# Why was Seven banned?

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**Created:** [July 28, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610 "2009-07-28T22:53:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![starwarsfreek42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@starwarsfreek42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/starwarsfreek42)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/141 "2009-07-29T08:59:07Z")

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**swf42** : not ignoring **Elyanna**.

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**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/142 "2009-07-29T09:00:21Z")

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> [@Elyanna](#):
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> I think they’re taking time to discuss it and come to a consensus.
> 
> Or ignoring it and hoping it’ll go away. Yeah.

Hmmm…Ostrich meat is really valuable isn’t it? And in some places don’t they run Ostrich races as a spectator sport? Do you think we could round up the mods and convince them to race? That may be my new internet business plan.

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/143 "2009-07-29T09:08:06Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Seven has been banned for recreational complaining and trolling.
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> Since he returned to the boards earlier this year, Seven has done little except attack other posters and complain about the way the board is run.
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> Here’s one post that drew a warning, and here’s another. In addition to his recent Snarkpit thread, see his sig here.

You know, the more I look at this “reasoning”, the more it bugs me.

No suspension? I can see where the warnings were appropriate. But the next step in your decision making is a posting he made about the Snarkpit, which as I understand it, he was looking for some clarification on _why_ the thread was deleted, and then a quote from a PM from **TubaDiva** , to me a totally classless thing to write to any poster from an admin, moderator, or anyone else that represents the “board”, but once written, is fair game to be quoted. **TubaDiva** wasn’t misquoted, and I don’t see how that’s something that is even remotely ban-worthy. I would have quoted that line myself and put it in my sig. **Sleeping with Butterflies** hit the nail on the head with her comment about the sig quote.

This is one of the weakest bannings I can remember seeing.

Criticism of the board should be permitted. After all, criticism can make the board better. But I guess only if TPTB are listening. \<choke\> Sorry. Coffee almost came out of my nose after I re-read that.

PS. This is NOT recreational complaining… this is the real deal.

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/144 "2009-07-29T09:14:06Z")

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I suppose if I post some of the nasty PMs I’ve received from Tuba I will be banned too. :rolleyes:

This banning is nonsense. But I’d be willing to bet this thread will be ignored by TPTB and no apology or un-banning will ever occur.

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**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/145 "2009-07-29T09:22:22Z")

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> [@leander](#):
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> I suppose if I post some of the nasty PMs I’ve received from Tuba I will be banned too. :rolleyes:
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> This banning is nonsense. But I’d be willing to bet this thread will be ignored by TPTB and no apology or un-banning will ever occur.

Just how many people have received nasty PMs from her? Now I am starting to feel all left out that I’ve never received one. Perhaps it should be arranged that every new member gets a nasty PM as part of the welcome package?

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**Author:** ![starwarsfreek42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@starwarsfreek42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/starwarsfreek42)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/146 "2009-07-29T09:32:13Z")

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Now, now. If we all jump on the bannedwagon, who will be left here to defend those who jumped on it before us? I too am willing to bet that no mod or admin comes back to this thread unless somebody breaks a rule. Any volunteers?

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/147 "2009-07-29T09:37:20Z")

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Kat: As long as you have any sort of “Member” in your status, threats to leave the board inherently ring hollow. Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t see the board as being any worse than it was back when you would have had to re-up.

As for my opinion on the matter: Seven may not have been the most respectful poster (and, like too many here, cares way too much about **Liberal** ), but a banning without at least a suspension to give the person the ability to make reparations? Yeah, that is totally not kosher.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/148 "2009-07-29T09:42:05Z")

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> [@starwarsfreek42](#):
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> Now, now. If we all jump on the bannedwagon, who will be left here to defend those who jumped on it before us? I too am willing to bet that no mod or admin comes back to this thread unless somebody breaks a rule. Any volunteers?

I hope this is a joke. This is a very bad idea. If you do that, you are damning your cause. You will just serve to justify the banning, as you are demonstrating that your opinion is only held by rulebreakers.

Yeah, it’s _ad hominem_, but it’s also human nature. And while some mods show a propensity for intellectual arguments, it’s awfully rare amongst many posters here to reassess their “gut” decisions.

