# Why was Strunk banned?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 26, 2007, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-strunk-banned/393763 "2007-02-26T20:13:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-strunk-banned/393763/21 "2007-02-26T20:53:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Jodi]  
Wait a sec – do you _know_ that **ATP** was banned for being **Strunk** and/or **QSS** , or are you just guessing?

I’m not challenging you, I’m just trying to keep up.  
[/QUOTE]  
No, sorry, I am not. I know nothing other than what I THINK I MIGHT know, by putting two and two together.

What I was trying to say there is that if I AM right, and it was **Pliny** (which we may never know), I would be surprised in the sense that I would never have expected to be him.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-strunk-banned/393763/22 "2007-02-26T20:54:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]  
I’m pretty sure she is guessing. \*\*Pliny \*\*was banned an hour before \*\*QSS \*\*outed himself. I reported his post, and about ten minutes later \*\*QSS \*\*was banned.  
[/QUOTE]

I suspect, they must have got a dozen reports of that post. I reported it around the same time. I am sure we were not the only ones.

Jim

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-strunk-banned/393763/23 "2007-02-26T20:54:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]  
I’m pretty sure she is guessing. \*\*Pliny \*\*was banned an hour before \*\*QSS \*\*outed himself. I reported his post, and about ten minutes later \*\*QSS \*\*was banned.  
[/QUOTE]  
Dunno, of course, but my gut feeling agrees with **Sarahfeena** , I don’t believe that was really **prr** , I think it was someone else trying to screw with everybody concerned.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-strunk-banned/393763/24 "2007-02-26T20:59:02Z")

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[QUOTE=Sarahfeena]  
I think it was because he was a sock. [According to Pliny](http://208.100.26.199/sdmb/showthread.php?t=410051) was just banned, as well, apparently for having more than one screen name.  
[/QUOTE]  
Thank Og for that. He was starting to damage my calm.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-strunk-banned/393763/25 "2007-02-26T21:02:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]  
I’m pretty sure she is guessing. \*\*Pliny \*\*was banned an hour before \*\*QSS \*\*outed himself. I reported his post, and about ten minutes later \*\*QSS \*\*was banned.  
[/QUOTE]  
Dang, and I thought I was so smart. 😉 Of course, it’s possible that the mods were onto him before the post you reported, and that the timing of that was a coincidence. It seems like it would be a bigger coinicidence for **Pliny** to be banned for having more than one screen name, right in the middle of all this, and for him not to be the culprit.

I am still of the mind, though (like **ETF** ), that it had something to do with the **PRR** / **Liberal** thing. The names of the two new posters and the subjects of the threads they were starting seems like just too much of a coincidence to not be related.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-strunk-banned/393763/26 "2007-02-26T21:07:59Z")

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[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy]  
Dunno, of course, but my gut feeling agrees with **Sarahfeena** , I don’t believe that was really **prr** , I think it was someone else trying to screw with everybody concerned.  
[/QUOTE]  
Oh, sure. I was just referring to whether it was **Pliny**. It seems it it were, then all the banninating would have happened at once. I’m thinking \*\*Strunk \*\*and \*\*QSS \*\*were the same. In retrospect, it is obvious. As I said in my post to him, he was claiming something that we have no way of confirming. I suspect \*\*prr \*\*would have been a bit more clever,and dragged it out longer.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-strunk-banned/393763/27 "2007-02-26T21:09:07Z")

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[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]  
\*\*Pliny \*\*was banned an hour before \*\*QSS \*\*outed himself.  
[/QUOTE]  
Well, ignoring the evidence in ATMB, and looking at just his last post, **Pliny** was obviously banned for being [too pedantic in GQ](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?searchid=2332816) :eek:

Still, **QSS** posted “Whoops! Busted.” _before_ being banned. Could be he found that out by attempting to log into a name that had _just_ been banned.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-strunk-banned/393763/28 "2007-02-26T21:10:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Stranger On A Train]  
Thank Og for that. He was starting to damage my calm.

Stranger  
[/QUOTE]

If this is not a joke could you explain, I barely know who Pliny is?

Jim

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**Author:** ![enigm4tic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@enigm4tic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enigm4tic)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-strunk-banned/393763/29 "2007-02-26T21:12:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Omegaman]  
Fuckin’ new posters .  
[/QUOTE]

yeah those asshats… who actually STARTS posting here, honestly.  
Wait.  
Shit.  
:smack:

heh I always got the trolling impression from Strunk, obviously just around to rile things up, and I kept track of the prr thing and saw the qss reference but figured that could have been terrible coincidence, since he didn’t seem to be particularly trolling (in the threads I read, at least)

:shrug:

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-strunk-banned/393763/30 "2007-02-26T21:12:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Squink]  
Well, ignoring the evidence in ATMB, and looking at just his last post, **Pliny** was obviously banned for being [too pedantic in GQ](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?searchid=2332816) :eek:

Still, **QSS** posted “Whoops! Busted.” _before_ being banned. Could be he found that out by attempting to log into a name that had _just_ been banned.  
[/QUOTE]

No that was either an admission that he was a sock or a very bad taste joke. I suspect the very bad taste joke.

Jim

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-strunk-banned/393763/31 "2007-02-26T21:14:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Squink]  
Well, ignoring the evidence in ATMB, and looking at just his last post, **Pliny** was obviously banned for being [too pedantic in GQ](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?searchid=2332816) :eek:  
[/QUOTE]  
Linky no worky.

> [@](#):
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> Still, **QSS** posted “Whoops! Busted.” _before_ being banned. Could be he found that out by attempting to log into a name that had _just_ been banned.

