# Why was the Twickster ATMB thread closed?

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**Created:** [May 10, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543 "2012-05-10T19:42:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![living\_in\_hell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@living\_in\_hell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/living_in_hell)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/21 "2012-05-11T00:16:21Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> I had a huge “meltdown” here several years ago, and all the mods were in on it, including **Twicks**. I have had several “mini-melts” (Hey, I coined a new \*\* Dope\*\* term!;)) since then, and she was in on those as well.
> 
> **Twicks** isn’t only a mod, she’s a member here, and she should be allowed her mistakes, as I have been kindly allowed mine.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Q

I forgot about your hostility, and you apparently forgot about the fact my enthusiasm gets me carried away sometimes.

Your asinine reply to my pm “What about it?” And you wrote that back to me in a pm!!!

Want me to show it???

This ought to carry with it some kind of censure, because you could have said in private what you said in public just now. You were just waiting to pounce, weren’t you?

Give it up. You have no compassion and you have no soul.

Just give it up and leave.

I am sorry to be so strong in my words, but you were a bitch asking me that, and then taking the whole fucking thing public.

Hang your head, because you should be goddamned ashamed of yourself.

**I’ve tried to be your friend, but you oppose any kind of “reach-out” people try for.**

Hang your head and just walk out of here, because you are totally useless to any of us.

Explain to me why you would imply I may be overreacting and/or why you were in the wrong? This sounds pretty consistent with my experience…which is more concerning given that I have been expected to learn the (inconsistent) rules in less than 7 weeks and this was how many years ago?

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**Author:** ![living\_in\_hell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@living\_in\_hell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/living_in_hell)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/22 "2012-05-11T00:23:07Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> I am just amused that **silenus** in post 16 was allowed to call the OP a troll. Oh I know he didn’t use the letters “t”, “r”, “o” or “l” but I’ve seen other posters given a mod note for doing the same thing. For insulting others in a tip-toey kind of way.
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> **silenus:**  
> I reported it because I’ve seen others get mod-noted before for doing the same thing. **Tuba Diva** posted after I reported it and then at least four hours later after I reported it she closed the thread. So in conclusion I now think **silenus** is a (descriptive phrase deleted) that should go (descriptive phrase deleted) and also (descriptive phrase deleted) and I would not be unhappy if (descriptive thread deleted).
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> Also (descriptive phrase deleted).

[I've been warned for accusing another of trolling. - About This Message Board - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=650592) 😕

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/23 "2012-05-11T00:25:57Z")

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> [@living\_in\_hell](#):
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> I forgot about your hostility, and you apparently forgot about the fact my enthusiasm gets me carried away sometimes.
> 
> Your asinine reply to my pm “What about it?” And you wrote that back to me in a pm!!!
> 
> Want me to show it???
> 
> This ought to carry with it some kind of censure, because you could have said in private what you said in public just now. You were just waiting to pounce, weren’t you?
> 
> Give it up. You have no compassion and you have no soul.
> 
> Just give it up and leave.
> 
> I am sorry to be so strong in my words, but you were a bitch asking me that, and then taking the whole fucking thing public.
> 
> Hang your head, because you should be goddamned ashamed of yourself.
> 
> **I’ve tried to be your friend, but you oppose any kind of “reach-out” people try for.**
> 
> Hang your head and just walk out of here, because you are totally useless to any of us.
> 
> Explain to me why you would imply I may be overreacting and/or why you were in the wrong? This sounds pretty consistent with my experience…which is more concerning given that I have been expected to learn the (inconsistent) rules in less than 7 weeks and this was how many years ago?

What the hell are you talking about?

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**Author:** ![living\_in\_hell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@living\_in\_hell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/living_in_hell)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/24 "2012-05-11T00:27:12Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> What the hell are you talking about?

I believe that this is the “mini meltdown” to which Q was referring.

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/25 "2012-05-11T00:27:26Z")

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What?

