# Why was the Twickster ATMB thread closed?

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**Created:** [May 10, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543 "2012-05-10T19:42:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Molotok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Molotok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Molotok)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/121 "2012-05-12T07:30:57Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> If a statement is twattish wouldn’t have to made by a twat, or at the very least, someone behaving twatty?
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> If you interchange twat with cunt (and they are interchangeable) you’d end up with cunt, cunty or cuntish. I don’t think you could get away with any of it outside the Pit, where you can call people twats but not cunts. A cunty, twattish rule, imho.
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> Twickster, if you’re out there, why not put the whole thing to bed? Even a “fuck y’all, kiss my shiny mod ass” would be better than just ignoring the whole goddamn mess.

Twatty? Would it not be twattily?

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**Author:** ![srzss05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@srzss05](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/srzss05)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/122 "2012-05-12T12:21:27Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Twickster, if you’re out there, why not put the whole thing to bed? Even a “fuck y’all, kiss my shiny mod ass” would be better than just ignoring the whole goddamn mess.

The other thread was closed without explanation, Perhaps they think this one will die on its own.

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/123 "2012-05-12T12:28:21Z")

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Exactly what is **Twickster** supposed to say?

Firstly, it was Tuba who closed the other thread, so Twickster has nothing to answer for there.

Didn’t twickster admit she made an error in her choice of words in the thread under discussion? I don’t know if sackcloth and ashes and wearing a hair shirt are called for.

Has LIH been sighted since the pit thread about her started?

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**Author:** ![Enola\_Gay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3ab097/32.png) [@Enola\_Gay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enola_Gay)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/124 "2012-05-12T20:35:11Z")

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Twickster doesn’t need to _say_ anything, it is actions that people are looking for. I think she should organize a big, sincere Group Hug and include anyone whose tender feelings have been hurt. Actions speak louder than words.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/125 "2012-05-12T22:42:22Z")

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> [@srzss05](#):
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> The other thread was closed without explanation, Perhaps they think this one will die on its own.

From your lips to the ears of— _deity of your choice_.

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**Author:** ![srzss05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@srzss05](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/srzss05)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/126 "2012-05-12T23:01:43Z")

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> [@samclem](#):
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> From your lips to the ears of— _deity of your choice_.

I was only half joking. But if people (even mods) keep posting in this thread it won’t happen.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/127 "2012-05-12T23:49:33Z")

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The apology, which is unnecessary imo, is besides the point.

Why even have a forum that allows questions about the moderation? Several mods and an admin have posted in these two theads _and not one of them has addressed any of the issues that have been raised._ Why even bother when the feedback consists of nothing but retarded wisecracks? Get Ed to make a new sticky: Fuck Off and Don’t Ask Questions.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/128 "2012-05-13T00:10:34Z")

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The mods probably feel, correctly, that the “issue” **has** been dealt with. The rest is just the yammering of the usual.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/129 "2012-05-13T00:21:47Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> The mods probably feel, correctly, that the “issue” **has** been dealt with. The rest is just the yammering of the usual.

Makes sense. Typing “It’s been dealt with” is a Herculean task. I had to slay a lion and capture a bull just to make this one little post.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/130 "2012-05-13T01:28:46Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> Additionally, which one of you wants to step up and take on this shitty job?

A fair number of those of us who are complaining HAVE stepped up and taken on the shitty job of moderator, just not here. I don’t get these kind of complaints on the boards that _I_ administer.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/131 "2012-05-13T02:10:32Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Makes sense. Typing “It’s been dealt with” is a Herculean task. I had to slay a lion and capture a bull just to make this one little post.

See? Easy peasy. You’re lucky you didn’t want to change your username or something like that. Do you have any idea how hard it is to find a virgin cockatrice?

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/132 "2012-05-13T10:08:06Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Several mods and an admin have posted in these two theads _and not one of them has addressed any of the issues that have been raised._

What issues? A bunch of the usuals have a hard-on about Twickster, and this is just another thread where they get to wave their pitchforks. I doubt few really care about any issues, what they really want is a Pit thread where they can throw proper insults at her, instead of thread after thread of veiled insults. But Ed says you can’t pit mods so instead we get this thread, again and again.

Frankly this is a non-issue. If some other mod had slipped up and then gave themself a mod note they would be a board legend.

“Do you remember that time the mod gave themselves a warning? That has hilarious haha lol”

But it was Twickster so instead its another sign of the board going to hell or something. Meh, I’m not surprised the admins haven’t bothered addressing it.

(Though I’m probably just a skeevy mod defender, so what do I know eh?)

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/133 "2012-05-13T14:46:58Z")

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I agree with 99% of what Buckety Buck says, but I still think that one of the Mods who have posted here had come out and said “This is just a pile on of Twicks- there is nothing in it”, it may have helped.

