Sailor is suspended for two weeks
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> For personal insults and not following moderator instructions.

Can someone point out to me very specifically what was the personal insult and what was the moderator instruction I failed to follow?

Because I cannot see it.

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### Author: ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2009, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-i-suspended/504287/2 "2009-07-26T03:23:52Z")

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> [@sailor](#):
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> Can someone point out to me very specifically what was the personal insult and what was the moderator instruction I failed to follow?
> 
> Because I cannot see it.

[In this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11311056) - which incidentally contained your last posts prior to this one - You continued playing with the “Regards, **Shodan** ” thing after being told not to and then told **SkipMagic** “You can take your warning and stuff it. You can take your warning and stuff it,” and then in the next post, “Oh, and you can stuff your threats as well.”

Mystery solved?

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### Author: ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2009, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-i-suspended/504287/3 "2009-07-26T03:36:32Z")

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That sounds like he was being disrespectful and rude, but I don’t see the “personal insult”.

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### Author: ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2009, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-i-suspended/504287/4 "2009-07-26T03:40:14Z")

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> [@Seven](#):
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> That sounds like he was being disrespectful and rude, but I don’t see the “personal insult”.

I believe **TubaDiva** was referring to the “Shitdan” thing in the OP, or she may have meant a separate warning **sailor** received a few days earlier.

EDIT: In either case, the basis of the suspension was obvious. I don’t think anybody will be shocked to learn that if you get warned and tell a moderator “stuff it” a couple of times, you’ll end up taking a break from the boards.

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### Author: ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2009, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-i-suspended/504287/5 "2009-07-26T03:48:51Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> EDIT: In either case, the basis of the suspension was obvious.

Granted.

But I think if an admin bans someone and give specific reasons, they should be honest reasons.

She should have just said “for being a disrespectful jerk”.

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### Author: ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2009, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-i-suspended/504287/6 "2009-07-26T03:59:32Z")

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**sailor** was admonished, although I don’t think he got a formal warning, for insults in Great Debates on June 21, which was a few days before he was suspended. This is probably what **TubaDiva** meant.

Describing the post as dishonest could also be construed as being a disrespectful jerk.

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### Author: ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2009, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-i-suspended/504287/7 "2009-07-26T04:01:31Z")

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Since you aren’t really sure either, I guess we have to wait and see what TubaDiva says.

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### Author: ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2009, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-i-suspended/504287/8 "2009-07-26T04:11:41Z")

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[A link to the post I mentioned.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11265254&postcount=174) It’s from about two weeks prior to **sailor** ’s suspension.

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### Author: ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2009, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-i-suspended/504287/9 "2009-07-26T04:23:50Z")

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Well, there you go.

Wasn’t that easy?

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### Author: ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2009, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-i-suspended/504287/10 "2009-07-26T04:25:29Z")

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> [@Seven](#):
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> Wasn’t that easy?

Once I figured out what to search for, it was. I trust you’ll be apologizing to **TubaDiva** for saying she was being dishonest?

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### Author: ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2009, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-i-suspended/504287/11 "2009-07-26T04:37:46Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> [In this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11311056) - which incidentally contained your last posts prior to this one - You continued playing with the “Regards, **Shodan** ” thing after being told not to

That issue was resolved with **Gfactor** rescinding what he said to me so I can’t see how it applies.

> [@Regarding Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/regarding-shodan/502076/11):
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> This is actually a good point. I rescind my instruction in that post. Moreover, I’m going to work on rescinding limitations on non-profile signatures in general in the Pit.
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> **Gfactor**  
> Moderator

It seems Gfactor and I managed to communicate and resolve things without problem until some other mod decided to swing his dick around.

> [@Marley23](#):
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> and then told **SkipMagic** “You can take your warning and stuff it. You can take your warning and stuff it,” and then in the next post, “Oh, and you can stuff your threats as well.”

Where’s the insult?

> [@Marley23](#):
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> Mystery solved?

No. Not at all.

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### Author: ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2009, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-i-suspended/504287/12 "2009-07-26T04:41:04Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> [A link to the post I mentioned.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11265254&postcount=174) It’s from about two weeks prior to **sailor** ’s suspension.

No warning was issued and I responded

> [@Fraudulent Elections in Iran](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fraudulent-elections-in-iran/499671/189):
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> OOPS! We are both also participating in a thread in the Pit and I got the wrong thread. My apologies to mswas and to the board.

