# Why was the Twickster ATMB thread closed? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [May 10, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543 "2012-05-10T19:42:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/181 "2012-05-14T19:25:09Z")
Sounds like a good GQ or IMHO thread. Knock yourself out. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/182 "2012-05-14T19:28:22Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > What issues? A bunch of the usuals have a hard-on about Twickster, and this is just another thread where they get to wave their pitchforks. I doubt few really care about any issues, what they really want is a Pit thread where they can throw proper insults at her, instead of thread after thread of veiled insults. But Ed says you can’t pit mods so instead we get this thread, again and again. While there are certainly some here that are taking another opportunity to complain about **Twickster** , it is not at all the case that everyone complaining here just has a beef with **Twickster** , or is just pulling out the pitchforks. Consider my own posts in this thread. In particular, address my own questions with regards to Twickster’s self-moderation and the appearance of impropriety factor, and the need for **visible** oversight. That question has not been addressed. Also, I disagree with **Tubadiva** ’s peremptory closing of the previous thread. Witness that my comments in this thread start with bringing up an issue I asked in the last thread within 5 posts of the closing. It sure would be nice for a mod or admin to acknowledge questions have been asked and let us know they are being looked into officially, and not let the thread fester and get stirred up further. > [@PlainJain](#): > > I wouldn’t be opposed to that but I don’t know that it’s needed. Why not just let posters say they don’t like her moderation in this forum? That way people can express their feelings without all the name calling. I will propose again what I have said before: Allow board members to Pit Moderators for moderator actions, but do not expect anthing brought up in the Pit to be addressed, or even read by the mods. Allow civil complaints about moderation in ATMB, but any uncivil behavior gets moderator oversight (preferably by someone other than the mod in question). You want to get the board admins to consider a change? Bring it up in ATMB, but treat it civilly. You want to bitch out a mod for snarking you in his actions, Pit said mod and have away. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > BTW, when did it become popular to call those who _dare_ support the moderators “ass-kissers”? That’s always been popular, just like it’s popular to call anyone who _dares_ to register a complaint against a Mod a “troublemaker”. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/183 "2012-05-14T19:37:56Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Sounds like a good GQ or IMHO thread. Knock yourself out. No-I’m pretty sure this has a lot to do with some poster’s attitudes in this thread and its predecessor. People who want something severe done _now_, in public where they can either loudly approve or disapprove, and damn those who dare to question them or get in the way of the venom. Sometimes it feels like a small but vociferous minority would gladly purchase tickets to participate in some of the more uncouth(shall we say) moderator criticism threads. Maybe unbridled attacks of the moderators _should_ be allowed in The BBQ Pit…but doesn’t mean some posters should get to pretend that they can do the same thing in ATMB in the meantime, in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/184 "2012-05-14T19:39:46Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > People who want something severe done _now_, in public where they can either loudly approve or disapprove, and damn those who dare to question them or get in the way of the venom. Sounds like a bunch of projection to me. Maybe a LiveJournal account would help you get all that angst out? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/185 "2012-05-14T19:41:34Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > That’s always been popular, just like it’s popular to call anyone who _dares_ to register a complaint against a Mod a “troublemaker”. I’ve never done that, as far as I can remember. Complaints should be allowed-it’s the nasty Pit-worthy attacks in this forum particularly I object to. ---
**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/186 "2012-05-14T19:44:00Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I’ve never done that, as far as I can remember. Complaints should be allowed-it’s the nasty Pit-worthy attacks in this forum particularly I object to. It’s taking longer than we thought. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/187 "2012-05-14T19:52:39Z")
> [@Garfield226](#): > > It’s taking longer than we thought. Pray tell-what particular facts am I ignorant of? ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/188 "2012-05-14T20:03:53Z")
If you’re going to bash one another, take it to the Pit. It’s not appropriate for ATMB. If this continues the thread will be closed. Again, if you have issue with another poster, there’s other places to air that out, not About This Message Board. I closed the last thread because I thought the OP had finished with it. She might have been through with it but apparently not all shared that notion. I regret that I closed it. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/189 "2012-05-14T20:16:03Z")
> [@TubaDiva](#): > > I closed the last thread because I thought the OP had finished with it. What on earth, apart from wishful thinking, would give you that idea? The last post made by the OP in that thread included the following line: > [@](#): > > I agree with the forced apology issue, and like I said (in both posts) I would appreciate it if it was not an antipology. I am aware I piss people off, but to jump in like that and make a personal attack was not ok, and not in that setting. She’s saying that she doesn’t want an “antipology”; she wants a real one; she’s also (and still) saying that she thought **twickster** ’s personal attack was not OK. Whether you agree with her position on this issue or not, i’m not sure how you can read that post and think that she “had finished with it.” Should she make a new post every two hours, demanding a response from the mods? That generally doesn’t go over very well around here. By your definition, all someone has to do in order to be “finished with” an ATMB thread is to actually sit back patiently and wait for a moderator response. Of course, by that standard, the thread will probably sink to oblivion all by itself anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/190 "2012-05-14T20:20:13Z")
