# Why was Seven banned? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [July 28, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610 "2009-07-28T22:53:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![starwarsfreek42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@starwarsfreek42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/starwarsfreek42)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/241 "2009-07-29T16:24:44Z")
A couple of insults have already been tossed around this thread and ignored, if I’m not mistaken. ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/242 "2009-07-29T16:25:59Z")
> [@NAF1138](#): > > Ok, even if I am willing to agree with you that Seven was nothing but a useless douche\*, are we really going to start using that as a reason to ban people? > \*I don’t, but that isn’t the point If so, there had better be [some consistency](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11389266&postcount=186). ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/243 "2009-07-29T16:26:26Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > However, since his only reason for being here was to complain about being here, it seems almost a kindness to ensure that he doesn’t have to complain anymore. You should apply for a Mod position. ---
**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/244 "2009-07-29T16:28:59Z")
> [@SoulFrost](#): > > You should apply for a Mod position. By his posts in this thread, I’d say his application is already in. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/245 "2009-07-29T16:30:33Z")
> [@SoulFrost](#): > > You should apply for a Mod position. Fair disclosure: I _did_- I applied for **Giraffe’s** job in the Pit when he resigned (and was turned down, I might add). Seriously, though- if your only reason for posting here is to complain about posting here, the logical solution is “don’t be here”, surely? I get short with people who complain about board policy and moderation and so forth, but I’d never support banning someone for doing so. I _do_ support banning someone who doesn’t do anything else. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/246 "2009-07-29T16:33:15Z")
> [@DudleyGarrett](#): > > By his posts in this thread, I’d say his application is already in. You’re welcome to review my posting history; I’ve been in bed with TPTB pretty much since I first signed up, so you can be assured my posting in this thread has nothing to do with wanting to be a mod. AFAICR, the only time I voiced genuine disagreement was when **Otto** got banned because **Ed** was feeling pissy. ---
**Author:** ![lightingtool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/57b2e6/32.png) [@lightingtool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lightingtool)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/247 "2009-07-29T16:33:48Z")
> [@starwarsfreek42](#): > > A couple of insults have already been tossed around this thread and ignored, if I’m not mistaken. Did you report the posts so the mods and admins have a good chance of finding them? I did. -brown-nosing [del]nonny[/del] tool ---
**Author:** ![Promethea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Promethea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Promethea)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/248 "2009-07-29T16:35:14Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Fair disclosure: I _did_- I applied for **Giraffe’s** job in the Pit when he resigned (and was turned down, I might add). > > Seriously, though- if your only reason for posting here is to complain about posting here, the logical solution is “don’t be here”, surely? > > I get short with people who complain about board policy and moderation and so forth, but I’d never support banning someone for doing so. I _do_ support banning someone who doesn’t do anything else. Then I believe you to be acting in error here and doing seven a disservice - to the best of my knowledge, seven has made many offers to share his database expertise in improving the board, giving his time and expert advice for nothing. I’d day that counts as making a positive contribution, wouldn’t you? ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/249 "2009-07-29T16:35:15Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Fair disclosure: I _did_- I applied for **Giraffe’s** job in the Pit when he resigned (and was turned down, I might add). > > Seriously, though- if your only reason for posting here is to complain about posting here, the logical solution is “don’t be here”, surely? > > I get short with people who complain about board policy and moderation and so forth, but I’d never support banning someone for doing so. I _do_ support banning someone who doesn’t do anything else. I would say that the solution is to work through whatever issues you have. Almost always, when a poster has been here for a considerable time, the raging against the machine is temporary. Those who have given up are in the “don’t be here” crowd. Those who snark, bitch, and complain generally still hope for positive change. ---
**Author:** ![Myrnalene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@Myrnalene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrnalene)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/250 "2009-07-29T16:35:21Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Generally, no. However, if hypothetical poster X’s _raison d’etre_ is to whinge about board policy, why not? > > If **Seven** had contributed something meaningful in GQ or GD, or anywhere, for that matter, that didn’t involve the admins and/or Lib, I would be totally on board with the “bring him back!” crowd. > > However, since his only reason for being here was to complain about being here, it seems almost a kindness to ensure that he doesn’t have to complain anymore. So the thousands of other posts he’s made over the years are negated by 100 complaining and anti-Lib posts? If we are going to use this as a standard for banning, could you please clarify what the ratio should be? Let’s see, using this situation as a guide - I have about 520 posts. So, if I make 13 posts in a row bitching about the board, I can get banned? 🙂 I can do that, easy! ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/251 "2009-07-29T16:38:27Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Personally, I’m not sorry to see him go. He was a **dumb fuck** , and he reminded me of Lib around the time of that stupid “different town” post. > > In so saying, quoting **TD** in his sig was _hilarious_. > [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > No doubt. I’m probably one of them. However, it’s one thing to have 100+ posts about **Lib** _en toto_, and quite another to have 100 of them in a row. > > That is so, but **Seven** wasn’t a troll. He was, however, a **useless douche**. > [@Dreamy\_B](#): > > Isn’t it against the rules to insult another poster outside of the pit, particularly one who is not around to defend themselves? Bolding mine. I reported the first post. I do believe it’s against the rules. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/252 "2009-07-29T16:40:14Z")
> [@Promethea](#): > > Then I believe you to be acting in error here and doing seven a disservice - to the best of my knowledge, seven has made many offers to share his database expertise in improving the board, giving his time and expert advice for nothing. I’d day that counts as making a positive contribution, wouldn’t you? If that’s the case, I’d certainly withdraw my support. TBH, I’m not hugely familiar with **Seven** ; I read what Marley and TD said, looked at his last 100 posts, and found it was true. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/253 "2009-07-29T16:41:55Z")
