# Why was Seven banned?

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**Created:** [July 28, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610 "2009-07-28T22:53:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/121 "2009-07-29T05:15:21Z")

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> [@starwarsfreek42](#):
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> Awesome. New sigs for everyone!

[Quote=Edit Signature]

1. BB code **quote** is not allowed.  
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Ahahahahahahahaha!

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**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/122 "2009-07-29T05:18:40Z")

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> [@bufftabby](#):
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> Ahahahahahahahaha!

Yuou = phail!

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**Author:** ![LordVor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90ced4/32.png) [@LordVor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LordVor)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/123 "2009-07-29T05:30:43Z")

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So if I may make a silly observation, do you really think that Ed’s going to be all that upset by us all raising a stink to the tune of several thousand ad-views in a very short amount of time by SD standards? There are better places where we all can discuss this without generating revenue for Creative Accounting.

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**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/124 "2009-07-29T05:32:23Z")

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> [@LordVor](#):
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> So if I may make a silly observation, do you really think that Ed’s going to be all that upset by us all raising a stink to the tune of several thousand ad-views in a very short amount of time by SD standards? There are better places where we all can discuss this without generating revenue for Creative Accounting.

The bottom fell out of the ad impressions market man, it’s all about subscriptions again.

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**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/125 "2009-07-29T05:36:14Z")

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Everyone who sees ads, raise your hands. _does not raise hand_

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**Author:** ![starwarsfreek42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@starwarsfreek42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/starwarsfreek42)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/126 "2009-07-29T05:37:31Z")

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**swf42** : does not see ads.

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**Author:** ![Elyanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b5ac83/32.png) [@Elyanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elyanna)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/127 "2009-07-29T05:44:41Z")

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I, um, don’t see ads.

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**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/128 "2009-07-29T05:50:11Z")

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> [@LordVor](#):
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> So if I may make a silly observation, do you really think that Ed’s going to be all that upset by us all raising a stink to the tune of several thousand ad-views in a very short amount of time by SD standards? There are better places where we all can discuss this without generating revenue for Creative Accounting.

Who’s trying to upset Ed?

And who the hell sees ads?  
Like **seven** (_crosses self_) [says](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11180426#post11180426),

> [@seven](#):
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> I even paid a couple years to keep this place going.  
> But now all it means is you don’t know how to use an ad blocker.

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**Author:** ![starwarsfreek42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@starwarsfreek42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/starwarsfreek42)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/129 "2009-07-29T05:50:55Z")

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What have ads got to do with anything? **Seven** was banned, here!

**swf42:** takes the bannedwagon seriously.

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/130 "2009-07-29T06:54:28Z")

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> [@LordVor](#):
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> So if I may make a silly observation, do you really think that Ed’s going to be all that upset by us all raising a stink to the tune of several thousand ad-views in a very short amount of time by SD standards? There are better places where we all can discuss this without generating revenue for Creative Accounting.

Now you are catching on. That’s all this thread is doing. I’m guilty of it as well. I stopped reading certain poster’s postings (can’t mention names here, only in the pit for some reason, but just to be clear, these posters are not necessarily on my special list), because that’s all it does. Generate views, start squabbles, and inevitably end in the wrong poster being banned.

If mental illness or suspected trolling were a qualification, this board would be rid of some of its most prolific posters. But we can’t have that.

Oh, and for the record, the long hair comment was a joke. I think I said that in my posting. Unless of course you have a star of david on your chest. Then, on the train! And it’s only a train because it’s on some tracks. No seats. Just tin cattle cars. Everything will be fine. You’ll just be relocated, pick up your belongings when we stop.

Oh Great Pumpkin, where are you?

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**Author:** ![Promethea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Promethea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Promethea)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/131 "2009-07-29T07:24:41Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> How many other posters have been banned for _one_ warning, one mod admonishment and one thread that was legal under the rules in place at the time it was posted but was made illegal retroactively?

I would also very much like to see an answer to this question, **Fenris**. No period of suspension? Especially for such a longstanding member of the Board? It feels completely like the decision was made to ban and then a scrabbling around for reasons was carried out after the fact.

> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#):
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> I’ll try not to be obtuse if you try, okay? So quoting Tuba, who was being a jerk, makes him also a jerk? Wouldn’t that make him a jerk by association? He’s like a moon orbiting a bigger jerk, not really a jerk on his own, right?

Beautifully put. And I’m presuming that’s the true reason for this decision. Sheer embarrassment at everyone seeing how bizarrely spiteful one of your administrator can be when they think no-one’s watching. This decision shames the entire administration of this board.

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**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/132 "2009-07-29T07:37:55Z")

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> [@Promethea](#):
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> I would also very much like to see an answer to this question, **Fenris**. No period of suspension? Especially for such a longstanding member of the Board? It feels completely like the decision was made to ban and then a scrabbling around for reasons was carried out after the fact.
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> Beautifully put. And I’m presuming that’s the true reason for this decision. Sheer embarrassment at everyone seeing how bizarrely spiteful one of your administrator can be when they think no-one’s watching. This decision shames the entire administration of this board.