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/26 "2012-05-11T00:31:20Z")

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> [@living\_in\_hell](#):
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> I forgot about your hostility, and you apparently forgot about the fact my enthusiasm gets me carried away sometimes.
> 
> Your asinine reply to my pm “What about it?” And you wrote that back to me in a pm!!!
> 
> Want me to show it???
> 
> This ought to carry with it some kind of censure, because you could have said in private what you said in public just now. You were just waiting to pounce, weren’t you?
> 
> Give it up. You have no compassion and you have no soul.
> 
> Just give it up and leave.
> 
> I am sorry to be so strong in my words, but you were a bitch asking me that, and then taking the whole fucking thing public.
> 
> Hang your head, because you should be goddamned ashamed of yourself.
> 
> **I’ve tried to be your friend, but you oppose any kind of “reach-out” people try for.**
> 
> Hang your head and just walk out of here, because you are totally useless to any of us.
> 
> Explain to me why you would imply I may be overreacting and/or why you were in the wrong? This sounds pretty consistent with my experience…which is more concerning given that I have been expected to learn the (inconsistent) rules in less than 7 weeks and this was how many years ago?

Wow. Talk about your meltdown. I sense hostility here, but it’s not coming from Bill.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/27 "2012-05-11T00:32:44Z")

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> [@living\_in\_hell](#):
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> I believe that this is the “mini meltdown” to which Q was referring.

And you posted it, why? You trying to hurt Quasi or score some points or something?

Again, what the hell?

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**Author:** ![chacoguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@chacoguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chacoguy)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/28 "2012-05-11T00:36:38Z")

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> [@raftpeople](#):
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> what?

big red letters, damnit!!!1!!

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**Author:** ![living\_in\_hell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@living\_in\_hell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/living_in_hell)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/29 "2012-05-11T00:39:02Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Wow. Talk about your meltdown. I sense hostility here, but it’s not coming from Bill.

I am sorry if that post upset you. (validating, ain’t it?)

I was pointing out that he of all people should understand how it feels to suffer the wrath of the Twackster. Additionally, that her behavior is clearly an established pattern, with not much evidence of change. Furthermore, my inner shrink (hate that word) thinks that it’s another conform or die message. But then again, what do I know? :rolleyes:

Actually, maybe I am more perceptive than I thought…I seem to have figured out the Twack pdq. 🆒

Ok, I’m not jiving with all this negativity. I’m off like a prom dress except mine because my date was gay. True story. 🙂

ETA meltdown? hostile? Au contraire mes freres. The only thing melting up in here is my ice cream.

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**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/30 "2012-05-11T00:39:31Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> And you posted it, why? You trying to hurt Quasi or score some points or something?
> 
> Again, what the hell?

I do believe she’s not trying to hurt Quasi, she’s trying to bring it up as an example of Twickster’s foul attitude and moderational ineptitude at other times.

Of which this is not a valid example. This rant was a paranoid delusional meltdown, not Twickster actually having done anything wrong.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/31 "2012-05-11T00:40:32Z")

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> [@Sierra\_Indigo](#):
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> I do believe she’s not trying to hurt Quasi, she’s trying to bring it up as an example of Twickster’s foul attitude and moderational ineptitude at other times.
> 
> Of which this is not a valid example. This was a paranoid delusional meltdown, not Twickster actually having done anything wrong.

Right- why I asked if she’s trying to hurt him. It was a truly unfortunate episode brought on by his Alzheimer’s and he doesn’t need to have it pushed in his face to bolster someone else’s argument.

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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/32 "2012-05-11T00:40:41Z")

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> [@chacoguy](#):
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> big red letters, damnit!!!1!!

Oh. Ok. That kind of makes sense now, thanks.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/33 "2012-05-11T00:41:06Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Again, what the hell?

Shhhhh! Act II is starting.

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**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/34 "2012-05-11T00:42:01Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
>
> Right- why I asked if she’s trying to hurt him. It was a truly unfortunate episode brought on by his Alzheimer’s and he doesn’t need to have it pushed in his face to bolster someone else’s argument.