> [@featherlou](#): > > Let’s not let this get lost in the noise - I would like to hear from someone in authority on this. Was Seven banned in part because of his participation on other messageboards? IANAMod, but I am not saying he was banned because of his participation on other messageboards. My understanding is that you can post to whatever other boards you like, but you may not link to them. ISTM the emergence of the splinter boards has led to the exodus of an undetermined number of former Dopers. Some of those former Dopers are still members (or, usually, Guests) on the SDMB. But they no longer give a shit, and post in such a manner as to solicit banning. Or at the very least, in a spirit of “I am going to say whatever I want and fuck it”. **Seven** was, I believe, one of those. There are others. > [@starwarsfreek42](#): > > A couple of insults have already been tossed around this thread and ignored, if I’m not mistaken. Gee, no kidding. FWIW, this is the sort of thing that looks to me like a yen for the ban. We saw it from **sailor** , now we are seeing it from **Xploder** and **Syntropy**. Either they have forgotten that complaints about the mods are no longer in the Pit, or they don’t care anymore. If nothing is done, they’ll just escalate. Just like **Seven** did, IOW. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/254 "2009-07-29T16:43:18Z")
**sailor** was banned? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/255 "2009-07-29T16:50:47Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > **sailor** was banned? Yes, but he got better. ---
**Author:** ![Khampelf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Khampelf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khampelf)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/256 "2009-07-29T16:51:14Z")
Why don’t the mods just come out and say “We will ban whomever we want, we can always justify itafterward, and anyway, fuck you if you don’t like it.” That would be accurate and honest. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/257 "2009-07-29T16:52:03Z")
Because you’re not allowed to say “fuck you”, silly. ---
**Author:** ![starwarsfreek42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@starwarsfreek42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/starwarsfreek42)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/258 "2009-07-29T16:53:24Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > If nothing is done, they’ll just escalate. Just like **Seven** did, IOW. > > Regards, > Shodan You can’t just go around punishing people for crimes they haven’t committed but might in the future. \*\*Seven \*\*didn’t actually break a rule to provoke this banning. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/259 "2009-07-29T16:55:06Z")
> [@starwarsfreek42](#): > > You can’t just go around punishing people for crimes they haven’t committed but might in the future. Tell that to Dick Cheney! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/260 "2009-07-29T16:56:47Z")
> [@Rebo](#): > > This hits the nail on the head. Nobody agrees with TPTB. Tuba got pissy when he quoted her PM, and “Off with his head!” A warning, or a suspension should have been the course of action before bannination. > > You guys really need to listen to us on this one issue, at least. I’m still waiting for a link to the rule that says you can’t post the accurately quoted content of a PM in a sig. It may not be “nice” but I’ve never seen a rule against it–and if Tuba has the balls to say something she ought to have the balls to own it when it becomes less than private. We’re all aware that on the internet, one should assume that anything one discloses can and probably will become public knowledge, and quite frankly I’d say Ms Tuba knows quite a bit more than most about how private information can become public at any time–this shouldn’t have been any sort of a shock to her, nor should **Seven** have incurred a penalty this major, considering how precedent was established that others may commit infinitely more grievous offenses re violations of privacy and yet remain unscathed. > [@Shodan](#): > > No, not everyone. **Seven** wanted to be banned. He/she got his/her wish. For once in my life, I don’t see a problem with a banning, and I tend to be a bit more critical of many mod actions than the average Doper. > > FWIW, and it ain’t worth much. > > Regards, > Shodan What a fascinating idea–let’s see how it works in other situations: “That bitch was looking to get raped, and she got her wish. If she didn’t want to be raped, she wouldn’t have worn clothes that allow her body to be seen.” “That guy was looking to get mugged, and got his wish. If he didn’t want to get mugged he wouldn’t have had money in his pocket.” “You were looking to have a car accident, and you got your wish. If you don’t want to be slammed into by another car you shouldn’t be driving.” Wow, it’s amazing how you can use that to blame the victim in pretty much any circumstance! And so convenient, too, since it means nobody ever has to take any sort of action or fight for a principle–the victim WANTED it, so it’s all nothing to see here, folks, just mooooooooove right along! > [@Polyperchon](#): > > But let’s ignore that for the moment, because I’d like one straight forward question answered in a straight forward manner, if you will: > > **why was Seven consider jerkish for quoting Tuba in his sig but Tuba not considered jerkish, and warned, for saying what she said?** > [@Myrnalene](#): > > **Is it against the rules to post private correspondence from a mod?** Count me in as wanting to see substantive answers to these questions. I’d really prefer them not to have sphincter marks on them from being yanked at high speed out of an anus, but I realize that might be difficult to accomplish around here and am willing to make allowances for [ahem] fundamental incapacity. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610.md?page=14)