Anything is possible, I guess. If Pliny was QSS, and the mods knew it, why wait an hour and a half to ban QSS? Especially in light of this post by **tomndebb** , posted at 2:15?

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8298948&postcount=390](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8298948&postcount=390)

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-strunk-banned/393763/32 "2007-02-26T21:16:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]  
Anything is possible, I guess. If Pliny was QSS, and the mods knew it, why wait an hour and a half to ban QSS? Especially in light of this post by **tomndebb** , posted at 2:15?

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8298948&postcount=390](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8298948&postcount=390)  
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As I understand it, only an Admin can revoke posting priviledges. Might not have been any Admins around to pull the trigger when **tom~** posted that.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-strunk-banned/393763/33 "2007-02-26T21:17:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Squink]  
Still, **QSS** posted “Whoops! Busted.” _before_ being banned. Could be he found that out by attempting to log into a name that had _just_ been banned.  
[/QUOTE]

No.

He was busted because he accidentally referred to **Liberal** as **Libertarian** which was Lib’s former name here. Someone new would not have known about it.

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-strunk-banned/393763/34 "2007-02-26T21:17:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]  
Linky no worky.

Anything is possible, I guess. If Pliny was QSS, and the mods knew it, why wait an hour and a half to ban QSS? Especially in light of this post by **tomndebb** , posted at 2:15?

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8298948&postcount=390](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8298948&postcount=390)  
[/QUOTE]  
This is getting so confused. See, I think **Pliny** was banned for being **STRUNK** , not **QSS**. It wasn’t until after both **Pliny** and **Strunk** were banned that **QSS** posted his “admission of guilt” that you reported, and was subsequently also banned. No other poster has been banned today that I know of, so this led me to believe that I was right about:

1. **Strunk** and **QSS** being the same person

2. Both of them being **Pliny**

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-strunk-banned/393763/35 "2007-02-26T21:18:15Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Why was Strunk banned?

Bad grammar.

Would have to agree I’m pretty much shocked that **According to Pliny** was banned.

Ooooh, the drama!

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**Author:** ![mrklutz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ebca7d/32.png) [@mrklutz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrklutz)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-strunk-banned/393763/36 "2007-02-26T21:18:49Z")

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[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy]  
mopery, dopery, and multiboard jerkdom?  
[/QUOTE]

Dang, **ETF**. I think you’ve been composing poetry too long around here. Even when you’re writing prose, you nearly break out into dactylic meter.

Mopery, dopery, multiboard jerkdom…

Sounds like a great first line to me.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-strunk-banned/393763/37 "2007-02-26T21:21:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Sarahfeena]  
I am interested to know why **Eleusis** ’ Pit thread “To Liberal: I’m not pitting you…I’m just confused” was locked. Apparently, it was due to the investigation into **Quentin’s** identity, but he didn’t really have much to do with that thread, as I recall. I think it should be re-opened.  
[/QUOTE]  
That thread was closed because

1. already a trainwreck, the idea that we would go for an additional 12 pages arguing over whether **QSS** was a sock of **prr** or of someone else would have killed the last remaining hamster
2. we had just recently gotten some closure on some long-term board antipathies (“feuds” seeming to be a bit too strong a word, in context), and the idea of continuing the rancor with new insults seemed counterproductive.

I have already let the **Pit** Mods know of my action and have told them that I will not get my nose out of joint if they reverse it, so you are free to petition them to re-open that thread if you are desperate to continue it, although I would think that new threads on individual topics might be more appropriate.

(I am not involved in the actions regarding **Strunk** (who had no “final straw” since everything he did was trash) or **Pliny** , so can provide no further information on those topics.

[/explaining, not Moderating]

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-strunk-banned/393763/38 "2007-02-26T21:24:33Z")

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[QUOTE=tomndebb]  
That thread was closed because

1. already a trainwreck, the idea that we would go for an additional 12 pages arguing over whether **QSS** was a sock of **prr** or of someone else would have killed the last remaining hamster
2. we had just recently gotten some closure on some long-term board antipathies (“feuds” seeming to be a bit too strong a word, in context), and the idea of continuing the rancor with new insults seemed counterproductive.

I have already let the **Pit** Mods know of my action and have told them that I will not get my nose out of joint if they reverse it, so you are free to petition them to re-open that thread if you are desperate to continue it, although I would think that new threads on individual topics might be more appropriate.  
[/QUOTE]  
No, that explanation seems perfectly reasonable and logical to me…just didn’t get what one had to do with the other.

> [@](#):
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> (I am not involved in the actions regarding **Strunk** (who had no “final straw” since everything he did was trash) or **Pliny** , so can provide no further information on those topics.
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> [/explaining, not Moderating]

Also a fair point…I didn’t expect anyone to fill us in on the “whole truth,” I was just speculating.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-strunk-banned/393763/39 "2007-02-26T21:24:12Z")

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And just to frustrate everyone further: the staff generally chooses to NOT discuss the ways in which evildoers are caught, so speculate to your hearts’ content, we will probably not validate your speculations.

Sorry.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-strunk-banned/393763/40 "2007-02-26T21:26:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
As I understand it, only an Admin can revoke posting priviledges. Might not have been any Admins around to pull the trigger when **tom~** posted that.  
[/QUOTE]  
Poor word choice on my part. If whoever banned Pliny knew he was QSS, why not ban them both at the same time? I suppose that Pliny could have been banned for being Strunk, and that later it was found that he was QSS as well, as \*\*Sarahfeena \*\*suggests above. But **tom** ’s statement makes it seem like QSS was under suspicion separately. I merely speculate.

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