It also may have inflamed the thread, but that seems to have happened anyway.

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**Author:** ![srzss05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@srzss05](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/srzss05)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/134 "2012-05-13T15:12:44Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> I agree with 99% of what Buckety Buck says, but I still think that one of the Mods who have posted here had come out and said “This is just a pile on of Twicks- there is nothing in it”, it may have helped.
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> It also may have inflamed the thread, but that seems to have happened anyway.

I agree 99% as well (but for different reasons, as I feel it really doesn’t matter in the long run as nothing will have changed), but saying the matter is considered closed rather than making lame jokes and closing the first thread would have probably been a better way to do it.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/135 "2012-05-13T15:47:50Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> What issues? A bunch of the usuals have a hard-on about Twickster, and this is just another thread where they get to wave their pitchforks. I doubt few really care about any issues, what they really want is a Pit thread where they can throw proper insults at her, instead of thread after thread of veiled insults. But Ed says you can’t pit mods so instead we get this thread, again and again.
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> Frankly this is a non-issue. If some other mod had slipped up and then gave themself a mod note they would be a board legend.
> 
> “Do you remember that time the mod gave themselves a warning? That has hilarious haha lol”
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> But it was Twickster so instead its another sign of the board going to hell or something. Meh, I’m not surprised the admins haven’t bothered addressing it.

And why do you think that is? How come every other thread about other mods actions doesn’t turn into pile-ons against them?

Twix broke the rules. And once again we get some flip wave-away. What’s so bad about expressing our displeasure and why does that equal “pitchfork waving”?  
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**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/136 "2012-05-13T17:20:38Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> If some other mod had slipped up and then gave themself a mod note they would be a board legend.
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> “Do you remember that time the mod gave themselves a warning? That has hilarious haha lol”
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> But it was Twickster so instead its another sign of the board going to hell or something.

Independent of whether I agree with your post or not, this portion is a good observation about human nature.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/137 "2012-05-13T17:25:52Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> But Ed says you can’t pit mods so instead we get this thread, again and again.

Actually, you can pit mods for things that they do as regular posters. So if someone wanted to pit **twickster** for calling someone else a twat in MPSIMS, they could do it without a problem.

> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> Frankly this is a non-issue. If some other mod had slipped up and then gave themself a mod note they would be a board legend.
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> “Do you remember that time the mod gave themselves a warning? That has hilarious haha lol”
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> But it was Twickster so instead its another sign of the board going to hell or something. Meh, I’m not surprised the admins haven’t bothered addressing it.

Well, it certainly wouldn’t have been a thread about moderation without you dropping in to push your nose further up their arses.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/138 "2012-05-13T17:34:00Z")

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> [@samclem](#):
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> From your lips to the ears of— _deity of your choice_.

Bullshit like this doesn’t help, sam. A dismissal like yours doesn’t really come across as helpful, coming from a moderator. If you don’t think this issue has any merit, could you at least have the balls to come out and say it, rather than slip in passive-aggressive comments like this? I took your suggestion on page two to contact Ed and Dex directly - Dex responded that it’s being looked into, but that schedules are currently busy this weekend. I’m sure you were aware of that - so why are you trying to sweep it under the rug?

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**Author:** ![srzss05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@srzss05](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/srzss05)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/139 "2012-05-13T19:29:53Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Bullshit like this doesn’t help, sam. A dismissal like yours doesn’t really come across as helpful, coming from a moderator. If you don’t think this issue has any merit, could you at least have the balls to come out and say it, rather than slip in passive-aggressive comments like this?

I was tempted to say something similar to this, but decided the low-key version was better. I was hoping he would get the point my way.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2012, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/why-was-the-twickster-atmb-thread-closed/621543/140 "2012-05-13T19:42:14Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Bullshit like this doesn’t help, sam. A dismissal like yours doesn’t really come across as helpful, coming from a moderator. If you don’t think this issue has any merit, could you at least have the balls to come out and say it, rather than slip in passive-aggressive comments like this? I took your suggestion on page two to contact Ed and Dex directly - Dex responded that it’s being looked into, but that schedules are currently busy this weekend. I’m sure you were aware of that - so why are you trying to sweep it under the rug?

> [@srzss05](#):
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> I was tempted to say something similar to this, but decided the low-key version was better. I was hoping he would get the point my way.

I felt that any answer representing the point of view of the management of the SDMB should come from an Administrator, not a moderator. Therefore I didn’t answer the OP. I’m really not trying to sweep it under the rug. I have no power to do that. Glad that at least you took my suggestion. But, as it happens, I was NOT aware of Dex’s reply to you. I am aware that weekends are pretty sketchy times to try to get admins/mods on here. Sorry for making comments that didn’t help. Seriously.

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