# Why was my Staving Artist Pit thread merged? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [October 4, 2012, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-my-staving-artist-pit-thread-merged/636664 "2012-10-04T04:40:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2012, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-my-staving-artist-pit-thread-merged/636664/81 "2012-10-05T18:09:01Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > He didn’t ask for an apology, he asked for an admission of error and a retraction. If he wants an apology on top of that, though, he’s welcome to one. Nope. All good – I appreciate the retraction as well as I retract my own general “you” claim referring to the moderators here. Your own list proves that I was wrong in your case. Thank you. > [@Gfactor](#): > > Sorry. Here’s my belated response: Your question was mooted by the fact that you’d already started that thread by the time I read the PM. Were the question not mooted, I would have said that I wanted to discuss the matter with **Miller** (we discuss stuff like this a lot to promote consistency), and that I would get back to you as soon as possible. No problem. And yes, I understand there was a timing issue as **Miller** asks upthread. I posted the EST time stamp of my PM to you, **10-03-2012, 02:08 PM** – a rough timeline tells me I opened my Pit thread about 3 to 4 hours after that, though I can’t be certain as the merger deleted the actual time of the post. But as you can see from that OP – quoted in [this thread’s](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15554209&postcount=1) OP – I opened only after reading the instructions given to the first poll – “take it to the Pit.” I’d also note that _at that time_ I was unaware of the _other thread_ in ATMB on this topic. I mention that in the OP as well. > [@Enola\_Gay](#): > > Hate to admit it, but this is a good point. Is there any doubt that any rational person would **not** conclude that SA’s “claim was wrong”? The poll results were a foregone conclusion. If you read my exchange with **Miller** you’ll notice that I wasn’t talking about **SA** at all, but rather **Miller’s** _own claim_ vis-a-vis the content of _my posts to the Paterno thread_ which he has since retracted. * * * > [@Zebra](#): > > All threads on the dope will merge into that that one thread. It will become a black hole from which no post can escape. > > We should shut that thread down now to save the universe. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2012, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-my-staving-artist-pit-thread-merged/636664/82 "2012-10-05T19:24:47Z")
> [@RedFury](#): > > If you read my exchange with **Miller** you’ll notice that I wasn’t talking about **SA** at all, but rather **Miller’s** _own claim_ vis-a-vis the content of _my posts to the Paterno thread_ which he has since retracted. You are correct, my mistake. In my defense, I never open a SA thread without a few stiff drinks first, so my judgment was understandably impaired. But the point I made still stands–the poll results were a forgone conclusion (but entertaining nonetheless). Obviously, the ONLY person who supports SA’s revolting position is SA himself. > [@Zebra](#): > > We should shut that thread down now to save the universe. Oh god no! That thread should go on until SA breathes his last breath. \*\*RefFury, Bryan Ekers \*\*and every other good samaritan who is willing to repeatedly hand SA his ass are doing a valuable public service. By continuing to prod him, they are effectively keeping him under house arrest since his obsession with defending child rape is apparently insatiable. Keeping him obsessively attached to his computer is far far better than closing the thread and having SA go out and engage in some of his other … hobbies. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-my-staving-artist-pit-thread-merged/636664/83 "2012-10-05T20:28:07Z")
I submit that if I’m going to be subjected to these kinds of vile and utterly ridiculous accusations that I be allowed to defend against them where they arise. **Enola Gay** is one of the most dishonest and reprehensible of the Paterno thread posters and I don’t believe it’s fair or just for him to be allowed to spout this kind of nonsense unchallenged. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2012, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-my-staving-artist-pit-thread-merged/636664/84 "2012-10-05T20:40:56Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I submit that if I’m going to be subjected to these kinds of vile and utterly ridiculous accusations that I be allowed to defend against them where they arise. For the last time, no. However, **Enola Gay** , you are also out of line for ATMB. If there is any more argument about the content of the Pit thread rather than the moderation, I will close this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-my-staving-artist-pit-thread-merged/636664/85 "2012-10-06T00:59:31Z")
No, don’t close it! That would be such a waste, when it could easily be… merged. You know where… Yes, tempting, isn’t it? Give in to your temptation. Feed the Pit Cancer! Feed it! All shall be one and despair!! Mwahahahahaha!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!! ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-my-staving-artist-pit-thread-merged/636664/86 "2012-10-06T02:05:43Z")
Speaking as someone that has been literally scuba diving in that septic tank of a thread (which I thoroughly enjoy)…I must say that it just seems Miller thought it should be contained to one thread and that seems like a reasonable thing to do, I don’t see the issue on this one. ---
**Author:** ![Ostrya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@Ostrya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ostrya)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-my-staving-artist-pit-thread-merged/636664/87 "2012-10-06T11:10:47Z")
What’s the harm in having the two threads? Esp since they’re different, as pointed out. Merging the threads sure seems like a control-freak busybody move. Many of us admire and respect a great deal all the time that moderators and administrators spend maintaining this site. But things like this make it appear they don’t have anything better to do with their time. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-my-staving-artist-pit-thread-merged/636664/88 "2012-10-06T19:01:36Z")
I’m tempted to start another thread about this in IMHO, asking for their opinions on it. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-my-staving-artist-pit-thread-merged/636664/89 "2012-10-06T23:27:49Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > I’m tempted to start another thread about this in IMHO, asking for their opinions on it. I want to start one in Elections asking how this will affect Pennsylvania’s electoral votes. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-my-staving-artist-pit-thread-merged/636664/90 "2012-10-08T00:09:18Z")
> [@RedFury](#): > > Nope. All good – I appreciate the retraction as well as I retract my own general “you” claim referring to the moderators here. Your own list proves that I was wrong in your case. > > Thank you. Thanks, I appreciate that. ---
**Author:** ![bldysabba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecccb3/32.png) [@bldysabba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bldysabba)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-my-staving-artist-pit-thread-merged/636664/91 "2012-10-08T00:35:21Z")
> [@Enola\_Gay](#): > > You are correct, my mistake. In my defense, I never open a SA thread without a few stiff drinks first, so my judgment was understandably impaired. But the point I made still stands–the poll results were a forgone conclusion (but entertaining nonetheless). Obviously, the ONLY person who supports SA’s revolting position is SA himself. > > Oh god no! That thread should go on until SA breathes his last breath. \*\*RefFury, Bryan Ekers \*\*and every other good samaritan who is willing to repeatedly hand SA his ass are doing a valuable public service. By continuing to prod him, they are effectively keeping him under house arrest since his obsession with defending child rape is apparently insatiable. Keeping him obsessively attached to his computer is far far better than closing the thread and having SA go out and engage in some of his other … hobbies. How come she doesn’t get a warning but **mhendo** does? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-my-staving-artist-pit-thread-merged/636664/92 "2012-10-08T06:42:05Z")
> [@bldysabba](#): > > How come she doesn’t get a warning but **mhendo** does? Possibly because there’s not the same history of abuse? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-my-staving-artist-pit-thread-merged/636664.md?page=4)