Yeah well, at the risk of this seeming like a crusade, I have read many of Tubadiva posts around and about, and it seems to me she takes pride in being somewhat unreasonable. I can’t help but be reminded of the female protagonist from “[One Foot in the Grave](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnEgJJi7Bng)”

I also don’t see it as too much of a coincidence that her user name should include DIVA…from [here](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/diva), diva = primadonna.

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**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/133 "2009-07-29T07:52:25Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I don’t think so. A suspension is a message that something needs to change. If you’re upfront that you’re breaking the rules intentionally it wouldn’t do much good.  
> \*\*I understand you don’t agree but let’s not be obtuse. The issue is not that it’s a quote, it’s that it was being a jerk - and also an acknowledgement that complaining and attacking and annoying was indeed his primary purpose here.  
> \*\*  
> We’ve said in the past that if all you’re going to do here is complain, you’ll be suspended or banned. You’re not expected to like all our decisions and you’re welcome to ask questions and disagree, but if that’s your primary activity it’s another story.

I think it is very interesting that you saw it in such a way. I saw it more as someone taking an insult and wearing it as a badge of honor, precisely because it isn’t true, to take the sting out of it. Obviously our mileage varies here.

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**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/134 "2009-07-29T07:59:38Z")

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[Quote=bangangmo]  
I also don’t see it as too much of a coincidence that her user name should include DIVA…from here, diva = primadonna.  
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No, no, you’re pronouncing it wrong. 😉

_Tuba Divah  
you’ve been down too long in the midnight sea  
oh what’s becoming of me  
Ride the tiger  
you can see his stripes but you know he’s clean  
oh don’t you see what I mean  
Gotta get away Tuba Divah, yeah  
Got shiny diamonds like the eyes of a cat  
in the black and blue,  
something is coming for you, look out  
Race for the morning you can hide in the sun  
'till you see the light  
oh we will pray it’s all right  
Gotta get away, get away  
Between the velvet lies  
there’s a truth that’s hard as steel, yeah  
The vision never dies  
life’s a never ending wheel  
Tuba Divah you’re the star of the masquerade  
no need to look so afraid  
Jump, jump_

My buddy Ronnie James Dio helped me write that song.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/135 "2009-07-29T08:05:50Z")

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Wow. That banning is bullshit.

I’ve seen and smelled some bullshit on these boards, but that stinks more than most.

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**Author:** ![spinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@spinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spinky)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/136 "2009-07-29T08:22:47Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I understand you don’t agree but let’s not be obtuse. The issue is not that it’s a quote, it’s that it was being a jerk - and also an acknowledgement that complaining and attacking and annoying was indeed his primary purpose here.

I interpret his signature much in the same way **Zabali\_Clawbane** does a few posts back: **TubaDiva** was a jerk to him in a PM, and he thought it was funny to shine a spotlight on it. There’s no way that you can call that jerkish without also acknowledging that **TubaDiva’s** message was something she shouldn’t have been saying.

And no, the quote does **not** acknowledge that he’s primarily here to attack and annoy. That claim is bullshit.

Your humble customer,  
**ntucker**

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/137 "2009-07-29T08:28:54Z")

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> [@ntucker](#):
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> And no, the quote does **not** acknowledge that he’s primarily here to attack and annoy. That claim is bullshit.

Exactly.

If i go to a thread in the Pit and say to someone…

**You are a complete troll and an asshole.**

…and they then add that line to their sig and attribute it to me, it does NOT constitute an admission that they are a troll and an asshole. It does nothing more than repeat my accusation, and says more about me than it does about them.

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**Author:** ![spinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@spinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spinky)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/138 "2009-07-29T08:38:54Z")

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> [@ntucker](#):
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> There’s no way that you can call that jerkish without also acknowledging that **TubaDiva’s** message was something she shouldn’t have been saying.

To clarify: I don’t care about what **TubaDiva** said to **Seven**. I don’t think it was particularly jerky and I think the admins should be allowed to say stuff like that to people if they want. But if they’re going to say stuff like that, they need to suck it up when they get quoted. Either **Seven’s** not a jerk or **TubaDiva** is. Take your pick.

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**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/139 "2009-07-29T08:55:53Z")

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Near as I can figure, the last mod comment in this thread was by Marley at post 27, yesterday at 5:31 pm.

So around 9 hours and more than 100 posts. It seems to be one of three things, either they’re all asleep, damn slow to read and respond or are ignoring us. Which do you think is most likely?

Good to see that our venerated overlords take an active part in discussions on this board and the moderation there of and care about feedback.

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**Author:** ![Elyanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b5ac83/32.png) [@Elyanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elyanna)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/140 "2009-07-29T08:57:18Z")

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I think they’re taking time to discuss it and come to a consensus.

Or ignoring it and hoping it’ll go away. Yeah.

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