If she really is honestly a new poster as she claims to be, it’s possible she found the rant and went “Ah ha!” without following on the thread where it was discussed and dissected to pieces. Stupid, not malicious.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/35 "2012-05-11T00:42:49Z")

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> [@living\_in\_hell](#):
>
> I forgot about your hostility, and you apparently forgot about the fact my enthusiasm gets me carried away sometimes.
> 
> Your asinine reply to my pm “What about it?” And you wrote that back to me in a pm!!!
> 
> Want me to show it???
> 
> This ought to carry with it some kind of censure, because you could have said in private what you said in public just now. You were just waiting to pounce, weren’t you?
> 
> Give it up. You have no compassion and you have no soul.
> 
> Just give it up and leave.
> 
> I am sorry to be so strong in my words, but you were a bitch asking me that, and then taking the whole fucking thing public.
> 
> Hang your head, because you should be goddamned ashamed of yourself.
> 
> **I’ve tried to be your friend, but you oppose any kind of “reach-out” people try for.**
> 
> Hang your head and just walk out of here, because you are totally useless to any of us.

OK. Maybe you wern’t looking for a democracy. :eek:

Analysis, three doors down on the right.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/36 "2012-05-11T00:42:52Z")

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The unfortunate thing is that there some validity to her complaint but she’s being so smug and obnoxious about and for someone so new sure is carrying an awfully big grudge..

> [@Sierra\_Indigo](#):
>
> If she really is honestly a new poster as she claims to be, it’s possible she found the rant and went “Ah ha!” without following on the thread where it was discussed and dissected to pieces. Stupid, not malicious.

Good point, fair enough. Wonder if she’ll apologize once she realizes how unfortunate this was…

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/37 "2012-05-11T00:44:59Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Right- why I asked if she’s trying to hurt him. It was a truly unfortunate episode brought on by his Alzheimer’s and he doesn’t need to have it pushed in his face to bolster someone else’s argument.

That makes sense now. **living\_in\_hell** , that was very definitely lacking in class to throw that back up. You may be just paranoid, now, but it doesn’t help to give the mods ammunition to actually do something to you.

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**Author:** ![living\_in\_hell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@living\_in\_hell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/living_in_hell)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/38 "2012-05-11T00:47:11Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Right- why I asked if she’s trying to hurt him. It was a truly unfortunate episode brought on by his Alzheimer’s and he doesn’t need to have it pushed in his face to bolster someone else’s argument.

I did not know any of this and would not have referenced this post had I known. Believe me there were many from which to choose. :rolleyes:

B: In the spirit of practicing what I preach, I apologize for using this post to support my case (a SD survival strategy–cite your argument). Additionally, I was not intending to be hostile nor aggressive, but rather trying to highlight our similarities. Again, I am sorry. I could have handled this better and will attempt to be more sensitive in the future.

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**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/39 "2012-05-11T00:49:36Z")

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You didn’t have to quote the post in its entirity, with red highlighting. You could have simply pointed out what you felt the post implied about Twickster and her moderating, without dragging the whole thing up again.

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**Author:** ![living\_in\_hell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@living\_in\_hell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/living_in_hell)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/40 "2012-05-11T00:51:26Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> The unfortunate thing is that there some validity to her complaint but she’s being so smug and obnoxious about and for someone so new sure is carrying an awfully big grudge..
> 
> Good point, fair enough. Wonder if she’ll apologize once she realizes how unfortunate this was…

Absolutely. I have no problem owning my behaviors. In fact I was about to leave this thread before I received this info as I didn’t even like the way I was feeling without that knowledge…as for “the grudge”? If this interaction has taught me anything it’s about the power of not having all the information about why someone seems the way they seem…and without hijacking, please be aware that there may be more to this story. That is all I am going to say about this. I said sorry, and said I would try to change in the future. That is all I can do.

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