> [@TubaDiva](#): > > I closed the last thread because I thought the OP had finished with it. She might have been through with it but apparently not all shared that notion. I regret that I closed it. We’re very glad you took the time out to finally address the OP’s question, 188 posts later. Can we expect similar response times for you to get around to actually answering the other questions addressed to the administration in this thread, would it just be more practical to outsource the complaint department to India, or does coating it even that thin of a veneer seem like too much work and it’d be best to just sweep this all under that rug over there? ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/191 "2012-05-14T21:03:12Z")
This crap is at 4 pages! Being a mod on this board has got to be one of the most thankless tasks on the planet. You should be grateful she (or any mod) deigns to spend the time wading through the shitstorm of delicate egos and adult tantrums they have to deal with. If you get a mod beat down (and I’ve had a few) take your whipping and move on, don’t stand there howling and complaining and smearing snot all over your shirt like a tard. It’s only a message board. It doesn’t clothe you or feed you, do your dishes or mow your lawn. If you hate the modding that much get another board. ---
**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/192 "2012-05-14T21:04:04Z")
Helpful post is helpful. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/193 "2012-05-14T21:12:18Z")
> [@astro](#): > > Being a mod on this board has got to be one of the most thankless tasks on the planet. It’s also a wholly voluntary one. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/194 "2012-05-14T21:15:20Z")
Ever been a Pariah? I have. It’s not fun. Please stop this shit. We’re better than this. If y’all had said all this shit about me, I’d be dead already. Even after what I wrote up there and **Twicks** and I made our peace. Ease up, okay? Time to move on. Quasimodem ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/195 "2012-05-14T21:46:30Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I’ve never done that, as far as I can remember. I didn’t mean to imply that you had. I was showing the flipside. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Ever been a Pariah? I have. It’s not fun. > > Please stop this shit. We’re better than this. To me, the issue is not so much about **Twickster** , it is about transparency and evenhandedness in moderation of this board. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/196 "2012-05-14T21:54:34Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Please stop this shit. Didn’t you say you were done in this thread like two pages ago? Take your own advice. The reason this thread is 4 pages long is because moderation has waited four days (and counting) to provide a response. It could have been just 4 posts instead of 4 pages if Tuba had simply explained why she closed the first thread. (Note to Tuba - just because you’ve answered the OP in this thread means this thread should be closed as well - unless you want to open up the first thread and let twickster finally address the gathered throngs). ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/197 "2012-05-14T22:05:33Z")
> [@TubaDiva](#): > > If you’re going to bash one another, take it to the Pit. It’s not appropriate for ATMB. > > If this continues the thread will be closed. …which, hey, worked so well with all the other ATMB threads that have been slapped shut because people with the power to close them didn’t like what they were hearing. That’ll do wonders to actually resolve the issue. Now that you’ve made your “no bashing”/disagreeing with one another ruling\*, how about enforcing it with warnings rather than let people who threadshit determine whether the thread stay open or not? \*and…how is that determined anyway? I haven’t seen any mod-notes or warnings for Astro’s claim (one hour after your mod note) that people who disagree with him have “delicate egos and adult tantrums.” comment. Is that on the “not bashing” side of the line? ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/198 "2012-05-14T22:20:14Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Didn’t you say you were done in this thread like two pages ago? Take your own advice. > > The reason this thread is 4 pages long is because moderation has waited four days (and counting) to provide a response. It could have been just 4 posts instead of 4 pages if Tuba had simply explained why she closed the first thread. (Note to Tuba - just because you’ve answered the OP in this thread means this thread should be closed as well - unless you want to open up the first thread and let twickster finally address the gathered throngs). I’m responding because I’m getting e-mails about my position and who I am and why I care! Q ---
**Author:** ![grantham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9d8465/32.png) [@grantham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grantham)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/199 "2012-05-14T22:48:40Z")
He’s taking up for his honey Tuba ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2012, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/200 "2012-05-14T23:28:44Z")
> [@grantham](#): > > He’s taking up for his honey Tuba Check your mails, you inbred piece of shit, and don’t you EVER insinuate there was anything untoward about my friendships with anyone here! Wanna fuck with me, **Grantdam**? Well, let’s let it go, then. Anytime, anywhere, germ! Bill [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543.md?page=11)