It seems **tomndebb** managed to handle the situation pretty well without need to make a mountain out of a molehill as was done here. In any case, no warning was issued so I can’t see how I was suspended over this at all.

So?

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### Author: ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2009, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-i-suspended/504287/13 "2009-07-26T04:41:51Z")

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> [@sailor](#):
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> That issue was resolved with **Gfactor** rescinding what he said to me so I can’t see how it applies.

[SkipMagic warned you for it.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11311504#post11311504) Which you knew, because you then told him “stuff it,” twice, the end result being a vacation for you.

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> Where’s the insult?

The link is in post 8. You were admonished, and not warned, for calling somebody an idiot in Great Debates. It didn’t lead immediately to the suspension but it was included anyway.

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### Author: ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2009, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-i-suspended/504287/14 "2009-07-26T04:45:33Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Once I figured out what to search for, it was. I trust you’ll be apologizing to **TubaDiva** for saying she was being dishonest?

I still can’t find any valid reason for my suspension and I am pissed off that I got this condescending message

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> Sailor:
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> You are hereby suspended from the Straight Dope Message Board for two weeks beginning now and ending July 20.
> 
> This is for your abuse of other posters and violation of message board rules, including personal insults and not following moderator instructions.
> 
> Suspension is a serious matter and puts you on the fast track to being permanently banned. We hope you will reconsider your actions and work within the message board rules.
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> ## Jenny Administrator The Straight Dope/The Straight Dope Message Board
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> Warnings serve as a reminder to you of the forum’s rules, which you are expected to understand and follow.
> 
> All the best,  
> Straight Dope Message Board

So I am on the fast track for being banned? Now, isn’t that precious?

And I was suspended without notice or opportunity to discuss the issue and was even denied access to read the boards during the suspension.

Fuck that.

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### Author: ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2009, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-i-suspended/504287/15 "2009-07-26T04:47:57Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> [SkipMagic warned you for it.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11311504#post11311504) Which you knew, because you then told him “stuff it,” twice, the end result being a vacation for you.
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> The link is in post 8. You were admonished, and not warned, for calling somebody an idiot in Great Debates. It didn’t lead immediately to the suspension but it was included anyway.

This has to be the lamest explanation since the butthurt incident.

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### Author: ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2009, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-i-suspended/504287/16 "2009-07-26T04:50:41Z")

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> [@sailor](#):
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> I still can’t find any valid reason for my suspension

You were warned for violating the rules, and twice told the moderator to take his warning and stuff it. You thought the consequence for that was going to be what, exactly? You’re entitled to your opinion that it’s a bullshit rule, and you’re even provided with a forum to say so, but if you don’t follow it, them’s the breaks.

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> And I was suspended without notice

[**SkipMagic** advised you to stop it or you would be suspended or banned](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11311598&postcount=18) and you told him “you can stuff your threats.” The idea that you didn’t get notice is a flat-out lie.

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> and was even denied access to read the boards during the suspension.

One might say that’s all the more reason not to get suspended for repeatedly breaking the rules.

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### Author: ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2009, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-i-suspended/504287/17 "2009-07-26T04:54:08Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> You were warned for violating the rules, and twice told the moderator to take his warning and stuff it. You thought the consequence for that was going to be what, exactly? You’re entitled to your opinion that it’s a bullshit rule, and you’re even provided with a forum to say so, but if you don’t follow it, them’s the breaks.

Violating what rule?

I was told I was suspended for insults. What insults?

It seems to me this is just another case of making up ex post facto rules as wanted.

In other words, like bullshit. Once more.

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### Author: ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2009, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-i-suspended/504287/18 "2009-07-26T04:55:55Z")

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IANAMorA, but it seems foolish to come back from a suspension and then seemingly pick right up where you left off. If I were you I’d just admit you might have been acting suspend-worthy last time you were here, swallow your pride, and let it drop/go. Just MHO.

ETA: Hate to see anyone banned over a small thing.

ETA: Or, on preview, nevermind. : p

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### Author: ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2009, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-i-suspended/504287/19 "2009-07-26T04:56:33Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> One might say that’s all the more reason not to get suspended for repeatedly breaking the rules.

This board is regressing to the point where it is being run like an elementary school. Well, I am sorry but I have no interest in playing the role of a submissive elementary school pupil of 60 years ago.

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### Author: ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2009, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-i-suspended/504287/20 "2009-07-26T04:56:39Z")

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> [@sailor](#):
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> Violating what rule?

How many times do you want me to link to the same thread, **sailor**?

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