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**Author:** ![starwarsfreek42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@starwarsfreek42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/starwarsfreek42)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/149 "2009-07-29T09:44:25Z")

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Yes, it was a joke.

**swf42** : doesn’t actually take herself as seriously as previously indicated.

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**Author:** ![bufftabby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/77aa72/32.png) [@bufftabby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bufftabby)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/150 "2009-07-29T10:20:02Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Kat: As long as you have any sort of “Member” in your status, threats to leave the board inherently ring hollow. Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t see the board as being any worse than it was back when you would have had to re-up.

What, there’s a button she can press to remove “member” from beside her name? Sure, she can fail to re-up next time, but there’s not much to be done between now and then, is there? Seeing as how it’s been less than a year since the rules here changed dramatically and for the worse, your statement about “when you would have had to re-up” is illogical. One could even argue that this place became worse the moment **7** ’s ridiculous and thoughtless banning took place. I’ve got no beef with you really, but I disagree with your statement to **Kat**. She’s not one for hollow words.

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**Author:** ![Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cc9497/32.png) [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt.Ridley_s_Shooting_Party)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/151 "2009-07-29T10:26:30Z")

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Terrible decision. The moderators can’t even be bothered to try to defend the stupidity of it all. **Seven** ’s banning’s little more than punishment for helping to run a spin-off board and insulting the sensibilities of Tuba by quoting _her own words_.

Here, I’ll make the cull easier for you:

**GiraffeBoards** : Giraffe, hajario, GIGObuster, Fenris, Jaade, fluiddruid, Dolores Reborn, TVeblen, Seven.

**Domebo** : CRSP, ntucker, What Exit?, CatInASuit, AllWalker, NAF1138, Caerie, Winston Smith, pepperlandgirl.

Tip: think up your excuses a little sooner, so they seem more convincing, next time :dubious:.

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**Author:** ![Polyperchon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/50afbb/32.png) [@Polyperchon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polyperchon)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/152 "2009-07-29T10:38:17Z")

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Ha! At four pages I stupidly assumed there would be more Mod/Admin input than just Marley’s post. More the fool am I.

I’d like to add my voice, again, to those who would like to know why quoting Tuba’s words is considered jerkish behaviour but Tuba actually saying them is not.

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**Author:** ![Xploder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a183cd/32.png) [@Xploder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xploder)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/153 "2009-07-29T10:53:41Z")

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Because she’s **TUBA** dammit!

Don’t you guys know anything?

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**Author:** ![starwarsfreek42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@starwarsfreek42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/starwarsfreek42)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/154 "2009-07-29T10:55:02Z")

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As a mere, humble lurker, I know nothing. Who the hell is **Seven**?

Actually, that’s a lie.

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**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/155 "2009-07-29T11:00:25Z")

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> [@starwarsfreek42](#):
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> As a mere, humble lurker, I know nothing. Who the hell is **Seven**?
> 
> Actually, that’s a lie.

He’s easy to find - he’s the one that walks around with what looks like a cucumber in his pants

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**Author:** ![Xploder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a183cd/32.png) [@Xploder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xploder)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/156 "2009-07-29T11:01:30Z")

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He keeps it in his pants now?

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**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/157 "2009-07-29T11:07:27Z")

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> [@Xploder](#):
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> He keeps it in his pants now?

God I hope so - I have no desire to see his weapon of war and subjugation. It would be too scary.

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**Author:** ![starwarsfreek42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@starwarsfreek42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/starwarsfreek42)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/158 "2009-07-29T11:08:29Z")

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Well I am a fan of cucumbers, and pants.

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**Author:** ![Xploder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a183cd/32.png) [@Xploder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xploder)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/159 "2009-07-29T11:09:33Z")

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> [@bengangmo](#):
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> God I hope so - I have no desire to see his weapon of war and subjugation. It would be too scary.

Ah, it’s not that bad, just pretend you’re here, bend over and spread 'em and hope there’s gonna be some grease involved.

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**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-seven-banned/504610/160 "2009-07-29T11:20:37Z")

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> [@Xploder](#):
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> Ah, it’s not that bad, just pretend you’re here, bend over and spread 'em and hope there’s gonna be some grease involved.

I thought we had to pay extra for grease?

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